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Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

Citizen Tayne posted:

I have ~2850 MS DOS games here and they come out to about 8.7g all said.

yeah I've got ~150mb of atari 8-bit apps such as mac 65 and visicalc

# ? Feb 22, 2016 06:39

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 18:30

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmx84SkG0O4

# ? Feb 22, 2016 06:42

Slow-Scan Shep: Jul 11, 2001

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

rf is the most shameful video connection method, always replace it asap

# ? Feb 22, 2016 08:37

Panty Saluter: Jan 17, 2004; Making learning fun!

Digital cable boxes should have used clearqam output on rf so olds wouldnt be confused by a new connector

But ~*~MY DIGITAL RIGHTS MANAGEMENT~*~

# ? Feb 22, 2016 16:44

in a well actually: Jan 26, 2011; dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

craisins posted:

not exactly related, but my alma mater (UAlbany) has/had their own exchange 518-442-xxxx, and own zip code 12222

it was p cool

I got mail addressed to:
<name>
<quad name>
Albany, NY 12222

and the mail room found it and routed it to my mailbox. it was awesome

that's not even the best zip in albany (GE's 12345)

# ? Feb 22, 2016 16:50

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLTh4uVJduI

i am shamefully bumping my own post because nobody acknowledged the 1990s radness in this video

it is a rap/r&b combination celebrating HP UNIX workstations

i wonder what happened to the poor bastard in the zoot suit

# ? Feb 23, 2016 01:15

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i wonder what happened to the poor bastard in the zoot suit

same thing that happened to every other poor bastard in a zoot suit in the 90s

nothing

# ? Feb 23, 2016 01:17

SO DEMANDING: Dec 27, 2003

eschaton posted:

i figure others here may appreciate this

man everything to do with lisp machines is just so loving weird

apparently the dod is still paying to support symbolics stuff. i can only begin to imagine what for

# ? Feb 23, 2016 02:20

There Will Be Penalty: May 18, 2002; Makes a great pet!

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i am shamefully bumping my own post because nobody acknowledged the 1990s radness in this video

it is a rap/r&b combination celebrating HP UNIX workstations

i wonder what happened to the poor bastard in the zoot suit

i cut my teeth on hp-ux in the early 1990s at school so that was a good video and thank you for posting it

# ? Feb 23, 2016 02:34

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

SO DEMANDING posted:

man everything to do with lisp machines is just so loving weird

apparently the dod is still paying to support symbolics stuff. i can only begin to imagine what for

they probably have some piece of software they rely on that's extremely hard to port to any other environment

a port of a complex system that includes UI would probably have to go via a bunch of iterations:

ZetaLisp on Genera
→ ZetaLisp on OpenGenera
→ Common Lisp on OpenGenera with UI in Dynamic Windows
→ Common Lisp on OpenGenera with UI in CLIM
→ Common Lisp on UNIX with UI in CLIM

and involve significant manual changes at every stage

I hope the CL-HTTP dude who bought the Symbolics IP at probate actually does the work to open source what he can, or even just manages to issue a free "hobbyist license" instead of trying to milk the few people still interested for $3000 per seat

all Symbolics' patents are expired at this point, and their trade secrets (compiler technology, interface technology, microarchitecture, etc.) are so outdated as to be worthless, the only non-historical value is in maintenance contracts for those couple DoD sites

# ? Feb 23, 2016 03:04

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

eschaton posted:

I hope the CL-HTTP dude who bought the Symbolics IP at probate actually does the work to open source what he can, or even just manages to issue a free "hobbyist license" instead of trying to milk the few people still interested for $3000 per seat

didn't this guy die

# ? Feb 23, 2016 03:09

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

didn't this guy die

no, John C. Mallery (CL-HTTP) is rumored to have bought the Symbolics IP at probate when Andrew Topping, the scammer who claimed to own it, died

except supposedly Andrew Topping might not really have acquired it, or acquired it properly, or something so it's potentially in some sort of weird legal limbo

someone needs to buy the Lisp Machine, Inc. assets from the Canadian government, they were seized (after being reincarnated as GigaMos Systems) as a result of the Guy Montpetit scandal

# ? Feb 23, 2016 03:20

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

eschaton posted:

no, John C. Mallery (CL-HTTP) is rumored to have bought the Symbolics IP at probate when Andrew Topping, the scammer who claimed to own it, died

yeah, i thought Mallery was also dead

but i can't find an obit. so maybe not

# ? Feb 23, 2016 03:27

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i am shamefully bumping my own post because nobody acknowledged the 1990s radness in this video

it is a rap/r&b combination celebrating HP UNIX workstations

i wonder what happened to the poor bastard in the zoot suit

this commercial is ownage as hell

# ? Feb 23, 2016 03:44

SO DEMANDING: Dec 27, 2003

eschaton posted:

no, John C. Mallery (CL-HTTP) is rumored to have bought the Symbolics IP at probate when Andrew Topping, the scammer who claimed to own it, died

except supposedly Andrew Topping might not really have acquired it, or acquired it properly, or something so it's potentially in some sort of weird legal limbo

someone needs to buy the Lisp Machine, Inc. assets from the Canadian government, they were seized (after being reincarnated as GigaMos Systems) as a result of the Guy Montpetit scandal

this is seriously at least half of what makes lisp machine stuff so weird, the incredibly hosed up state of all the bits of IP from various companies involved

# ? Feb 23, 2016 03:59

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

SO DEMANDING posted:

this is seriously at least half of what makes lisp machine stuff so weird, the incredibly hosed up state of all the bits of IP from various companies involved

at it's peak, the lisp machine market was a few thousand units a year, and 99% of them sold to government institutions.

there were a grand total of four hardware vendors (xerox, TI, symbolics, lmi). the biggest lisp business unit was still smaller than a modestly successful internet startup.

it didn't take very much to make it all scatter to the wind

# ? Feb 23, 2016 04:03

A Pinball Wizard: Mar 23, 2005; I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands; College Slice

why was the govt so interested in them

# ? Feb 23, 2016 04:35

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

A Pinball Wizard posted:

why was the govt so interested in them

in the 1980s govt research labs had serious money to spend on anything they fuckin wanted

ai research was briefly the new cool thing, and lispMs were tightly associated with ai research. it was the "big data" of the 1980s. it didn't matter what your problem was, somehow "ai research" was gonna fix it

# ? Feb 23, 2016 04:37

atomicthumbs: Dec 26, 2010; We're in the business of extending man's senses.

eschaton posted:

they probably have some piece of software they rely on that's extremely hard to port to any other environment

a port of a complex system that includes UI would probably have to go via a bunch of iterations:

ZetaLisp on Genera
→ ZetaLisp on OpenGenera
→ Common Lisp on OpenGenera with UI in Dynamic Windows
→ Common Lisp on OpenGenera with UI in CLIM
→ Common Lisp on UNIX with UI in CLIM

and involve significant manual changes at every stage

I hope the CL-HTTP dude who bought the Symbolics IP at probate actually does the work to open source what he can, or even just manages to issue a free "hobbyist license" instead of trying to milk the few people still interested for $3000 per seat

all Symbolics' patents are expired at this point, and their trade secrets (compiler technology, interface technology, microarchitecture, etc.) are so outdated as to be worthless, the only non-historical value is in maintenance contracts for those couple DoD sites

remember how LISP was the AI language, and how the AI field died down and LISP machines died with it?

that was actually the DoD suppressing the technology and keeping it for themselves after the researchers invented the other kind of AI

all wars are run by a self-aware generalist expert system. that's how the US hasn't lost any wars since 1989

# ? Feb 23, 2016 12:24

atomicthumbs: Dec 26, 2010; We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

in the 1980s govt research labs had serious money to spend on anything they fuckin wanted

ai research was briefly the new cool thing, and lispMs were tightly associated with ai research. it was the "big data" of the 1980s. it didn't matter what your problem was, somehow "ai research" was gonna fix it

in more seriousness this is a good read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert_system

and this is a better one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter

# ? Feb 23, 2016 12:26

yellow borders: Jan 7, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ycx9hFGHog

:razz:

IT'S THE SAME DATA :iamafag:

# ? Feb 23, 2016 16:46

Pham Nuwen: Oct 30, 2010

found someone on Craigslist who has a trs-80 model 102 for sale. let's see if I can get it for a reasonable price, or if she goes on ebay, sees the dreamers asking $300, and gets stupid.

# ? Feb 23, 2016 17:50

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

Pham Nuwen posted:

found someone on Craigslist who has a trs-80 model 102 for sale. let's see if I can get it for a reasonable price, or if she goes on ebay, sees the dreamers asking $300, and gets stupid.

lmao why would you buy a TRS-80, they're the discarded used condoms of the computing world

# ? Feb 23, 2016 21:44

Pham Nuwen: Oct 30, 2010

Citizen Tayne posted:

lmao why would you buy a TRS-80, they're the discarded used condoms of the computing world

owns

# ? Feb 23, 2016 22:08

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

32k

# ? Feb 23, 2016 22:12

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

Pham Nuwen posted:

owns

It's bad.

# ? Feb 23, 2016 22:13

Olivil: Jul 15, 2010; Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

trs-80 lol

more like trash-80 amirite???

# ? Feb 23, 2016 22:23

Olivil: Jul 15, 2010; Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

apple ii lol

more like crapple ii amirite???

# ? Feb 23, 2016 22:23

Olivil: Jul 15, 2010; Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

commodore 64 lol

more like commiedore 64 amirite???

# ? Feb 23, 2016 22:24

Sweevo: Nov 8, 2007; i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster