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Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


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"I watched TE to the very dumb and ridiculous end, this should be a breeze in comparison" "I'm gunna defect to East Germany for absolutely no real thought out reason" :psyduck:
Ok, guess I'll prepare for a hell of a ride, but at least the historical clothing will be cool, and maybe they'll be a subplot about the protag's Trabant breaking down.

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Silver2195 posted:

Haven't seen the episode yet, but defecting to crazy dictatorships out of misplaced idealism is something people who should know better occasionally do in real life.

Yeah, but this isn't a case of gently caress you dad, as a communist who believes capitalism is inherently exploitative it's more like Uhh, I want to make East German friends and get to know you Even the idiot US servicemen who defected to North Korea (thinking they'd just let them leave and get back to the US and somehow avoid desertion charges) weren't quite that dumb. I mean FFS, the girl is even :downs: enough to talk aboutGerman Reunification in public and doesn't understand the idea of Stasi informants I mean, I'm sure it's more a case of being an audience stand in so they could provide exposition, but I feel like this poo poo is gonna be ham handed as all hell.

I'd much rather be seeing an exploration of how the East German leadership handling being cut off from their main USSR support and having to collaborate far more with NATO while still maintaining control. Although we probably know the answer is gonna be purges for everyone. A bit that made me sad though was the fact that apparently pilot suits have not evolved at all between the 1980s and the 2000s, it would have been pleasant to see a marked difference in design aesthetics, especially differing Warsaw Pact and NATO equipment :sigh:

Nine of Eight fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jan 12, 2016

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That's what I get for blanking out. Thanks.

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I was pretty pleased overall; the crew interacted pretty believably, the combat was top notch (as was the training session), and the fortress looks like it will make for a cool plot point in the following episodes.

I'm not sure where they are going with the Stasi letting the Hannibal unit get wiped out though, I feel like wasting state resources because you don't like one specific commander is wildly inefficient.

Funnier point, if you look at the scrolling articles that were censored, the "dissapeared" major general's name pops up once or twice without being blacked out. I guess censors in the Muv-Luv world are as incompent as they are IRL.

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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

Congratulations, you have solved the mystery of why the Stasi were bad.

I feel like there's much easier ways of pointing out the Stasi are evil though, just look at anything they did in real life.

For example, here's a somewhat more effective depiction of the Stasi being jerks (Amazing movie by the way)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu-NJA4Y1RI

Darth Walrus posted:

Also, to adopt a insane Stasi perspective, they're thinking long-term. If an elite unit has been compromised by a West German infiltrator, they need to obliterate it fast before the sedition spreads and cripples their war effort against the BETA. They're taking a significant loss now to avert a gigantic loss down the line.

So you dissappear the infltrator and very clearly suggest to the rest of the unit that you know exactly where they poop and how many times per day. I feel like killing off units whenever a single member is ideologically impure is a good way of running out of units.

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Maybe the whole thing is a long con and the MC is the real traitor.

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Gyra_Solune posted:

this week on muv luv:

:wtc:

And they were doing so good on not being poo poo.

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Well. If you just shut off your brain and ignore the fact that Theodor admits to banging his sister so he can hopefully control her this is actually a pretty good episode. It even involves alt universe Angela Merkel commanding a fortress!

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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

If only they didn't have that sideplot, if it was literally any other combination of characters it'd be mostly fine. :sigh:

I mean, I get what they were going for, it's East Germany and you gotta do hosed up poo poo to survive, but still :gonk:
That said, I laughed my rear end off when Theodor realised his hosed up plan to keep the unit safe didn't even work.

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Wark Say posted:

It's been a while, but didn't the same thing happened in Total Eclipse with Yui and Yuuya? And Yui still totally had the hots for her 'onii-chan'. Like this seems like a thing that comes with the territory. :suicide:

They were zero related at all and never met at any time in their childhood unless I had a cerebral aneurysm sometime while I was watching the show.

EDIT: Welp, I was wrong. Half-siblings.

Nine of Eight fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Feb 24, 2016

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I'm shocked to state that this week's episode was 100% not poo poo or gross. Hooray!

P.S. Would anyone be interested in a few effortposts on stuff that pops up in the show vs. their real world counterparts?

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Finally a 100% non-bad episode, including several moments that approached well done. I was convinced Anettad death flagged herself in that last fight, maybe next week instead

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Deutsche Democratik Republishe Effortpost: Fernsehturm Berlin
It's 1964. You are Walter Ulbricht, the chancellor of the GDR and you want to proclaim the power and modernity of your Soviet Puppet state. The years of rebuilding since 1945 have been pretty harsh, but now your state is beggining to prosper and has a reputation for high quality engineering and goods among the other Warsaw Pact states. But you'd really like it if you can advertise your power to those jerks in West Berlin, an enclave of capitalists and NATO forces in the heart of your State, just sitting there and occupying 3/4 of your capital city.

Meanwhile, a fancy rear end TV tower has been built in Stutgart, a wealthy city of West Germany. Can't be outdone. Hire the flower of German engineering and design something grandiose and amazing to outdo those stupid Westerners. A TV tower to rival the huge ones that the Soviets built in Moscow, Kiev and Riga. Heck, why not add a revolving restaurant and a visitor platform over a mirrored sphere. A true monument to German style Socialism.

Except that apparently your Engineers are encountering significant difficulties with the advanced design and the stresses it must handle. poo poo. Hire some neutral Swedish Engineering consultants to fix everything. They won't blab. Probably?

Ok. The tower is built and inaugurated. A glorious day in East Berlin. The sun decides to poke out from the usual gray sky and illuminate your monument to the commnon man.
Wait, why is the light causing a cross shaped aura around the ball? gently caress. Have the Stasi talk with those loving engineers, what did you mean no one expected this?

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