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decided to download it and lmao right out of the gate-quote:What we mean when we say socialism is, simply put, a society where workers collectively own and democratically control their labor and the value they produce. In other words, a classless society, free of exploitation and oppression. Its essence is evoked in two common phrases of Marx, who described socialism as a world “from each according to their ability and to each according to their need,” which comes into realization through the “self-emancipation” of the working class.
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finally am getting around to losurdo's stalin book thanks to this thread and man, he really hates trotsky lmao. perhaps even more than khrushchev
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May 13, 2021 02:34
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Ferrinus posted:you mean history of a black legend? i actually don't remember it dwelling on trotsky that much, and mostly to illustrate hypocrisy or differences of degree rather than kind (like trotsky still objecting to the deliberate abolition of the family despite doing the messianic, universality thing on other issues) i admit im only halfway through it, but what the gently caress are you talking about. so far the entire book exists to dunk on trotsky and krushchev for being wrong.
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you are right that it doesnt dwell on trotsky, it only repeatedly uses his quotes to prove, definitively, what a whiny lil bitch he was
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gradenko_2000 posted:It's also fun when Losurdo goes "see? Even Trotsky agreed with this idea" the numerous applebaum sources were quite the surprise i agree losurdo doesnt really bring true vitriol, he just often makes him look kinda like a weiner: quote:In his speech on the drafting of the Constitution of 1936, Stalin criticizes those who want “to prohibit the holding of religious ceremonies” and “deprive clergymen of their right to vote." And again Trotsky intervenes to denounce that unacceptable retreat with respect to the initial project for the definitive liberation of society from the shackles of superstition: “The assault on the heavens has ceased [...]. Worried about their good reputation, the bureaucracy ordered the atheist youths to hand over their weapons and get on with reading. It’s only the start. A regime of ironic neutrality is being slowly instituted with regards to religion." stalin; cool, calm, reasonable trotsky: stammering hyperbole, probably crying when he wrote this e: bonus quote:As you can see, it doesn’t make much sense to blame Stalin’s narcissism, as Khrushchev does, for the exalted state that the cult of personality reaches in the USSR after a certain amount of time. In fact, when Kaganovich suggests substituting the term Marxism-Leninism for Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism, the leader to whom that tribute is directed responds: “you want to compare a dick to a guard tower."
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i think china is good
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just read stalin
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quote:Overall, these are the years in which the USSR strongly supports Zionism and the creation of Israel. Stalin plays a frontline role, and perhaps even a decisive role. Without him “the emergence of the Jewish state in Palestine would have been difficult”―a Russian historian goes as far as saying, using documents recently made public in his country. In any case, as another author (this time a Western one) observes, the speech in May of 1948 before the UN by the Soviet minister of foreign affairs, Andrei A. Gromyko, appears “like something out of a Zionist propaganda manual”: the foundation of Israel is necessary for the fact that “in the territories occupied by the Nazis, the Jews suffered an almost complete annihilation”, while “no state of Western Europe was able to provide adequate assistance to the Jewish people in defense of their rights and their very existence." quote:So, what sense is there to speak of “antisemitism” with regard to Stalin? The support given by him to the foundation and consolidation of the Jewish State is at the same time a contribution given to the Nakbah, that is the national “catastrophe” for the Palestinian people, who for decades continue to languish in refugee camps and in the territories subjected to a ruthless military occupation and a rampant process of colonization. If, for the purposes of being absurd, Stalin must be accused of “antisemitism”, he should be accused of “antisemitism” toward Arabs. sorry stalin is bad now
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