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Hi! I just got to the part where Kellhaus recognizes that Skeos doesn't really have a face. This matches nicely with the other dudes face unfolding like esmenets legs earlier. Shits creepy and amazing. I loving love this book especially once it explained the dunyain a bit more.
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Jul 15, 2016 13:18
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I always assumed it was just the north star since the whole thing is set to remind us of our own world. But I'm still only halfway through the third book. Bakker is loving awesome and Kellhus is just making up every single thing he says. When he goes slack and grabs Akka by the throat, that's the real Kellhus.
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Aug 19, 2016 14:43
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Gazaar posted:Esmenet chapters are the True Slog of Slogs. When I re-read I'm going to skip THE gently caress out of those. Counterpoint, Kelmomas is loving awesome.
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Sep 1, 2016 15:27
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I just got to the part with Proyo and Big K... 
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Sep 9, 2016 15:06
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Libluini posted:To be honest, that stuff doesn't even face me anymore, I just roll my eyes, suppress my disgust, and read on. It's basically a Bakkerism at this point. It just seemed to come up so randomly. I love how brutally graphic every description is though.
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Sep 9, 2016 15:26
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Boing posted:I suspect that what Bakker is trying to hammer home is that the Dunyain simply aren't human anymore. They can barely hybridise with regular humans, they've developed some much greater sexual dimorphism, they're wired in completely different ways. The unrealistic part of that is that it's only been 2000 years of breeding and actual speciation probably takes much longer (without genetic engineering or some Earwean Lamarck crap). We've bred some pretty weird fuckin dogs over the course of human civilisation but I think they're still one species, even if the logistics of a chihuahua loving a great dane are prohibitive. And then there's the no god, which just wants an afterllife for itself!
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Jan 23, 2017 22:56
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Dunyain should have huge belly buttons.
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Jan 24, 2017 14:17
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:"Why is this person talking about Bakker's novels in the Bakker thread? I just don't understand." You aren't talking about his novels, you are obsessing about a single specific aspect of those novels that you are hung up on. Boing posted:Have you considered that medium and message can interact to produce an experience that is greater than the sum of its parts? Or are you ideologically committed to regurgitating inane literary dogma at every turn? This can't be true because he doesn't like the writing. QED I preordered this why can't I read it yet. 
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Jul 24, 2017 16:24
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Do you mean the writing? If so, lol Your gimmick is tired. There is more to works than just prose. Sorry you can't enjoy those bits, but the rest of us are gonna keep doing it.
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Jul 24, 2017 17:08
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:You seem to subscribe to the naive belief that the medium is basically just a neutral container for the message ("there is more to works than just prose"). Nah. 
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Jul 24, 2017 17:49
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BOTL's logic seems to end in the conclusion that a book with worse prose can never be better than a book with better prose no matter what. This is obviously absurd.Black Leaf posted:Why are quoting webcomics to make your point? Why are you asking stupid questions?
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Jul 24, 2017 20:28
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Also notice your concession that Bakker doesn't write well I actually didn't concede that, my point was that there are things about books that can make them better/worse other than your opinion of the writing. But since you can't stop just making poo poo up, away you go.
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Jul 24, 2017 20:53
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:McLuhan offers a very simple and useful principle for judging media - focus on what the form is doing and saying. Man this is real interesting. You should make a thread about it and post there. ""The medium is the message" is a phrase coined by Marshall McLuhan meaning that the form of a medium embeds itself in any message it would transmit or convey, creating a symbiotic relationship by which the medium influences how the message is perceived." Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Aug 1, 2017 |
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Aug 1, 2017 23:24
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Capitalism is stupid.
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Sep 1, 2017 01:10
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I just finished. It was pretty cool. I especially liked the emphasis on everyone is going to hell. What the gently caress is Shae tho? sounds familiar.
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Sep 1, 2017 14:11
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Shaeonanra, head of the consult. I think I was thinking of GRRMs whore character and then I kept trying to remember if Esmi had a friend or something. I enjoy these books but they can be hella confusing as far as what the gently caress with the Outside.
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Sep 1, 2017 15:08
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I hate his prose because it's bad, like a grimdark Guy Gavriel Kay. You talking about his prose is infinitely worse reading material than his prose.
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Sep 11, 2017 21:07
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I think we're both half right. He definitely takes control of the Chorae, it describes the chorae pinning the skinspies hands down like nails. Which makes even less sense. Kelmomas blundering in somehow knocks Ajokli out of Kelhus' body, leaving him vulnerable to the chorae. Less knocks out of and more who is actively running things. I think the idea of a possessed person being briefly reached is a pretty common trope for possession stories. Ajokli controls the Chorae, but is Kelhus touched by one at any point before that?
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