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Karl Barks posted:

can't wait for jacobin to die so I can read the other socialist periodical

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Why is there more than one snoo

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GalacticAcid posted:

I subbed for a while...2014-2017. But now? Over it!

I dommed

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comedyblissoption posted:

chomsky sucks, but someone who condemns economic social hierarchies and markets isn't a liberal by definition

Chomsky is against markets?

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I made a moon character as counterpart to the sun. He's pale and round to represent goons and he gets pissed off when you DON'T mention nuclear power

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Squizzle posted:

in case you dont look at the stickies you might wanna look at this one because we are actively soliciting feedback wrt cspam: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3921561

My feedback wrt CSPAM: it's good

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Wtf is the Soviet Union

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comedyblissoption posted:

the end goal should be an economy that allocates based on need and not based on markets

The problem with this is that it's a very incomplete description of an economy because so much economic activity isn't based on need. For example a socdem country could be said to satisfy that criteria because everyone can get food, shelter, clothes, healthcare, education, entertainment, etc. But it's still capitalist

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Ferrinus posted:

a social democratic economy is still ruled by the profit motive, the stewards of the state just have the foresight and discipline to recognize that it's harder to generate profits if your population is dying of deprivation and/or in open revolt. that's why marxism is about actually seizing the means of production and controlling what gets made and for whom rather than simply extracting increasingly better deals re: health care, wages, whatever

Right. That's why comedyblissoption's definition of the ultimate economy is incomplete

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Are there really people who think China isn't imperialist

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GalacticAcid posted:

yes and most of them post itt, like Me

drat

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*Starts hacking and coughing*

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Autism Sneaks posted:

jr definitely doesn't lol

I do so

Lady Militant posted:

if you we agreed would it change anything about the international dynamics of the USA being a self interested AND self destructive empire while at least the chinese seem significantly less hellbent on wiping out humanity?

Probably not but I'm in favor of calling a spade a spade

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apropos to nothing posted:

i think the big issue with stalin isnt that he or the soviet union under his leadership made mistakes, as is bound to happen to anyone and everyone. think its more that he and the soviet union killed a bunch of communists. speaking as a communist, i would like not to be killed.

Isn't that one of the mistakes they made, that are bound to happen to anyone and everyone

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Tricksy Trotsky strikes again :argh:

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apropos to nothing posted:

if im obnoxious ill stop posting here then. only reason i do is cause lots of people in online spaces, even this one, are looking to get organized in some way and want to help in that process. namaste.

I haven't read through this stuff but if you're posting in good faith keep doing it. It's intellectually healthy to have some pushback

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T-man posted:

never stop posting comrade, then your enemies win

e: finally got my nojoe back hooray

Be sure to post your best while you're repping us

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Dreylad posted:

trying to push back against the obvious cia-backed media skewering China for anything it does by going too far in the other direction and excusing extremely bad stuff, basically

Yeah it's a combination of "enemy of my enemy" and desperately wanting there to be a good guy in global politics

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Tiger King is exhausting to watch because there's no one to root for and that's also global news

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GalacticAcid posted:

Apparently there’s a Netflix show about trotsky now

Yeah, it's called...

Nevermind I can't think of anything

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Varinn posted:

as a non-anarchist ive never understood the absolute vitriol people always have for them when they come up. a lot of anarchist ideas/theory seem really interesting to think about (but not practice), and as a political force they're probably the one group with less power than us lmao

but people go OFF on them constantly. w/e let them live their weird lives

It's because of Al!

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Ardennes posted:

So yeah how do you have a state without a state "bourgeoisie"? Are all authoritarian right-wing regimes fascist or is it worth to differentiate between them?

The real question is how to pronounce bourgeoisie. In the entire history of leftism no theorist has been able to come up with a satisfying answer

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Ardennes posted:

Maybe because not all leftists know Parisian French?

Revisionist excuses

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Bower-zhwees

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Lol

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T-man posted:

if sexuality was chosen the world would be 95% lesbians because men are trash

Dudes rock actually

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Algund Eenboom posted:

Democratic strasserites of amerika is a funny avatar text.

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