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British capitalists killed 2 million Indians throughout the Bengal Famine of 1948.
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Jewel Repetition posted:Has anyone ever denied a genocide/atrocity happened and been on the right side of history?
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The Saurus posted:I don''t give a gently caress about luxury goods, but if I have to give up pizza as a precondition of socialism then I'd rather live in a neoliberal paradise. I have good news, friend. Under socialism you will be able to keep all your pizzas and other personal property.
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Jan 27, 2016 23:09
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What we need is someone pragmatic enough to negotiate her way out of this partisan gridlock!
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Feb 3, 2016 22:27
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The Saurus posted:The solution for lovely conditions in other countries is for socialist revolution there and elsewhere and international solidarity, helping to develop their countries.  Mass immigration is a safety valve that keeps capitalism functioning smoothly, (for capitalists like the narcos)
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Feb 10, 2016 21:11
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Did we talk about how Cuba has won a massive concession from the US yet?
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Aug 30, 2016 12:01
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's fascinating how far the goal posts were moved from "communism isn't a dead ideology in the Global South" to, "oh yeah? Well FARC is giving up their war with the Colombian state, so what about that?" As if communism isn't real if there's not an active militant insurgency. And Cuba! Why does everyone forget about Cuba?!
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Aug 31, 2016 13:43
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Typo posted:right so basically you are describing a generic social democratic party I'm getting the feeling that you don't really understand what you are posting about.
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Aug 31, 2016 21:42
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Typo posted:How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin. nicemeltdown
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Aug 31, 2016 22:18
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"Nice meltdown" seems like something a modern Ronald Reagan would say to win a debate. lol
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Aug 31, 2016 22:19
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There you go again.. 
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Aug 31, 2016 22:21
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Are you implying that the USSR created a sizable pseudo middle class capable of purchasing automobiles out of a backwater slave nation, but instead of focusing on manufacturing cars and improving its economy, the USSR put its meager resources towards improving its overall standard of living?
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Sep 1, 2016 00:28
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Constant Hamprince posted:gotta shift shift shift that rhetorical focus btw horseshoe theory is a mythhhhhhhh Haha horseshoe theory oh my god 😂
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Sep 1, 2016 18:50
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"I like to imagine that political ideologies exist on a horizontal plane from left to right. Also, this plane loops back around on itself so two ideologies that are very different from another are exactly the same."
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Sep 1, 2016 18:59
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Jack of Hearts posted:Do you know what a plane is? I guess you're right, horseshoe theory is kinda retarded.
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Sep 1, 2016 19:05
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The only practical application for horseshoe theory is as liberal propaganda.
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Sep 1, 2016 19:12
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I will be the commissar who works at your child's school. Hope she doesn't share any counter-revolutionary or bourgeois sentiments that she might pick up around the house.
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Sep 3, 2016 01:30
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnfioOtrBro
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Sep 7, 2016 03:29
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asdf32 posted:Heh yeah just skimmed his posts and saw that nonsense about how the US subjugates multiple internal nations. What an idiot. The US literally subjugates multiple internal nations.
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Sep 7, 2016 16:04
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The subjugated nations are the Indians not the states. Dixie was a subjugated nation too for a while but that was a good thing.
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Sep 7, 2016 16:58
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Not that it changes your argument, but the US waged a serious terror campaign against Cuba.
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Sep 8, 2016 02:49
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The Saurus posted:They're indigenous Americans, not "Indians" you loving bigot Aren't you British?
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Sep 8, 2016 12:52
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The US was the most barbarous world power of the Cold War period.
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Sep 8, 2016 14:54
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Holy poo poo, the old Dali Lama was a US asset?!
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Sep 10, 2016 02:38
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The goal of creating a utopia is in fact.. *researches diligently. Late nights in the library and long hours spent interviewing experts in multiple fields.* Very good!
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Sep 11, 2016 03:53
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I think the best strategy for the First World Left to pursue, is to utilize state power to transform private businesses into cooperatives. The state is a massive tool, and it shouldn't be rejected if you don't have to. Oh yeah for sure. Corporate Democracy is the obvious next fight for the economic left.
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Sep 18, 2016 15:04
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:If you guys are so concerned about achieving revolution in the first world, you could always ditch liberalism and become communists yourselves. All this talk about ecological collapse and refugee crises is where you're taking us right now, anyway.
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Sep 21, 2016 03:42
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Ultraleftism is extremely cool.
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Sep 21, 2016 04:03
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That is real cringey my dude.
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Sep 23, 2016 18:53
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Constant Hamprince posted:; he's spinning around the horseshoe so fast that his brain is in a quantum superposition of extremist politics and you can't tell if his next post is going to be 'eat the rich' or 'nuke the muslims' until you observe it. He's an extremely useful demonstration of why horseshoe theory is bullshit.
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Sep 23, 2016 23:39
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My irony is actually quite funny I can assure you that.
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Sep 26, 2016 14:15
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Constant Hamprince posted:Look man, you can't industrialize a nation without starving a few hundred thousand peasants and keeping millions more in a state of impoverished quasi-serfdom so you can use their agricultural surplus to pay for western machinery. Which is the liberal model for modern industrialization?
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Sep 29, 2016 02:34
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The early 20th century was an era of unprecedented barbarism and destruction, so the willingness to make a militarized industrial omelette was much more desperate than the situation for anyone in the global north today. Nowadays the primary problem is what we're doing to other people, and not what other people can do to us. The United States is mobilized to combat relatively insignificant threats, and we live in a farcical age. This is not wrong.
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Sep 30, 2016 12:18
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It seems to me like those people care deeply about ideology.
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Sep 30, 2016 12:31
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Different people have all sorts of ideas and this is a terrible dilemma.
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Oct 4, 2016 02:00
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Do we all believe that capitalism is a system?
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Oct 4, 2016 02:06
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Constant Hamprince posted:lol how's that working out for u Class is a description of the individual's relationship to how important economic and political decisions are made. There will be no class distinctions and therefor no class when everyone wields the same degree of control over political and economic decisions.
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Oct 6, 2016 01:05
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asdf32 posted:Right, the elite officers of United Fruit get whatever they want from the (capitalist) democratic state but the [elite] officers of "Collective Fruit", now with no competition and complete monopoly will definitely be held in check by the (socialist) democratic state. In a truly socialist system, the elite officers of Collective Fruit will be elected administrators and their decisions will subjected to approval by the worker's councils.
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Oct 6, 2016 01:08
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asdf32 posted:The part where officials are elected to represent the people is similar. So is that part where those officials are required to check the power of industry. In one system the checks may end there. The other system adds competition and consumer markets. Officials are not elected to check the power of industry under socialism. Administration of industry is chosen from the factory floor on up to manage all aspects of production according to the interests of the workers. The Kingfish fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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E: fuckin double post
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