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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
WHERE CAN I WATCH THIS?

http://www.c-span.org/ will have coverage throughout the night

In addition, these streaming sites often show the cable networks, which will be covering it.

http://www.livenewschat.eu/
http://www.stream2watch.co/live-tv/us/
http://www.hulkusc.com/

Please suggest in the thread any other streams.

OFFICIAL RESULTS

https://www.iagopcaucuses.com/#/state

https://www.idpcaucuses.com/#/state

IRC

https://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=EU.synirc.net%3A%2B7001&channel=%23Poligoon

REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES

  • , Governor of Florida
  • , Neurosurgeon
  • , Governor of New Jersey
  • , Senator from Texas
  • , former CEO of HP
  • Jim Gilmore, Governor of Virginia
  • , Governor of Arkansas
  • , Governor of Ohio
  • , Senator from Kentucky
  • , Senator from Florida
  • , Senator from Pennsylvania
  • , Constitutionally Eligible

REPUBLICAN PROCESS

Voters must be a resident of Iowa and a registered member of the Republican Party. You can register or switch registration at the precinct if you have a photo ID and second proof of address.

During the caucus, a supporter of each candidate may give a short nominating speech. After the speeches, voting is conducted by secret ballot. Following the voting, the caucus chooses delegates for the county caucuses on March 12. This year, for the first time, delegates to the national convention will be proportionally bound to vote for candidates on the first ballot based on the outcome of the precinct-level voting.

30 delegates are proportionally allocated to Presidential contenders based on the statewide vote. Each candidate receives (candidate's statewide vote) × 30 ÷ (total statewide vote) delegates. Round fractions to the nearest whole number. If there are too few delegates allocated, the candidate nearest the rounding threshold receives the additional delegate. If too many delegates are allocated, the candidate furthest the threshold looses a delegate.

Full explanation here.

DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES

  • , Secretary of State
  • , Governor of Maryland
  • , Senator from Vermont

DEMOCRATIC PROCESS

Voters must be a resident of Iowa and a registered member of the Democratic Party. You can register or switch registration at the precinct. You will not need to show ID.

During the caucus, a supporter of each candidate may give a short nominating speech. After the speeches, voting is conducted by having supporters of each candidate stand in a different corner of the room. You may also choose to stand with "uncomitted" people as a group. Supporters are then counted. Any group with less than 15% of the total participants in the caucus is declared non-viable and those supporters may choose to stand with a different group. During this choosing, members of the viable groups have an opportunity to lobby and entice the non-viable supporters to join them, typically through yelling and chants. The count is then conducted again until all groups are viable.

NOTE: Estimates will, of course, be made by media outlets as well as by the campaigns of the presidential contenders themselves as to how many of Iowa's 52 National Convention delegates each presidential contender is likely to be ultimately be receiving as a result of the Iowa caucuses but, of course, since no National Convention delegates are actually being chosen by these caucuses, all such estimates will almost certainly, come the District Conventions in April and the State Convention in June, be wrong!!

At each caucus, each presidential contender who fails to get at least 15 percent support among the participants in the initial balloting after a period of discussion will be considered "non-viable" and all supporters of such "non-viable" presidential contenders will then be required to join in the support of presidential contenders who have remained "viable". To determine the viability of a presidential contender, multiply the number of eligible caucus attendees by the percentages below and round to the nearest whole number. This is the minimum number of delegates needed for the contender to remain viable.

- 50% (majority vote) for caucuses electing 1 delegate.
- 25% (one quarter) for caucuses electing 2 delegates.
- 16.66...% (one sixth) for caucuses electing 3 delegates.
- 15% for caucuses electing 4 or more delegates.

Here's the full delegate selection plan. My advice is to not try to understand it. The number of delegates from each precinct caucus will be transmitted to the state party which will announce which candidates have won which of the 1,406 delegates to the county conventions.

In addition to the 44 delegates which will later be assigned at the district and state conventions, there are 8 party leader delegates who will attend the national convention.

Joementum has issued a correction as of 00:26 on Feb 2, 2016

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Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



:munch:

Bernie gon' win.

Also Trump is gonna blow the whole thing up.

Mrit
Sep 26, 2007

by exmarx
Grimey Drawer
It will be Hillary and Cruz, and the meltdowns will be bountiful and wonderful.

Franco Potente
Jul 9, 2010

Mrit posted:

It will be Hillary and Cruz, and the meltdowns will be bountiful and wonderful.

Quoting this for emphasis.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Mrit posted:

It will be Hillary and Cruz, and the meltdowns will be bountiful and wonderful.

If you're sure about Cruz you should hop on PredictIt post-haste.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
I'm calling a narrow Sanders win in terms of overall support, but Hillary will probably get the most delegates.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

I'm skeptical that Trump will actually win this, but I'll keep an eye on the caucus to see what happens. As I said in the other thread, I think Rubio's polling position will be much more interesting in the long-run. If he does badly enough, maybe we'll see Kasich get his turn in the establishment spotlight, or maybe Bush will get a chance again.

Hillary is going to destroy Sanders.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Vox Nihili posted:

I'm calling a narrow Sanders win in terms of overall support, but Hillary will probably get the most delegates.

The fun part of that prediction is that the first part isn't falsifiable.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Mrit posted:

It will be Hillary and Cruz, and the meltdowns will be bountiful and wonderful.

I can dream

Donald Trump
Jan 31, 2016

by exmarx
Iowa won't let me down. Iowa loves me and I love Iowa. USA! USA!

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
I was going to write this OP tonight. I had millions of brilliant ideas. It was going to be full of hilarious jokes. But Joementum got there first.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Pinterest Mom posted:

The fun part of that prediction is that the first part isn't falsifiable.

Well it'll certainly be falsified in the case of a Hillary landslide, but yeah, a close result will basically be a question mark. Caucuses are loving dumb.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
CAUCUS RESULTS VIEWING INSTRUCTIONS


In case of Hillary win, play this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8


In case of Bernie win, play this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x72w_69yS1A


In case of O'Malley win, play this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5ZiyxguUvc

Minsky
May 23, 2001

I'm posting here early to say I think Bernie will do okay but not great because I'm gonna be too busy melting down to do it tomorrow night

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
What are you drinking for tomorrow

we need a bernie drink which sounds really great but ends up in sad disappointment that is socialism

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Vox Nihili posted:

I'm calling a narrow Sanders win in terms of overall support, but Hillary will probably get the most delegates.

gently caress it, retracting this. Bernie edges the whole thing, dammit.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

quote:

2. Skunk River Arms Gun Shop -- Hayesville, Iowa

Republican Iowans caucusing in this town of about 50 can buy a gun at their precinct if so desired. That's because they're voting at a gun shop with an inventory of 1,200 firearms.

"The more people you can get to caucus, the better off the country is," said owner Dan Glandon.
...

quote:

7. Jimi B’s Bar and Grill -- Bernard, Iowa

Some caucuses take place in restaurants, and for Democrats voting in Jackson County, they’ll be voting at this rural hot-spot. Joey Olson, the manager of Jimi B’s, said this is the second time the bar has participated.

Olson said they’ll be open for business while voting takes place, so Iowans can enjoy homemade pizza and other delicious bar food.

Yawgmoft
Nov 15, 2004

There is an alternate reality where MOM is completely crushing this primary by ripping off his shirt and playing Cash at press events/debates but unfortunately for our world the people running his campaign are sticks in the mud.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009


Playing Bad Blood in a dig at Katy Perry endorsing HRC is 💯

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Land of the Free

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Yawgmoft posted:

There is an alternate reality where MOM is completely crushing this primary by ripping off his shirt and playing Cash at press events/debates but unfortunately for our world the people running his campaign are sticks in the mud.

MOM and Trump getting into an actual fight would be the best thing.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Thump! posted:

MOM and Trump getting into an actual fight would be the best thing.

Martin would snap his limbs off, lmao

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

lol @ democratic caucus process

mildly subdued lol @ republican caucus process because it's clearly a stepping stone to the ultimate goal of replacing caucuses (caucii?) with primaries

i think trump will win by 5-10%, so no big surprise there, and rubio's finish, whether it's a close third or a second place that's humiliating for cruz, will be the bigger story as we roll on to see whether the plurality of republicans who oppose trump's candidacy will coalesce behind a single candidate, give up their inhibitions and join the racist populist fun, or do something even more ineffectual
but i dunno poo poo

on the other side probably hillary gets more delegates than bernie? but it's almost purposefully too confusing to matter and by the time iowa's actual delegates get picked events in other states will have overtaken them.

so, setting aside literal wins and speaking of the effect of the results: even if bernie wins 80% of the shits that are given, it'd only slightly affect matters imo since he almost certainly wins nh anyway. he'll have momentum at that point unless things are really disastrous for him and we'll see if the momentum helps him change the stereotype that he can only win liberal whites because the SEC super tuesday primaries are a huge test for that hypothesis

but gently caress it. buttfuck it

oystertoadfish has issued a correction as of 01:14 on Feb 1, 2016

Senf
Nov 12, 2006

Third World Reggin posted:

we need a bernie drink which sounds really great but ends up in sad disappointment that is socialism

Any kind of pumpkin beer.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

oystertoadfish posted:

mildly subdued lol @ republican caucus process because it's clearly a stepping stone to the ultimate goal of replacing caucuses (caucii?) with primaries


it's not. iowa is a caucus in order to prevent a conflict with new hampshire. new hampshire law says it must be the first state in the nation to have a primary. iowa only needs to have the first presidential preference by 8 days, so iowa runs a caucus so that both states don't have mutually contradicting laws.

iowa can never move to a primary system without losing its first in the nation status.

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

drat you MOM, stop making me like you! I KNOW WHAT YOU DID IN BALTIMORE

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Concerned Citizen posted:

it's not. iowa is a caucus in order to prevent a conflict with new hampshire. new hampshire law says it must be the first state in the nation to have a primary. iowa only needs to have the first presidential preference by 8 days, so iowa runs a caucus so that both states don't have mutually contradicting laws.

iowa can never move to a primary system without losing its first in the nation status.

Sure they can, they just need the RNC to side with them over NH. The NH state law is a signal of the state's passion for being first, but the only person bound by it is the NH Secretary of State.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Joementum posted:

Sure they can, they just need the RNC to side with them over NH. The NH state law is a signal of the state's passion for being first, but the only person bound by it is the NH Secretary of State.

Sure, the parties could change anything if they wanted - up to and including ending IA/NH's dominance. But NH would not be likely to go along with Iowa moving to a primary unilaterally, and they would end up in a frontloading war.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

Concerned Citizen posted:

it's not. iowa is a caucus in order to prevent a conflict with new hampshire. new hampshire law says it must be the first state in the nation to have a primary. iowa only needs to have the first presidential preference by 8 days, so iowa runs a caucus so that both states don't have mutually contradicting laws.

iowa can never move to a primary system without losing its first in the nation status.

correct - which explains why iowa, unlike other traditional caucus states like colorado, wyoming, and north dakota, has reacted in such subdued fashion to this undermining of the caucus process. those other three states have offered up some form of revolt against the gop national party's decision to make the former 'straw poll' the only meaningful delegate-defining portion of the whole byzantine process, but iowa, for the reasons you state, has to put up with this neutered redefinition of a caucus to retain its status, if only temporarily

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Concerned Citizen posted:

Sure, the parties could change anything if they wanted - up to and including ending IA/NH's dominance. But NH would not be likely to go along with Iowa moving to a primary unilaterally, and they would end up in a frontloading war.

What's New Hampshire going to do about it after the RNC strips their delegates?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Where is nocartax.jpg??

Minsky
May 23, 2001

this is my meltdown soundtrack if Hillary wins in Iowa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dcfpH8oJoM

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





HILAARY YAAAAAAAS!


gnight I'm going to sleep

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Pinterest Mom posted:

What's New Hampshire going to do about it after the RNC strips their delegates?

Honestly, nobody campaigns in NH/IA for the delegates so even if they were stripped they would probably still retain enormous power. It would probably take some other, harsher kind of penalty.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
The other barrier to changing from a caucus to a primary is that primaries are paid for by the state, so you have to convince the legislature to set aside a couple million to administer a special election, or hold it late in the spring to coincide with legislative primaries.

Caucuses are paid for by the parties and are a good opportunity for them to build their local organizations.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
I'm surprised Iowans like their caucus since in Nevada it's a near-clusterfuck, was only introduced to save money, and works against a lot of working people (especially soldiers which is a big deal when you consider the number of Air Force bases and poo poo out in the desert.)

It's even worse on the GOP side since the party apparatchik have to struggle to raise enough representation to not keep the gold standard crowd from punching above their weight and taking over.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


lol at the PLEASE GOD NO REPUBLICANS turnout at the 08 dem caucus

code:
Iowa Caucus Voter Turnout
	Rep	Dem
2004	--	23%
2008	21%	40%
2012	20%	--

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
May the corn be with you.


Always.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Its not even monday yet. you just can't contain yourself, OP

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Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

blue squares posted:

Its not even monday yet. you just can't contain yourself, OP

It's Monday. The caucus is happening right now. You're missing it! Hurry!

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