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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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We all knew it was going to happen. The Big 12's presidents meetings February 4th and 5th may end up determining the future of one of college football's Power 5 conference. Oklahoma, West Virginia, and Baylor's presidents have all come out and said they want to expand to 12 teams, but that's not all. University of Oklahoma president David Boren has made...certain threatening comments. Boren has said if nothing happens, "then I try to think long-term." Apart from the expansion to 12 teams and the conference championship game, Boren wants the Longhorn Network, which has a contract with ESPN until 2031, to be replaced by a Big 12 Network. This may prove a problem. Despite projecting to turn its first ever profit in 2016, ESPN has no reported plans to buy out the deal with the University of Texas, which is worth $15 million a year.

This thread is for two scenarios:
a) The Big 12 expands
B) OU bolts the Big 12, and chaos occurs

As of August 31st, the candidates are down to 12, possibly 13 schools. In order of probability, with my comment:

-Cincinnati (invades Big Ten territory, and can easily be A Thing)
-Colorado State (could bring the Denver market, which could be useful)
-Connecticut (despite being bad in football, would bring northeast eyes to the Big 12)
-BYU (West Virginia won't let this happen)
-Houston (high momentum in football)
-SMU (poor football team, shares same territory as TCU)
-Central Florida (no history and went winless last year, but fertile recruiting ground)
-South Florida (like UCF, but better)
-Temple (I don't know if there is actual discussion among Big 12 presidents)
-Tulane (New Orleans market, and that's it)
-Air Force (in a world where CSU is on the market, I doubt they make it any further)
-Rice (how on Earth)

After the Big 12's future is straightened out, ripples will effect the other conferences. Who would the American poach from Conference USA? Who would C-USA poach from the Sun Belt? Who would the Sun Belt poach from the FCS? For the first time in years, Conference-mageddon is seemingly imminent. WHO WILL SURVIVE, AND WHAT WILL BE LEFT OF THEM?

:siren: THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED :siren:

Coastal Carolina -> Sun Belt
Idaho -> Big Sky (FCS)
New Mexico State -> FBS Independent

Edward Mass fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Sep 3, 2016

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Edward Mass
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My personal opinion, which I have stated before, is that the Big 12 should go Big 14. It's the era of the super-conference, and if the Big Ten can get away with adding Rutgers, anything's on the table. Three schools north of the 36th parallel, one school south of the 36th parallel.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Houston, Memphis, Central Florida, and Colorado State are all jockeying for position, if Gordon Gee's inbox means anything.

Edward Mass
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There's a reason I put Tulsa in the not-gonna-happen tier.

Edward Mass
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rebel1608 posted:

I can't fathom someone having strong opinions about Laramie

Seeing as how San Diego State and Wyoming have been in the same conference forever, there's probably a reason his hatred.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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I think the Big 12 needs to go Big 14 now. With the ACC's grant of rights going to 2036, there is no good reason not to go whole hog now on inviting the AAC's most visible schools.

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Sep 14, 2011

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Thoguh posted:

BYU and UCONN as candidates makes me irrationally angry for some reason.

Because they're 2300 miles away from each other?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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You can't have a conference network with only 10 teams. Almost all the games are televised nationally as it is!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Benne posted:

How the gently caress did Texas manage to elect a worse governor/human being than Rick Perry

Texans didn't vote for Wendy Davis because OBAMA

Edward Mass
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Ohio governor John "son of a mailman" Kasich wrote a letter to the Big 12 in support of Cincy joining.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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kayakyakr posted:

Except that Pac-12 networks are on Fox and LHN is ESPN.

Pac-12 Networks are owned by the conference 100%.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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The main problem I see in the Big 12 adding Houston and Cincinnati is, how do you divide the schools into two divisions? You've got five teams in the state of Texas and six teams per division. Who ends up in the Lone Star division?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Kim Jong Il posted:

Eh let the Mormons in.

A bunch of LGBT groups don't want the Big 12 to invite BYU, so I imagine the conference is keeping that in mind.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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The Big 12 has a final list of candidates they're interviewing. They are:

-The entire American, minus Tulsa and Navy
-BYU
-Boise State
-Colorado State
-New Mexico
-3 more unidentified schools, so a better question is who is NOT being considered.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Congrats, SA2K, you've made the list!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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The MAC doesn't allow football-only programs anymore, that's why UMass is an independent this year. If UConn is going somewhere, it's probably CUSA.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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MourningView posted:

They made a really bad coaching hire and aren't in a great recruiting area.

They play in Los Angeles every year, they SHOULD be able to recruit there.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Rumor has it Bob Bowlsby has trimmed the candidate schools to 8 at most, and it's pretty obvious who on the list of 20 aren't on there.

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Sep 14, 2011

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Thoguh posted:

Aw, Tulane didn't make the cut.

I guess I'm still on the Cinci and Memphis train if we have to do this and that's the list of possibilities. But I still want to stay at ten.

Tulane might be one of the two unnamed schools.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Spacebump posted:

I have a feeling the next round is going to be TX/TX Tech moving to the Pac 12 and OU/OK State going to SEC. Then they take away Big 12 access to the playoffs and make all other conferences the 2nd division.

There is no way Texas ends its other long-running rivalry via conference realignment.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Spacebump posted:

Out of conference games will still happen. Those games will be less risky when only the Power 4 can make the playoffs.

Which is why the Lone Star Showdown will resume in 20XX.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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I saw Bob Bowlsby at the Cotton Bowl, so I yelled at him to expand the Big 12, and specifically to add Cincinnati. If it happens, you can thank me.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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God, 5:30 can't come soon enough.

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Well, this was fun while it lasted.

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