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Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


SO DEMANDING posted:

what the hell was the difference anyway? i remember somehow deciding that +R was the one to get but i have no idea why

there was something about being able to set the disc type to dvd-rom for better compatibility and only one of them could do that

idk there was probably other stuff too, i dont really remember the arguments anymore


i supported dvd-r

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

+r discs had to be formatted before writing, and iirc couldn't do multi-session recording

there was some minor thing that +r had over -r but it was something useless and spergy and i can't remember what it was

Sweevo fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Jan 17, 2016

SO DEMANDING
Dec 27, 2003

whoa i just remembered reading some horrible nerd forum dedicated to reviewing blank CDs and DVDs...CD freaks which apparently is now called MyCE?? http://club.myce.com/

oh yeah and i installed hacked firmware from there on my NEC dvd burner. gross.

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!
never rw'd a dvd did that with a few cds but it was still more trouble than it was worth

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!
i had a cd player in my 1991 tercel and i remember being so happy that i found some cheap office depot blanks cds that would work in it. it never liked burned cds that much so i was stuck mail ordering a certain model of ricoh cds for the longest time because they worked the best. i think i got the office depot ones for data backup and tried an audio cd just for fun and to my shock it worked great in the car!!!!

BANME.sh
Jan 23, 2008

What is this??
Are you some kind of hypnotist??
Grimey Drawer

GoldenTeeth posted:

I used to burn DVD rws w archives of games I wanted to play but didn't have space for at the time and didn't want to spend days redownloading

i did this too

then when steam got good and i had a decent internet connection i could just download games from steam faster than installing from dvd and it blew my mind.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

remember how windows had that weird thing that let you use a RW sort of like a flash drive? i used that a bit because it was cool as heck at the time

by "a bit" i think i mean "once"

oh also i had like one of the only CD players in the universe that can read CD-RW's so i'd burn a cd of cool tunes i liked and then when i got bored of them i'd rewrite it with new cool tunes :whatup:

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe

Bloody posted:

nah floppies are useful while optical media is not

I remember my first time installing NT4 on like a P100 that wouldn't boot fully from CD so I had to make 3 bootstrapping floppies with some /ox or /0x switch. then I got the magic of that login sound

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

pram posted:

your video codec is a piece of poo poo :razz: :holy:

your optical storage is a piece of poo poo :pram:

Dr. Honked
Jan 9, 2011

eat it you slaaaaaaag
you cunts have awakened a distant memory

making playstation games in the 1990's required a special cd writer and special gold discs, hence the term GM, "gold master", which survives to this day. you had to burn 8 of them i think and if anyone stomped on the floor nearby when a disk was burning, it would gently caress it. i had to yell at hyperactive qa people who would constantly jump up and down because of aspergers or some poo poo and kill disks while they were burning. i remember that they were incredibly expensive too, it was a loving big deal to reburn them

then you sent the disks off to sony via courier, and that was loving expensive because the courier would always have to wait while you were burning the disks, there was always some sort of fuckup that would delay the burn

when sony got the disks, one of their tests was the "machine gun test". they had a special rig called the "machine gun pad". this was a game controller that fired all of its buttons randomly 100 times per second or some poo poo. your game had to be subject to the machine gun test for 100 hours - they'd boot it up and let the machine gun rip. we had one title that failed after 99 hours. test report - "title fail machine gun test after 99 hour". that's the whole report. we just resubmitted and it passed. gently caress knows what was wrong, there's no way anyone could tell us what happened, because of olden days steam driven computer poo poo

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

Dr. Honked posted:

you cunts have awakened a distant memory

making playstation games in the 1990's required a special cd writer and special gold discs, hence the term GM, "gold master", which survives to this day. you had to burn 8 of them i think and if anyone stomped on the floor nearby when a disk was burning, it would gently caress it. i had to yell at hyperactive qa people who would constantly jump up and down because of aspergers or some poo poo and kill disks while they were burning. i remember that they were incredibly expensive too, it was a loving big deal to reburn them

then you sent the disks off to sony via courier, and that was loving expensive because the courier would always have to wait while you were burning the disks, there was always some sort of fuckup that would delay the burn

when sony got the disks, one of their tests was the "machine gun test". they had a special rig called the "machine gun pad". this was a game controller that fired all of its buttons randomly 100 times per second or some poo poo. your game had to be subject to the machine gun test for 100 hours - they'd boot it up and let the machine gun rip. we had one title that failed after 99 hours. test report - "title fail machine gun test after 99 hour". that's the whole report. we just resubmitted and it passed. gently caress knows what was wrong, there's no way anyone could tell us what happened, because of olden days steam driven computer poo poo

i love your video game stories, dr honked :allears:

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
That's pretty cool.

I also remember now when you got a bin/cue file and needed to use CDRWIN--and if you tried cracking that program it would act like your burns were successful but it would just make coasters all day.

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Hed posted:

a bin/cue file

those early 2000s feels

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Dr. Honked posted:

you cunts have awakened a distant memory

making playstation games in the 1990's required a special cd writer and special gold discs, hence the term GM, "gold master", which survives to this day. you had to burn 8 of them i think and if anyone stomped on the floor nearby when a disk was burning, it would gently caress it. i had to yell at hyperactive qa people who would constantly jump up and down because of aspergers or some poo poo and kill disks while they were burning. i remember that they were incredibly expensive too, it was a loving big deal to reburn them

then you sent the disks off to sony via courier, and that was loving expensive because the courier would always have to wait while you were burning the disks, there was always some sort of fuckup that would delay the burn

when sony got the disks, one of their tests was the "machine gun test". they had a special rig called the "machine gun pad". this was a game controller that fired all of its buttons randomly 100 times per second or some poo poo. your game had to be subject to the machine gun test for 100 hours - they'd boot it up and let the machine gun rip. we had one title that failed after 99 hours. test report - "title fail machine gun test after 99 hour". that's the whole report. we just resubmitted and it passed. gently caress knows what was wrong, there's no way anyone could tell us what happened, because of olden days steam driven computer poo poo

lol at the idea of companies actually caring to test for bugs in games :smith:

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

lol at the idea of companies actually caring to test for bugs in games :smith:

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

SO DEMANDING posted:

whoa i just remembered reading some horrible nerd forum dedicated to reviewing blank CDs and DVDs...CD freaks which apparently is now called MyCE?? http://club.myce.com/

oh yeah and i installed hacked firmware from there on my NEC dvd burner. gross.

the memories are flooding back

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

lol at the idea of companies actually caring to test for bugs in games :smith:

we used to live in a purer time

Dr. Honked
Jan 9, 2011

eat it you slaaaaaaag

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

lol at the idea of companies actually caring to test for bugs in games :smith:

you'd be surprised, i spent a while working for ea a little while back and they had a really good qa process, there was a qa team in house but also each dev team would get an embedded qa person who would test every new feature that went in, before it could be closed out. i could say a lot of rude things about ea but the qa process in this particular studio was super great

craisins
May 17, 2004

A DRIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

lol at the idea of companies actually caring to test for bugs in games :smith:
now that you can release patches over the internet - you can just release buggy software and fix it later!

Dr. Honked
Jan 9, 2011

eat it you slaaaaaaag

craisins posted:

now that you can release patches over the internet - you can just release buggy software and fix it later!

they call it "soft launch" don't get me loving started jeeez

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica
I freed my itunes library with a cd-rw way back b4 I realized I was being punished for buying digital music.

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003
poo poo, I forgot that for awhile I made some easy scratch soldering modchips into PS1s and selling burned games

craisins
May 17, 2004

A DRIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!

Dr. Honked posted:

they call it "soft launch" don't get me loving started jeeez

what games have you worked on? is that the kind of crap you can divulge? is there a dr honked talks about making games thread?

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Dr. Honked posted:

when sony got the disks, one of their tests was the "machine gun test". they had a special rig called the "machine gun pad". this was a game controller that fired all of its buttons randomly 100 times per second or some poo poo. your game had to be subject to the machine gun test for 100 hours - they'd boot it up and let the machine gun rip. we had one title that failed after 99 hours. test report - "title fail machine gun test after 99 hour". that's the whole report. we just resubmitted and it passed. gently caress knows what was wrong, there's no way anyone could tell us what happened, because of olden days steam driven computer poo poo

one time working qa at ea I found a crash in a wii game, which only I could trigger by alternatingly flailing the controllers and continuously mashing the A, B, C, and Z buttons semirandomly

they kept having to bring me over to the devs' pen in another building on site to repro it for them in debug

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Dr. Honked posted:

you cunts have awakened a distant memory

making playstation games in the 1990's required a special cd writer and special gold discs, hence the term GM, "gold master", which survives to this day. you had to burn 8 of them i think and if anyone stomped on the floor nearby when a disk was burning, it would gently caress it. i had to yell at hyperactive qa people who would constantly jump up and down because of aspergers or some poo poo and kill disks while they were burning. i remember that they were incredibly expensive too, it was a loving big deal to reburn them

then you sent the disks off to sony via courier, and that was loving expensive because the courier would always have to wait while you were burning the disks, there was always some sort of fuckup that would delay the burn

when sony got the disks, one of their tests was the "machine gun test". they had a special rig called the "machine gun pad". this was a game controller that fired all of its buttons randomly 100 times per second or some poo poo. your game had to be subject to the machine gun test for 100 hours - they'd boot it up and let the machine gun rip. we had one title that failed after 99 hours. test report - "title fail machine gun test after 99 hour". that's the whole report. we just resubmitted and it passed. gently caress knows what was wrong, there's no way anyone could tell us what happened, because of olden days steam driven computer poo poo

:allears:

Underwear
May 13, 2006

craisins posted:

what games have you worked on? is that the kind of crap you can divulge? is there a dr honked talks about making games thread?

kliksf
Jan 1, 2003
I did
(crazy instrumental break)
I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat

CUNT AND PASTE
Aug 15, 2004

~see my amazon wishlistu~
back when i was doing custom windows xp images i'd test the ISOs in a virtual machine but then burn them off to DVDRW and use it to install on another computer, then wipe/rewrite with changes and it probably saved me $5 total

i wandered into a thrift store and found a stack of like 8-10 used DVDRWs for $2 so i bought them and they were from someone's combo VCR/DVDRW machine and they had actually used the discs to record some PBS and letterman and snls in 2003 but the commercial breaks were full of local commercials from michigan or something

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Dr. Honked posted:

i spent a while working for ea

i'm sorry

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
what was up with those black cd-rs you could get anyway

i'd heard you had better luck getting pirated games to work on a playstation with those. i'm guessing that's bullshit? i assume they were just made to look cool

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord

oval office AND PASTE posted:

i wandered into a thrift store and found a stack of like 8-10 used DVDRWs for $2 so i bought them and they were from someone's combo VCR/DVDRW machine and they had actually used the discs to record some PBS and letterman and snls in 2003 but the commercial breaks were full of local commercials from michigan or something
don't touch dad's diskettes

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Dr. Honked posted:

i had to yell at hyperactive qa people who would constantly jump up and down because of aspergers or some poo poo and kill disks while they were burning.

Stonked again

:stonk:

CUNT AND PASTE
Aug 15, 2004

~see my amazon wishlistu~

jony ive aces posted:

don't touch dad's diskettes

oh yeah when i did that thread i backed all that poo poo up somewhere lol

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:

lol i remember arguing online about dvd-r vs dvd+r

I don't know who u are but good username and this is good yospos poo poo right here

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

jony ive aces posted:

don't touch dad's diskettes

i made the mistake of touching dad's unlabeled DVD-RW and it wound up being porn of him and mom and now the three seconds of it that came up before i frantically ejected it are burned into my memory forever

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

i made the mistake of touching dad's unlabeled DVD-RW and it wound up being porn of him and mom and now the three seconds of it that came up before i frantically ejected it are burned into my memory forever

:owned:

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
i did work at a military facility once as a contractor and we weren't allowed to attach our computers to their network

we also couldnt attach USB devices (if you did, it would very likely end up with an armed response, and they would yank the entire computer off the network and send it to the lab for inspection, 6 months later you MAY get the computer back).

log files weren't allowed to be emailed. so we had to use CD-Rs for everything. we had to copy a 20k log file, so that was a CD burnt, which was used to transfer it to one of our machines, then emailed out. we went through a dozen CDs copying single log files that were less than 50k each. (it was an incremental process).

it explained the stacks of nearly 10,000 CD-Rs they had in the office.

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

Dr. Honked posted:

you cunts have awakened a distant memory

making playstation games in the 1990's required a special cd writer and special gold discs, hence the term GM, "gold master", which survives to this day. you had to burn 8 of them i think and if anyone stomped on the floor nearby when a disk was burning, it would gently caress it. i had to yell at hyperactive qa people who would constantly jump up and down because of aspergers or some poo poo and kill disks while they were burning. i remember that they were incredibly expensive too, it was a loving big deal to reburn them

then you sent the disks off to sony via courier, and that was loving expensive because the courier would always have to wait while you were burning the disks, there was always some sort of fuckup that would delay the burn

when sony got the disks, one of their tests was the "machine gun test". they had a special rig called the "machine gun pad". this was a game controller that fired all of its buttons randomly 100 times per second or some poo poo. your game had to be subject to the machine gun test for 100 hours - they'd boot it up and let the machine gun rip. we had one title that failed after 99 hours. test report - "title fail machine gun test after 99 hour". that's the whole report. we just resubmitted and it passed. gently caress knows what was wrong, there's no way anyone could tell us what happened, because of olden days steam driven computer poo poo

i saw a youtube video awhile back where some sperg collector bought a ton of old playstation dev stuff from an auction of a failed company (acclaim?) for a pittance. had boxes of these gold master cds of various old games.

ed: found it. of course there is some anime poo poo in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt4HVLe9m2A

ed2 lol this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5f4-aADR_0

akadajet fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Jan 18, 2016

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

log files weren't allowed to be emailed. so we had to use CD-Rs for everything. we had to copy a 20k log file, so that was a CD burnt, which was used to transfer it to one of our machines, then emailed out. we went through a dozen CDs copying single log files that were less than 50k each. (it was an incremental process).

those kinds of places love the sneakernet.

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CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat

akadajet posted:

those kinds of places love the sneakernet.

yeah, but couldnt even use a USB drive because they cant trust the hardware.

i understand why, but goddamn burning a small file takes forever for the thing to spin up, then close the session

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