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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I think it's pretty easy to see how serfs might have been better off than early wage workers and indentured servants

You could definitely argue that it's still true today, at least for people making minimum wage

I mean, you're basically a slave, but at least you have property and there's something of a Hobbes style social contract thing happening. There's no true incentive for the factory owner to be good to the worker other than maybe labor competition or legal requirements

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Maybe I sound like a regressionist or a Luddite or something but I gotta say having 50 acres or so of my own is a life long dream

Doesn't even need a house or utilities. I'll Make Do

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Agean90 posted:

so how dumb is this thread when you have to preemptively apologize for thinking that having some land in the middle of nowhere would be nice


I don't know any socialists IRL so when I try to explain things like 'actually producing something of value sounds more fulfilling to me than working in a data center' gets me blank stares

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ruzihm posted:



also

free speech is good, and speech used to perpetuate oppression is not free

I hate anti-moderates because it spreads the idea that compromise is impossible and not worth bothering with, which isn't true in most cases

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Here's my hot take: it's weird to be biased against people based on melanin content, or, well, anything, actually

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dreddout posted:

Unfortunately, it's really not weird at all. Most humans have deeply ingrained biases based on tribal remnants.

One of the things i like about socialism is it's ability to bring people under a more inclusive caste. Almost everyone has to work for a living!

Actually it is weird to hate other people

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Just because some people are prejudiced, doesn't mean it's good. It's bad actually

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Also let's not pretend like anyone here actually cares deeply about African tribal conflict or whatever. That stuff is bad but there's nothing I can do about it and it doesn't affect me. But stuff happening in the West does and I can affect it

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Also, it's weird to assume everyone is secretly hateful when I can assume everyone is nice and deal with the hateful people as the outlier instead of whatever online depressive poo poo your talking about

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I guess what I'm saying is it's starting to bother me how apparently the only Marxists I've ever met online or in real life who don't immediately treat everyone else as The Enemy (unless they're a minimum wage worker or a union member) is old commune hippies. And those guys are weirdos

Larry Parrish fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Jan 1, 2017

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Why did t edit the post I posted 5 minutes ago when I clicked new post

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
This phone app sucks!!!

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dreddout posted:

Android apps are bourgeois

We should unironically get rid of smart phones

Luckily I grew up poor and rural so I actually know how to get around without a GPS

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Mane it's because I haven't been and still haven't really gotten deep into the marxist community but based on the people I know it wouldn't be hard to convince a lot of people that American capitalism doesn't work and we need to try something new

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
And, furthermore, acting like everyone you meet is some kind of tribal racist or wants to be is counter productive

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

This is the funniest tweet I have seen all week

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
That's a good name

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I guess it's changing in the way sand and old sea shells change into sedimentary rock

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i know this is hard to think of in a post cold war world, but, regional power is what nations are before they become super powers. regional superpower doesnt even make sense. either you can project influence or force across the world at will, or you can't.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
My laymans interpretation of the USSR, is that it's the same thing that always happens with revolutions. They're bloody and don't always resemble the movement that started the fire

Anyway it was pretty much a fascist state in all but name during Stalins regime

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

In what way is a dictator with unlimited power performing purges of those who don't agree with or rival him not resemble a fascist state.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
God willing, the revolution will start in Free Kurdistan and spread

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

jarofpiss posted:

why can't that guy work or go to meetings? i don't follow left twitter

He's the kind of leftist that wants to ride a NPO ticket to the middle class instead of doing something

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Baloogan posted:

oh hey where are the heros?

there are no leftist heros because you all got jobs in finance and IT

poo poo posting on the internet, yeah that matters

hammer and sickle akimbo on everythign like black swastica like it matters

spend a day in a real worker's shoes, stand up all day at a retail job

I'm a retail worker who believes in global revolution precisely because I am suffering in minimum wage hell. Although I recently got a job as a security guard at 12$ an hour so maybe it's time to embrace the republican party

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I listened to Chapo with my main man the Twitter YPG clown and now I'm going to buy a pair of yellow tint shades and a ticket to Baghdad

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Atrocious Joe posted:

PSL newspapers double as posters so that's cool

I'm starting to think these guys don't actually do anything in California besides get weird looks at protests and hand out flyers

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The only PSL email I've gotten since registering on election day is one asking me to buy their feminist magazine. I'm starting to think these guys consist 100% of Berkeley students and they don't want to talk with me because I'm probably a deranged NorCal redneck (they're right) but jeez louise.

I guess I could just show up to meetings like a normal person but like, I'm not the typical trust fund California leftist so, you know. I actually have to work. Least they could do is ask me to help set up chairs or something.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

how north are we talking because if you're in jim wood's assembly district (west side of the state, northern border down to part of santa rosa) theres a guaranteed healthcare bill thing that would appreciate your help if you're free on friday afternoon/evening times

McClintock

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
To clarify fit those not on the up and up about California red neck politics: everyone, literally everyone in this part of the county is either a straight up communist, a libertarian, a Mormon theocrat or a nihilist who gave up voting 40 years ago

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lmao I can't believe redneck revolt is a real thing but that's literally my political thought; capitalism has failed anyone who isn't a coastal elite and must be destroyed

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Although it's funny because apparently the closest existing chapter is in L.A. and I wish those people would die of thirst already

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I've lived in "flyover country" all my life, so nothing appeals to me more than a Redneck revolt.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
One day there will be a leftist political movement that isn't for and by college students

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Prav posted:

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This is why the myth of communism being impossible persists

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

jarofpiss posted:

i wish mike rowe wasnt so lovely

He's a garbage person but im glad he made logging and agriculture and stuff look better and more attractive than it really is

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Hah, americans are such retards. *posts a prison planet article*

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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