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Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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That new thread smell.

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Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Endie posted:

In my defence that game did exist just only for about three hours every six months.

You're not taking TiDi into account, and those 3 hours actually took 62 hours of play time to actually happen.

Xolve fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Jan 26, 2016

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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balistafreak posted:

Find me a person who unironically enjoyed the mechanics of a huge, politics-fueled fleet fight and we'll find us a liar. I'm sure the schemers and diplomats are having their own version of fun, but the idea of being CTA'd for some big fight coming up and then having to sit through hours of TIDI "because it's important for the corp/alliance" is enough for me to never even consider applying to GSF proper. That, and I know from enough MMOs with goons that the average line goon is just as bad, if not worse, than a pubbie in terms of "how smart" and "how pleasant to be around".

Depends, if there's no TiDi, everyone in the winning fleet enjoyed it.

If there is TiDi, and Supers are dying, everyone killing supers enjoyed it.



Highsec is an interesting place, but most people get tired of taking candy from big dumb babies after a while and move on to more eventful things in-game (or other games).

Kimsemus posted:

I'm not sure about PL, but I know NCdot pretty much went all in. We didn't hold anything back and really had nothing left to throw into the fight.


By the time I had logged in (late US TZ) we were told not to login supers, and Phal had started tallying losses for reimbursement.

Anyone saying we weren't hosed from the moment Manny dropped sov is an idiot and a liar.

Xolve fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Feb 1, 2016

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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justsharkbait posted:

I still don't know why people think that though. Never once did I hear anything like "oh we got this boyz!!" It was understood we were hosed. PL may have been a bit.....overly optimistic, but I mean we knew what we were losing versus killing.

We killed Sort Dragon, for most of PL- that was enough.

Xolve fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Feb 2, 2016

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Unfunny Poster posted:

DUST 514 barely affected EVE, but it did have some stuff that affected things. Mostly in the Faction Warfare systems, but the assumption by players was that the PS3 had limitations to it etc. so that's why it was limited.

A PC version could be better suited towards what CCP wanted and proved is possible (to a degree), but who knows what the PC version will be designed like.

It only ever had any impact on FW areas because... some of those nerds took FW seriously enough to play a lovely console-based FPS to ensure certain systems never flipped (or flipped faster).

Most of the time, outside of highly contested systems however, it just didn't matter, at all- ever.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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crew posted:

Yes they utilize the same advanced participation metrics as PL = x amount of killmails per month or get out.

Why bother joining a PvP Alliance if you're not interested in PvP?

crew posted:

That slackchat is all Taylor Swift gifs, regurgitated 4 chan, 8 chan , 9gag memes and terrible pubbies vying for developer attention.

Well, a terrible pubbie is responsible for the Bastion modules for Marauders- what's the worst that could happen?

Wait- we know what that is- they get hired by CCP and we get to experience a newly defined variant of 'balanced'.

Xolve fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Feb 7, 2016

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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crew posted:

Well the problem in this case was: the dude was a pr0 logi pilot who joined mad pvp fleets but he either didnt fit a whoregun or get on enough mails. The system failed, he got earmarked for purging then he lost his poo poo and his titan.

To be fair, NC. is full of incompetents that don't really have any real 'enjoyment' from playing the game except to circlejerk about how loving awesome they are- in a nutshell it's just one group of idiots patting each other on the back about how much better they are than anyone else inside their own little safe space- besides, if you can just kick anyone out that points out that you're just as poo poo at EVE as just about everyone else in the goddamn game, nobody can rain on their parade.

I'd say that the leadership in smaller alliances (if your fleets never break 100 pilots on average, congratulations, this is you) should have a pretty decent understanding of who regularly volunteers to play space priest, stock doctrine ships/ammo/boosters, or do any of the other mind numbingly poo poo tasks keeping an alliance running entails; but thankfully- we have NC. to consistently point out how not to run an alliance, treat it's members, handle money moons or fly alliance tournament ships.



TL;DR Never trust anyone that says they're 'good at EVE'.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Khablam posted:

Mostly the people who will disagree here don't see their alliance as "a PVP alliance" but rather their alliance no matter what they want to do. If we want to go on fleets 12 hours a day for 6 months, then mine for 6 months we can, we don't have some shitlord saying we aren't playing the game right during period 2.


There's nothing wrong with doing whatever you want to do in game, honestly- the best thing you can do in EVE is find people interested in approaching the game in a fashion that aligns with yours.

Even in PL, despite being relatively space rich at the time, there were plenty of options to shoot red boxes, get a money moon, or play space trucker for alliance rewards.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Zasze posted:

Leaving drama free to join another space guild isn't gently caress goons , I remember when you had to actually do something to be gently caress goons but now it's aperently wanting to play a video game with who you want :psyduck:

Goonfucking is also speaking out against the kickstarter, SoE games, or having a rational opinion of zombie survival shooters.

What a time to be alive!

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Torpor posted:

The PL super fleet also makes sense to have on-line in case of an Imperium capital op or to act as a preventative measure hopefully ward off a capital escalation.

PL can flash form supers in minutes, the fact that they were already logged in means they weren't in fact 'setting up the trap' and we're online as a potential response/deter Imperium Supers.

The whole 'IT'S A TRAP' narrative is woefully stupid and misinformed.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Dalael posted:

Remember the last time 3000 nerds formed up out of the blue for a IHUB? Yeah, me neither.


crew posted:

Man there was some timers today but the most I seen out of ~the allies~ was 300

You don't say? It's almost as if Wednesdays are not holiday weekends.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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CommonShore posted:

I like cheese, chorizo, and green onion. Maybe black beans.

smoked gouda, cheddar, chorizo, chicken and green chili.

It's a west Texas thing.

e: Chips that don't need salsa are a plus.

Xolve fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Apr 7, 2016

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Landsknecht posted:

well kinda? It'll be less useful across the north where people tank against kin/therm for ratting, but if you want to afk cloak 23/7 you could probably end up with some kills

probably not as effective as camping a pipe gate with a sabre

You can poo poo on people in the South East with one, but... that's about it.

Crimewave posted:

I'll just leave this here.


:10bux: hey mami, you sexy :10bux:

Xolve fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Apr 10, 2016

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Nietzschean posted:

i built a rifter in saranen, eager to duel fools at the sun. no fatties pls.

I'm importing my honorable space viking ships tonight friend.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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CommonShore posted:

Even Xolve is being chill in here. That's good. Unchill guy should take that as an example.

I just got a bumping tutorial :kimchi:

I try to be chill in general, sorry my occasional 'no, but seriously...' post doesn't come across that way.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Nietzschean posted:

literally no one took me up on my offer today, so the rifter survives for dueling tomorrow.

I braved the wilds of Saranen local to import ships for honorable space combat with you.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Unfunny Poster posted:

You're forgetting that someone unironically claimed all the non-GSF Goons in the thread were making frivolous reports because we're not in GSF.

I don't think I've ever reported, or considered reporting anyone in the non-chill thread.

Some people provide insight and contribute to a discussion- others are an indictment to the public education system.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Nietzschean posted:

i was on fleets since this morning, but i am now chilling in saranen and ready whenever.

Oh, sorry, been cruising the vast wasteland of Branch, Tenal and Vale scooping up sweet firesales.

Bought a Nidhoggur for 23m isk because someone is bad at zeros.



Also- I think I used the slowest jump frieghter nerd in the history of EVE: Online. My poo poo is still not in Saranen. Heads will roll. /madpost

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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ChickenWing posted:

I'll buy it from you for 50m!

that's double what you paid! great deal!

Bought a boot archon with a yachtmach in the SMA for 1.7 (faction tank only- what is this? 'Yacht' lol).

2 Scimitars for 200, and a questionably fit rattlesnake for 220.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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ChickenWing posted:

I'll give you 100m for the lot

also join goon discord

link?

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Altran posted:

Ok I have been on pl.pl forum for my phorde spy (can you even call it a spy?), and I stumbled upon snigg public recruitment thread, one of the question that gets asked alot in there is to post a dread travel fit, and someone even went as far as saying none of the thread in the recruitment forum is correct. i am just curious, what is a correct dread travel fit? i think the inquirer didn't gave enough information , do i expect to travel with a group, or solo? am i using jump drive or star gates, etc...

When 'Dread Travel Fit' is called, it means 3 istabs and 2 hyperspatials.

When 'Cap Fit' is called, it means fill your mid and low slots with Cap Recharges and Cap Power Relays.

This is to ensure you're at jump cap once your fatigue reactivation timer goes away- this is called in situations where you're jumping to a mid to drop a super or something similar and there isn't a station to mid from (as docking resets your capacitor).



edit: been out of game for a while.

Xolve fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Apr 20, 2016

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Altran posted:

Thanks, are these practice used in Titan and Supers? For example, a fight is participated 10 AU away, there is 1 mid point with 1 station, Titan/Super is travelling with normal caps, are/should these Super caps usually also "travel fit"? Or the usual practice is wait for carriers to cap them up?

I have been in a few fleets and there is always a dude or two in Titans need capping up after everyone else is at jump cap, not sure if they are bad or super caps should have tank fitted in case of emergency.

Depends on the situation and how many people are traveling. Usually though Supers and Carriers cap up titans, then themselves, then jump when everyone's ready.

In a post-Phoebe world, that 5 minute reactivation timer helps immensely; as before if you couldn't manage to cap up in a timely manner with or without mindflood often you'd be left to fend for yourself until you were ready.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Altran posted:

I extracted my Nyx solo some times back, I have done like few gate jumps and few cynos. I wasn't shaking tho, was too busy trying to time my cynos to self-destruct. Please donate a Titan (Rag or Lev or Avatar please) so I can move that solo as well, and will record it for everyone's pleasure. :tia:

The most adrenalin I got was once I jumped my Rhea through a gate in null. After scouting the both systems clear, as I was mid warp with slowass Rhea, a wild red appeared in local, I spam scan, turns out he is in an interceptor. I panick, hoping I could jump through and warp off before he finds out which gate I am warping to and jump with me. I landed on a clear gate, mashing the jump button and see an interceptor landed just as the jumping animation ends, I spam warp to my POS, he decloaked just as my JF got up to 70% speed, may be he was in awe that a JF would take gates with no escort, he didn't lock+tackle me in the 2-3 seconds window, and I warped off. Never again.

It feels like that moment when you're barreling down a road, take a long curve, and see a cop- and you just know. You know you're getting pulled over. Then you don't. It's horrifying and liberating all at the same time.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Landsknecht posted:

it's even harder to catch carriers unless they're really dumb, but people STILL like to agress them, idgi

I'll shoot anything just to see what it does.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Hagop posted:

How do I tell if a system is gate camped?

Also is their some good all in one tool for eve. I would like a make a fit, see how much it cost to buy that fit, and get a skill plain for getting a char to the point where they can fly that fit.

This:



Find any fit on zkill you might want to import.



Click on the Meta tab



Pick the export option that works best for you, use 'EFT' under 'Lossy Formats' at the bottom (works for Pyfa as well)



Copy.



Paste


Note- the green skill book icon on the top right- Yay! I can fly this.


Note- the red skill book icon on the top right- gently caress! I'm missing skills.

BAM. If you have a character API for Pyfa (it just wants character sheet) it will tell you if any of the fits are unusable, the price of the fit is on the bottom right, and you can use CREST to export a fit you like directly to the game client, then open it in Jita and push 'Buy All'.

Xolve fucked around with this message at 02:37 on May 21, 2016

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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nessin posted:

You can export directly to EFT and other formats from zkillboard. It's literally the next option to the right in that first screenshot.

Oh drat, I've been doing it the other way forever.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Praise VideoGames, beacon of light for the wayward souls that still play spaceship games of a questionable quality.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Looking through the killboard it seems to me that tech 3 cruisers basically crush everything. Is that accurate?

Depends really.

Tech 3 armor cruisers are really well suited for destroying anything that uses large guns.

It's a slow fleet comp though, and doesn't really fit a roaming gang very well. Once you drop them, you're committed to the fight.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Kimsemus posted:

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=2807&b=7043170&e=1015&t=uaaruveaaeaqqe

Snuff Box just got ozoned, couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch. The dogpile was real since all of MBC reset them. :toot:

Cracks formed. K:DR Fixed.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Landsknecht posted:

I want a hel, but I can be in a fit wyvern for probably around 22b (because nobody wants them now)

Hel is unironically the best super now, which I never thought I'd say

Just sold both my Hels to TEST- gonna hold out for faction supers and get my hand on a Angels super- and live the nano-shield dream.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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nigga crab pollock posted:

this is dumb why would you say that

its the only thing that can fit 280s with a tank but most every insta lock thrasher has 280s

the huginn fits 720s and so does the hurricane, and you can fit 650s on p much anything.

a tempest can fit a full rack of 1400s w an armor tank dude. a maelstrom no but it has 8 hardpoints. there's also no shame in using 1200s because the stupid refire rate makes 1400s questionable afsometimes

Not to mention 3% PG implants are really, really cheap.

Also- Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5 is on of the most important fitting skills.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Reverand maynard posted:

mwd machs going 2km/s alphaing anything withing 250km, forever.

I *think* arty was last balanced around the time the entire meta was sniper BS.

There's been a few minor balance passes to Artillery fitting, but nothing ground breaking or meta changing.

I want to say the last time it was done was when the removed the penalties from T2 ammo.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Ynglaur posted:

I've wanted this for years. Expand the hacking mini game and make it possible to do things like skip a shield timer, or disable a customs office for a few hours, or change gate dynamics slightly.

I wish they did more with on-grid committed fleet battles than just having ships duke it out- deployable mini-structures with EWAR functionality would be cool, pulsing de-cloak devices... things like that.

They'd have to put in a shitload of NOUSE code to stop them from breaking PvE or returning negative integers in wormholes probably, but maybe it would make fleet combat more interesting.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Ynglaur posted:

That's a cool idea.

I had a F&I draft on my old computer (from when I actually played EVE) that outlined a few ideas:

Something that attracted missiles/gunfire (by type) like a gravitron pulse structure, or something GRIMDARK like that.
Bomb decoys / Short duration pulse resist structure (bomb defense)
Anchorable EWAR that affected the entire grid, and everyone on it.
A 5 strength warp-jammer, that worked similar to mobile cyno inhibs.
Decloaking pulse emitter thing thing.

They'd have to do an amount of theorycrafting around these that I don't think they're capable of, I'd want them in W-Space but I don't know how poorly they'd interact with WH mechanics and they'd obviously need to be restricted into how many you could deploy on a single grid (like, one of each type, maybe just one?). Of course, they'd also have to be priced at a point that they'd actually be worth using.

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Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

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Ynglaur posted:

But then they need to take the next step and implement some of the ideas.

Seems like :effort:, :effort: they could spend making more skins- that you know- earn them money.

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