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As much fun as Genghis Clarke is and hoping she commits more mass murder every season I hope they don't go balls out for it if/when they do. Then again Mt. Weather was done well so I have faith it won't literally be crazy ol' Clarke having to stop a war through literal M.A.D.
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muscles like this? posted:Bellamy's girlfriend is supposedly the girl they helped rescue from the cliff at the start of season 2. Also, I read that producers have confirmed that Wix, Raven's boyfriend from last season, will not be showing up. So that bit with Abbie was definitely writing him out completely. Also Miller being gay I totally glossed over and was perfectly fine with anyway how it was addressed anyway, as well as seeing some other familiar faces like Harper and that red-headed chick that took an arrow in the leg but followed the main crew around for like half of S1 back to Camp Jaha. I wish I knew her name. Sometimes I wish they could get like an extra episode and just have the background characters sometimes. Shimrra Jamaane posted:What happened?
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LOL if that's the case then Clarke is a genocidal Helen of Troy.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Why are they trying to get the missiles working again? Troposphere posted:of course bellamys gf existed only to die
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I think the Ark attack against Treekru will be interesting in terms of how Polis will react, maybe we'll see more of Indra and Lexa and Clarke but Pike is a bit one-note even if it is understandable and Bellamy's motivation is a bit rushed and cloudy even if that is the point. I get that Bellamy is fuming and hates himself but man he just needs like 5 seconds to clearheadedness to remember they're going to be shooting at Lincoln and Nico and Indra's people, not Ice Nation's.
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I feel like there was a missing episode. Like that or spend an extra episode about the Arkadia election to build up tension on who might win or if Pike might sweep it. At the same time, Pike and Farm Station desperately need(ed?) an episode for them like the tailies in Lost got and maybe even like 15 minutes more of the Ice Queen.
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WarLocke posted:I feel like if you are about to hold an election in which a grounder-hater might win, you might take the precaution of sending a runner out to the grounder army outside and say "Yeah, look, we've got some internal leadership poo poo going down, you guys might want to clear out to stay clear of it" especially if the guy who might become chancellor was just caught trying to sneak out and murder them.
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I think regardless it's still disappointing to me that they cut some corners in rushing to get there. They kinda still did it with Finn and Lexa peacing out during the Mt. Weather siege but the payoff they can usually deliver on, so I'm hoping they can do it again. But that doesn't mean I should forgive them or not really like them playing a bit fast and loose cause they need to rush through the plot.
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Feb 18, 2016 21:32
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esperterra posted:Yeah, it's not like the show has ever taken time with much of anything. It likes to chew through plot and while it can be a weakness at times, the speed at which the story moves is one of its biggest strengths as well. It's weird because last season I felt like they had a few of those in their larger order (e.g. the episode following the missile strike I think I'd a good example)
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TyrantWD posted:3 months of peace after being back stabbed and left to die, and after Treekru engaged in biological warfare against a group of kids. Let's not forget that during these 3 months of peace, the grounders killed 2/3rds of the Farm Station and put out a bounty on the person who destroyed their biggest enemy. Basically I don't see this ending without Pike's head on a (pun not intended) pike at the end of this. Well, I guess it really sounds like it's going to devolve into Lexa trying what Clarke suggests, the coalition revolts because of this, and now that Lexa maybe only has Treekru left Pike comes back in and massacres them all because he doesn't want to make peace with grounders anyway. Again, unless someone straight up assassinates Pike (Abby or Kane basically). Maybe throw in a few hilarious wrenches in the mix as Jaha loving  people into the City of Light.Kegslayer posted:Trailer spoilers
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In that case, poor Monty, when his mom is offered up to the grounders  At least Miller is on the right team.
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hope and vaseline posted:I'm shipping Miller/Lincoln Also I like how Octavia has pretty much buried the hatched re: the TonDC missile attack, meanwhile Bellamy is like "YOU TRIED TO KILL OCTAVIA" to Clarke even now. Meanwhile, Octavia doesn't agonize over any of that poo poo cause there's more important poo poo going down. Clarke and Octavia are awesome together, I just wanted to point that out. Not as potential scissor sisters or anything mind you, just two awesome kickass ladies doing what needs to get done.
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Might as well melt down most of what's left of the Ark, gonna need a lot of bullets.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Has Jaha always talked with some kind of lisp (or was my audio quality just poo poo)?
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Feb 25, 2016 19:20
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LOL all of a sudden Pike needs proof to arrest/assassinate Kane? C'mon Pike. Also RIP Monroe, how did she get roped into this stupid Pike poo poo when she and Harper and Lincoln basically stood up to Pike's first shooting spree squad 2 episodes ago?
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Feb 26, 2016 05:26
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Time to batten down the hatches for the next few weeks. I sincerely hope discussion about the episode is possible without accusations of FRIDGING and KILLING OFF THE GAYS.
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Man, the writer for tonight's episode (and co-EP of the show, Javier Grillo-Marxuach) is getting dog-piled on twitter but is kinda taking it in stride, even retweeting people telling him to basically go gently caress himself.Monicro posted:It's honestly a very fair complaint, but in it's context I think their hand was kinda forced and it was done well imo. As for killing off lgbtq+ characters, fair warning I am a cis/hetero male (my only concession is I'm not white), but again, her homosexuality was not the defining trait of that character. And I don't think lgbtq+ characters should somehow be 'safe' from being killed off because that's essentially asking for gay plot armour and not productive at all. Although obviously I will concede the point that lgbtq+ representation isn't as stellar as it should be (or other non-white representation) so I completely get why a f/f ship (or whatever you want to be invested in) is something those particular fans will cling onto dear life for and take it personally if or when something like this happens that causes that to no longer exist. This isn't the first time and not the last and I am not immune from this either, but at the end of the day the circumstances involved are complicated, at least the writing surrounding it is for the most part well done and communicates nuance at that moment and promises to moving forward, and the feelings of the fandom for one and many other reasons are also complicated and obviously matter as well.
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ufarn posted:I'm a little worried that Clarke will stop being interesting at this point; like a lot of other character, she's been drifting around a bit, and Lexa was great for the character.
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The Iron Rose posted:Lexa's death isn't problematic if you're only considering the context of the show and nothing else(though the fact it happened 1 scene after sex is kinda gross). It becomes problematic in the context of lesbians getting killed off all the time.  Although I do have to wonder if and when LGTBQ+ characters simply being killed off is normalized. Like as in, "oh, they killed off [this character], so-and-so was [nuanced portrayal, well-realized character], death was foreshadowed when you think about it, etc. and being a LGBTQ+ character is merely just a footnote. I get the impression the trend exists moreso in genre fiction because it's just simply easier to manufacture literal conflict as a means to put characters in danger, is that true? I know I'm certainly not qualified to make that demarcation. And I do fear it will be a while before LGBTQ+ characters are normalized in fiction. Like, I'm literally wondering when it stops being about the idea that writers are maliciously making those characters suffer for not being straight and those characters are suffering by the simple virtue that "bad things happen on good tv". I do wish I had the historical context some of you are speaking to. It's not that I don't go out of my way to look for it but I think it still is just rare even then. I watched like 70 shows to completion that aired in the last tv season, I think there was only like one or two f/f couples that were subject to the whims of drama but never ever placed in immediate danger and weren't just background lesbians. Troposphere posted:
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ufarn posted:The Comic Con panel is going to be something else innit? Oh Lord I forgot this was gonna be a thing. I'm both frightened and anxious to see exactly what happens. Or will it be far enough away that people will have cooled down?
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Monicro posted:It's more of an LGBTQ+ issue than a women's issue, but for obvious reasons one has to figure there's probably a few peeps under that umbrella in the writing staff so Of course, but I figured even if they were all straight women, they would smell it coming or be more aware. Or honestly even JGM who probably has the most experience in the room.
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zoux posted:Nah I think you would if you could, because that would straight up win you the argument.
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qbert posted:The Lexa thing aside I am really not digging this entire season as a whole. It seems like there are no characters to root for anymore. Maybe that's how the show always was, but it really feels like a ton of artificial drama/in-fighting for no reason and the only character motivations that make sense is the freaking AI that wants to conquer humanity.
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Crusty Nutsack posted:Where the hell is Abby right now???
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They really rushed Finn IMO but I'm okay that they sorta earned it back in the same episode they killed him. And of course people aren't gonna want to hand them over because you're literally sacrificing a person. It makes so much sense in hindsight (well, until, keep watching) but no one operates that pragmatically.
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Well who do you replace him with? Honest question? Cause Javier is supposed to be working on the Xena reboot. I don't know the rest of the writing staff that well (by whatever pedigrees they may or may not have, it's not notable enough for me to know at first glance) either so it's hard to say who if which can lead the room next if he gets forced out or steps down anyway. I get it's an adaptation of a book but the show has gone far and away enough it's more of Rothenberg's actual thing than anything. So excising the creator (effectively) from making his own creation is a really dicey proposition. But it sounds like a lovely position for the cast and crew so it'll probably happen sooner or later if that's actually the case.
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hope and vaseline posted:Yeah, it really could have stood to benefit from a flashback episode where we actually got to see Pike and farm station's hard choices, kind of like Lost's "The Other 48 Days." As of this point it's hard to have any kind of empathy for Pike's crew, which is kind of a huge failure in storytelling considering the crux of the Arkadia plot hinges on this. It's even hard to care about the destruction of Mt. Weather because we didn't get to know any of the people in there. They're just numbers in an increasingly large amount of deaths that the 100 likes to use to up the stakes. I know that they also didn't want to do an election episode but why not just split the difference and do that (election by means of maybe more exposition and actually feeling the mood in Arkadia) and flashback to Farm Station landing on Earth? Or literally, the last episode would've justified it too. Especially contrasting what Kane is doing while all the while reinforcing and showing us exactly what Farm Station went through and why they think they're justified not only in bringing a war to the grounders but also to root out traitors within. Maybe they didn't want to do it on the heels of the Polis episode which also featured flashbacks and make it look like a crutch? But anyways, it would've been an awesome companion episode alongside that. Like, I literally care about as much or even more about the three people who were on Polaris station as much as I do now for Pike and friends, and guess who has had like half a season to try to explain to me why they should be the protagonist in this story?
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hollylolly posted:I would not characterize the Arkers as "so willing" when it came to handing Finn over. They dragged their feet and agonized over that decision for far too long, imo.
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King of Bleh posted:The problem with the arkadia plot this season is that it's made plenty of conceptual sense, but all the critical emotional beats have either been classic "told and not shown" blunders (farm station's background, the election, the massacre of the peaceful grounders), or handled extremely ham-handedly (the mount weather bombing). There's no basis for audience buy-in, it's like being given the cliff notes of a plot and maybe one chapter in the middle. I wouldn't be surprised if they unironically thought Clarke mass murdering another group of people at the end of the season was actually a great, legitimate idea and not just a joke. I guess she passed the ball to Farm Station, but maybe it'll come back to her before all is said and done.
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Most writers and showrunners I follow generally know their boundaries. It sounds like Rotherberg might not if that's the case. Most other writers just tweet like regular people. Just on top of "hey make sure to tune in tonight for a new episode" or whatever, especially if they wrote it they might livetweet it or sometimes retweet some behind the scenes stuff. I've had writers say (in general) "if you tweet me any episode pitches I must block you for everyone's sake". They sure don't go baiting super hard for retweets or fanart or anything. Maybe just like positive reactions at best. Literally the most annoying my twitter feed ever got was Shawn Ryan retweeting positive tweets for Mad Dogs, mostly cause I didn't particularly like it but it was relatively harmless stuff too.
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STAC Goat posted:That must be why Harper, Miller, and Miller's boyfriend had to wait outside all episode. They'll be accepted into the club once they put a few more black marks on their souls.
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raditts posted:I'm pretty certain we'll find in time that all the "flamekeeper" stuff is a big pile of superstitious mumbo-jumbo bullshit that has built up over the years.
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Dalael posted:To be fair tho, Monty's mom was irredeemable I think. She was 100% with Pike on everything, she was part of the group who massacred the grounder army and she even turned Monty in. Her fate was sealed.
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Rocksicles posted:I find it hilarious that after all these scores of people she'd murked or killed by force of will, she can't loving fight. Like at all.
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steinrokkan posted:I don't thik many shows lose like 40% of their audience between episode one and half-season. Successful seasons actually gain viewers season-on-season, and retain them more or less throughout their run. Most shows premiere high and slowly lose viewers as the season goes on. This is no longer a surprise.
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Oroborus posted:Isn't a 1.1 rating still good for CW standards?
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Huh, it's not that I didn't think the show had to balls to basically tease Luna taking then chip and then not doing it (either by dying or refusing it so well as to avoid taking it). It's just that now I'm curious exactly where the show is gonna go with that point now, aren't there only like 2 episodes left, because it hasn't really put itself in any real direction coming out of it. Luna was a BAMF though, she just tore through everyone like it was no one's business. Clarke, Bellamy and Octavia did not need saving to save her, that's for sure.
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Spergatory posted:Though I suppose that's just what I hope happens, because having Jasper just give up and take the chip would run extremely counter to his character and undercut his entire arc. It would also make him irredeemable in the eyes of the audience, since he'd be the only "good guy" who took the chip knowing full well what it did, without doing it to save anyone. Plus, hasn't Monty lost enough? Well I never.
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