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indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

I put the screw in the tuna

# ¿ Mar 3, 2017 13:14

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 23:08

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

my fav thing about Piss Pig is when tankies were saying he was secretly a CIA/US agent and that the anarchists/PPG were actually secretly allied with US interests

# ¿ Apr 5, 2017 13:06

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

I'm bitter that I can't get any Michael Parenti books on Kindle

# ¿ May 7, 2020 21:47

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

A4R8 posted:

It�s nuts how people can correctly infer JFK�s murder was inside job, but once you mention anything like that with 9/11...

idk if it was an inside job as much as it was along the lines of Pearl Harbor, where they almost certainly knew but allowed it to happen

e: what's a good leftist nonfiction book I should read that's available on Kindle

# ¿ May 13, 2020 21:49

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

do the Zapatistas sell/ship anything besides coffee? do they have a way for me to buy it from my internet-enabled telephone.

# ¿ May 15, 2020 21:19

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

http://exiledonline.com/elite-versus-elitny/

brilliant

# ¿ May 18, 2020 15:37

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

I'm reading Losurdo's War and Revolution and finding it very boring thus far

# ¿ May 18, 2020 23:11

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

fuckin, what

# ¿ May 19, 2020 04:39

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Not really sure why the topic of veganism always brings out the brainworms in leftists. If you believe in the liberation of people from capitalism, it's not that big of a stretch to also believe other sentient beings should also be liberated.

basically.

# ¿ May 19, 2020 16:59

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Lady Militant posted:

The roman empire "fell" and yet I born almost 2000 years after the latest time of death for the empire can still walk in it's halls of marble in Italy. The USSR collapsed 30 years ago and yet what it did still influences our beliefs/actions to this day. No empire rules forever.

the latest time for death of the empire is actually 14*jocks come out and give me a HUGE wedgie*

# ¿ May 20, 2020 17:29

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

GalacticAcid posted:

The distortion of the "no ethical consumption" slogan to mean "damage mitigation isn't worth pursuing and aggregated behavioral decisions do not matter at all" is an unfortunate development.

# ¿ May 20, 2020 23:05

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Ardennes posted:

People really need to read up on early Soviet political economy.

any recommendations

# ¿ May 24, 2020 02:51

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

lol he thinks Trump is gonna lose?

# ¿ May 28, 2020 20:45

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

card carrying member of the GAM

# ¿ Jun 2, 2020 00:45

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the manifesto has worked fine for 150 years and it will work for another 150

I think a lot of recent lib converts would be more open to a thread started by goons than to immediately diving into the manifesto. but I�m also an idiot. I�d just like to see more of the type of discussions that happen in this thread around the forum in general

# ¿ Jun 3, 2020 14:56

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

GalacticAcid posted:

Bernie Panders

# ¿ Jun 3, 2020 19:42

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

I wish I was more optimistic. I honestly don�t expect much to come from this unrest unfortunately

# ¿ Jun 5, 2020 16:23

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Trotsky more like Notsky

# ¿ Jun 8, 2020 20:48

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

I�m reading Parenti and boy does he care a lot about anti-Italian discrimination. like, a real lot. too much for me imo and I�m Italian

# ¿ Jun 9, 2020 16:24

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/BRRN_Fed/status/1270345660617891842?s=20
https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1270394250597994501?s=20
https://twitter.com/forstudentpower/status/1270394439752654848?s=20
https://twitter.com/aznbrutalistgrl/status/1270160850410766345?s=20

we had a tiny bit of success so i guess it's time to go for the throat of each other agan

I really hate this nonsense bullshit

smarxist posted:

https://twitter.com/Comfy_Times/status/1270018579170299906

this is funny though

# ¿ Jun 9, 2020 19:18

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

as someone who would still probably at least nominally identify as an anarchist, anarchists are the loving worst and I hate them

# ¿ Jun 9, 2020 22:49

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

does she think only �Westerners� like Lenin lol

# ¿ Jun 20, 2020 19:05

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Lightning Knight posted:

https://twitter.com/mydadisold/status/1274937865856847873?s=21

this is true. I've read theory about this

# ¿ Jun 22, 2020 16:15

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Ferrinus posted:

so if a capitalist pays you $4 (what it costs to keep you alive for that day) but has you spend that day making two hats (each of which took four hours to make), that second hat is surplus value. it's the difference between the value of your labor-power, and the use-value of your labor power. the capitalist isn't ripping you off or conning you - they're paying you exactly what your labor is "worth", no more and no less - but they are benefiting from the fact that value and use-value are totally different things, and that human labor is the ultimate source of all value. this is my favorite part of Capital

this makes it seem like they are ripping you off though, and what your labor created is "worth" double what you were paid. I assume I'm misunderstanding something

# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 20:45

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Ferrinus posted:

well i should note that they are not ripping you off on their own terms. they're fairly trading exchange value for equal exchange value (one hat for one toothbrush, one hat for one day's labor, one toothbrush for one day's labor), so, by the terms of the free market, no one is being cheated and no punishable wrong has been done. you have to start thinking about the creation of value and not just its exchange to see where and why there's a problem. put another way, you have to realize that it's at the point of production, not the point of exchange, that capitalists gain their profits - and that's why socialism can only happen by transforming the mode of production (seizing the factories and running them ourselves, for instance) rather than at the point of exchange (forcing the employers to pay us higher wages with more benefits in trade for our labor)

this was an important thing for marx to hammer out in capital's early chapters because he was trying to figure out where and how profit actually comes from, at all. like, how can two guys make a trade, and then one of them is richer ? it can't just be that one is ripping another off (i sell you something for $100 that should really only be worth $90) because while that surely happens sometimes it's impossible for everyone to be simultaneously doing it

thanks, I think I get it now

# ¿ Jun 23, 2020 21:37

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

are there any good leftist podcasts (don�t say chapo please)

# ¿ Jul 1, 2020 20:53

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

THS posted:

ok recommend me a communist podcast that is funny,

ok so Chapo�s out

# ¿ Jul 1, 2020 22:17

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Finicums Wake posted:

but, for many people, he's the first anti-imperialist they ever encounter, he writes clearly, and he points them to other sources, so i try not to poo poo on him too much

this was me when I was 16. I still think there's some value in his explanations of problems cause they're very thorough and easy to read, but his solutions are nonsense poo poo

# ¿ Jul 7, 2020 20:19

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Peanut President posted:

who was this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faurisson_affair#Petition_signed_by_Chomsky

# ¿ Jul 7, 2020 20:44

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

GalacticAcid posted:

https://twitter.com/sarma_aalia/status/1280977931091750915?s=21

🧠

Jesus

# ¿ Jul 9, 2020 04:21

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

people who like Stirner suck so bad in my experience

# ¿ Jul 9, 2020 21:47

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Homeless Friend posted:

why is stirner the only guy who gets this cartoon poo poo

cause he�s a cartoon

# ¿ Jul 9, 2020 21:55

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Doc Hawkins posted:

check out Memoirs Found in a Bathtub

this book is so insane

# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 16:52

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

GalacticAcid posted:

I liked these three chapters on anarchism by hobsbawm

http://www.ditext.com/hobsbawm/anarchists.html

just getting around to reading this now. and

quote:

The very [99] extremism of the anarchist rejection of state and organization, the totality of their commitment to the overthrow of the present society, could not but arouse admiration; except perhaps among those who had to be active in politics by the side of the anarchists, and found them almost impossible to work with. It is suitable that Spain, the country of Don Quixote, should have been their last fortress.

drat

# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 23:51

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

ToxicAcne posted:

I have to say that those Hobsbawm articles strike me as uncharitable and chauvinistic. Like he attributes the prevalence of Anarchism in Spain to the Spanish not being a "reading nation" or how he remarks on the lack of intellectuals in Spain. A large part of the Anarchist movement in Andalusia consisted of distributing reading materials explaining basic Scientific concepts such as evolution or physics or what have you to peasants. In fact a strong faith in the progressive powers of science was a key characteristic of the classical left, both Anarchist and Marxist (look at Kropotkin).

There's a kind of chauvinist Western Marxist perspective that is really distasteful and not at all useful for modern problems. You can't solve problems like the colonization of Indigenous peoples in settler states with that kind of outlook.

the bolded bit in particular is basically the same insult you see levied at a lot of anarchists today (mostly by Very Online MLs)

# ¿ Jul 14, 2020 00:21

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

dex_sda posted:

The fact they bothered to write one up and even respect it for two years suggests that the Soviets could have fought quicker.

this is a wild extrapolation to make about Soviet military strength. not to mention assuming that if the Soviets unilaterally steamrolled into Germany (by necessity, probably through Poland), Britain and France would have stayed out of it. the USSR had to prepare for a scenario where it'd be completely on its own

# ¿ Jul 15, 2020 00:09

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

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uncop posted:

I realized that lovely WW2 takes really get me nowadays because of the extreme disrespect baked into the narratives for countless people who decided to suffer for higher ideals and did literally nothing wrong. *That�s* why the difference of criminal war and war crimes is so important, supporting a criminal war effort makes one a useful idiot at best and a villain at worst. That�s why erasing dissidents is so messed up, it shits on people going to prison for opposing needless imperialist war and fascism. gently caress Stalin, gently caress the leadership, they are actually deep into a moral grey area instead of shining heroes that deserve a hundred times more respect than their attackers.

are you saying the people who defeated the nazis don�t deserve more respect than their attackers, the nazis

# ¿ Jul 15, 2020 15:53

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

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Enjoy posted:

Firstly, Germany was sending troops from one side of Europe to another for months after the fall of Poland. The entire time from October 1939 to July 1940 was good time to attack Germany.

Secondly, even looking just at the Battle of France, 6 weeks is a long time for military manoeuvres:

The Soviets could have been in Berlin before 6 weeks were up if they'd hit Germany when Fall Gelb began.

lol

# ¿ Jul 15, 2020 19:26

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 23:08

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

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Enjoy posted:

Counterpoint: the genocide campaign of the Nazis would not have happened

lol.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2020 20:59

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