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jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Top City Homo posted:

socialism is sexy? now is my time

i tried all the engels and finally there is a way that will hit the marx

:lol:

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jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

how's the food? every time i've gone to any left meeting it's been some kind of potluck and some fucker always brings some eggplant vegan casserole bullshit and i have to eat it and pretend it's good

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Top City Homo posted:

why don't you bring your own for a chance?

domino's pizza inc

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Top City Homo posted:

thats almost as bad as that vegan eggplant poo poo

the left will never be unified

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

First World lifestyles are predicated upon the gross overconsumption of resources by individuals. Desuburbanization and transforming transportation from individually-based automobiles to public transit would mean a drastic reduction in the quality of life for a First World worker. The point is to create liveable conditions for the whole of humanity while attempting to deal with the climate crisis, and that's going to involve significant rationing of goods for people who have never experienced it once in their entire lives.

what goods are we talking about? not video games, right?

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

god drat the only good thing in life is zevon and he's dead as poo poo

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

i assume she will be a registered write in option in texas?

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Classic Comrade posted:

as someone who's finally trying to take the time to officially learn all this poo poo, this makes a lot of the things i was confused about click. ...which probably sounds stupid and probably should have been obvious to me but oh well at least it makes sense to me now.

but yeah i'm still very uneducated and underinformed outside of liking the general concepts of things like marxism, socialism, etc etc. i've been lazy about learning all the details of it because the text surrounding these concepts is usually pretty dense and very academic in tone (or at least, in my experience), but it's something i'm going to try and remedy over the summer, since i have time now. :)

philosophy is very hard especially if you're just reading on your own. you should see if there's a socialist reading group in your area because it really helps to talk through that stuff with other people

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Homework Explainer posted:

the best/coolest thing about marxism vs other political theory is, it's expressly designed to be understood and followed by the masses. so unless you're digging into deep academic marxism there's a wealth of pamphlets and pieces written specifically for busy workers. the manifesto is the most famous example but the soviets wrote TONS of stuff that's easily digestible. lenin was good about that and i can link some stuff if you want

you should definitely link some of that stuff

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Condiv posted:

anyone voted for gloria la riva?

I wrote her in :patriot: 🇨🇳🇱🇷

same but idk if she is registered as a write in in tx

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

if there isn't a good choice on your ballot you can always walk into the booth and then walk back out without voting for president and then post about it in the hillary thread

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

you should only vote if you already got stoned and can't think of something better to do

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009


:getin:

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

dsa meeting tonight maybe they'll be ready to get radical

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

good meeting with the dsa tonight. bunch of new faces and some cpusa guests. probably our biggest gathering up to this point. i think the normally liberalish people are more responsive to anticapitalist talk than before.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

the best part of the dsa is their official policy that socialism is whatever it means to you in your heart

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

it's called the immortal science of course it still makes sense lol

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Baloogan posted:

im gonna just lol all day and all night at the thought of cruddy coastal communists going rural and trying to gain the trust of peeps out here

my dangly earring and tight pants are gonna be a home run in rural mississippi and i think i'll finally have the proletariat organized if i can just yell at enough people about saying "illegal immigrant" instead of "undocumented worker"

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

I was in nyc the other week and a guy on a pedicab yelled "you can identify the pigs by their money and their wealth!" at me from across the street so I just took it as a compliment that I was dressed well

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

im the liberal with no interest in dismantling capitalism or establishing a dictatorship of the proletariat but that is inexplicably hanging around the marx thread trying to get leftists to denounce socialism around the world

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

steinrokkan posted:

How dare liberals intrude on a gathering of people salivating at the idea of murdering them for having slightly more money.

i used to have money until i lost it all betting on a liberal winning the presidency

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:

Your understanding of Athenian democracy doesn't even rise to Wikipedia levels.

lol

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUifliF0rBU
sry im drunk

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEKYQ4GOqmk

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Doc Neutral posted:

I've had this video shared by some friends in a checkmate socialist :smug: kinda way and it was too long a video for me refute it but I'm wondering if any of you have seen it and if so what's your take on it? I realise I'm being lazy as hell here but I'm still a babby when it comes to marxist theory, so please chip in comrades. :negative:
https://youtu.be/1AIew3RN4R4

that's really lo9ng. can someone link the part where someone hits him with a bottle or something?

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

long night of direct action in college station tx. had a huge leftist showing against richard spencer speaking at the university. we were forcibly removed by riot squad at shield and baton point and horse mounted troops and we had one young comrade suffer a concussion at the hands of the troopers. no fascists moved freely and spencer was evacuated under stealth. i'd say we had several hundred leftists from around the state as well as a thousand non radicals in attendance. will be reporting more about the injured comrade as i hear more; hopefully if she's not insured we can pass the can around and help her out with any medical bills. end of the night we bashed the fuckin fash and i'm extremely proud of the showing that the left made in the most conservative university in tx. someone please make a good meme out of this.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

jarofpiss posted:

long night of direct action in college station tx. had a huge leftist showing against richard spencer speaking at the university. we were forcibly removed by riot squad at shield and baton point and horse mounted troops and we had one young comrade suffer a concussion at the hands of the troopers. no fascists moved freely and spencer was evacuated under stealth. i'd say we had several hundred leftists from around the state as well as a thousand non radicals in attendance. will be reporting more about the injured comrade as i hear more; hopefully if she's not insured we can pass the can around and help her out with any medical bills. end of the night we bashed the fuckin fash and i'm extremely proud of the showing that the left made in the most conservative university in tx. someone please make a good meme out of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwcKwGS7OSQ

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

i should have some appropriately censored pictures by tomorrow but just google tx a&m spencer protest and you can see videos of the riot squad doing their thing. we organized misc communists, socialists, anarchists, etc from around the state and brought a terrifying showing counter to the pathetic nazi presence that had the sack to actually show up. antifa, redguard, as well as cpusa, new black panthers, black lives matter, dsa, and other misc anarchist and other leftist groups unified in a way i haven't seen before to shut down, occupy, and prevent the fascists from drawing a national platform from the media.

the fact that we had explicit communists and redguard demonstrating alongside conservative/liberal college students without infighting against a common fascist enemy gives me hope for the future. the moderates were confused, but i believe they appreciated the protection the vanguard ultimately provided.

when we fight, we win. solidarity forever.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009


tfw u a riot cop of color and you are forcing the people out of a building dedicated to people who died killin nazis because they're trying to get at the nazi inside

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Ice Cream Barbara posted:

What is everyone doing for Inauguration Day? I'm organizing

Personally, I'm debating between doing direct action and arguing with democrats on the Internet

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Yinlock posted:

"communism never worked out that well in practice" is pretty well-established though

Interesting that the countries people point to in regard to this are the most authoritarian examples of communism because of any socialist movement being constantly assaulted by us destabilization efforts.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Also interesting how our great society movements and liberal capitalist social programs have led to the greatest wealth inequality in the history of mankind. I'm sure that has nothing to do with that government structure being wholly unequipped to deal with the constant and inevitable assault of capital on those systems.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

perhaps a revolution without a repression of the counterrevolutionary movements is useless? maybe if the north had actively repressed the confederate movements after the civil war we might not have had another hundred years of the tyranny of the kkk in the south?

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

"castro stole my families farms and drove us out of our homeland! communism is bad!"
*is a descendant of a sugar cane slaver*

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

asdf32 posted:

When people say stuff like this are they thinking of the same US that I am that watched half the globe turn socialist with resistance efforts including losing the vietnam war, fighting korea to a stalemate and dying castro's beard?

nope. wake up, neo

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

asdf32 posted:

Yeah it probably means something that half the responses in the Marxism thread are comics or YouTube videos.

memes will drive the discourse for the foreseeable future

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

zen death robot posted:

That's not nice

atone for your class crimes with your blood imho

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Enjoy posted:

If evil dictatorship were necessary for implementing communism, what's the problem?

a communist dictatorship cannot be evil, checkmate

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jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

zen death robot posted:

stares at whatever North Korea is....

the nation of the cleanest people

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