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Libluini posted:Don't worry, I've met worse people. At one point I overheard a girl in a bookshop saying she can't read books with male protagonists because she can't identify with them and my reaction was like this: Related, while I've only intermittently engaged with online forums on Bakker's work, I don't every recall seeing anyone speculate on how the Dunyain treat their own women. How do hyper-rational products of a thousands of years eugenics campaign treat the (still?) weaker sex? Most of me thinks they'd consider them inferiors specialized for breeding, as that would be most consistent with everything else Bakker writes about women in this world, but maybe I'm wrong, I can imagine a plausible case for going more towards equal partners in the search for truth and development of better descendants. It's unfortunate that recent developments make me doubt we'll ever get a chance to learn what the deal was.
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Libluini posted:Hilariously, this has the opposite effect on me. It managed to make the Consult look stupid in addition to being sinister. Existential dread just isn't something I can emotionally understand. Well I mean I do know that people fear that kind of stuff, it just feels silly to me. It's not "existential dread" in our sense, it's absolute knowledge that hell is real, they will be punished, and they have a way to avoid it and do what they want without consequence. You can analogize it to some men in black coming to hook electrodes up to your nuts, forever, unless you kill enough people for their organization to collapse.
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Libluini posted:That analogy would be wrong, though. The people they're killing and planning to kill are just unwittingly helping the MIB in this example. That makes them evil, but quite rational. You said they were stupid. There's nothing stupid about avoiding pain. If they felt their punishment was justified they wouldn't behave that way in the first place.
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Is the subject of the third trilogy really a secret? Given that everything in the 2nd Apocalypse is a distorted funhouse version of the first one it's clearly going to be about some southern leader (probably Kelmomas) defeating the No God. Who may or may not be Kelhus in some form. Achamian continues his Seswatha role to the bitter end.
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