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Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday
Honestly you can't claim to be left wing unless you are literally Marx.

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hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
It seems like being really stupid in one area sets you up really well to be really loving stupid in other areas.



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Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
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Jumpingmanjim posted:

Weather bureaus have changed. They are no longer invisible organisations where avuncular bureaucrats use basic computers to deliver dodgy forecasts. Today’s weather bureaucrats are visible, sophisticated and ideological. But, despite a huge investment in supercomputers, their record for accurate forecasts remains dismal.

Their mission has expanded to include climate change advocacy, where agnostics are left in no doubt that significant weather abnormalities are evidence of global warming. They tinker with raw data but give inadequate explanation as to why. Their terrestrial records diverge increasingly with satellite and radiosonde datasets. Confidence in their integrity has been called into question.

Today’s bureaus have become climate change citadels. Their records are the repository of the Holy Grail. Regardless of doubts about their accuracy, they are protected. Hundreds of billions of dollars annually, including huge international transfer payments and tens of thousands of highly paid jobs, may depend on keeping records away from prying eyes.

Last August, a BBC Radio 4 program called What’s the Point of the Met Office? detailed the British agency’s history of dud predictions and its role as a parliamentary lobbyist. Rather than wait for an official complaint, the BBC issued a full-blown apology for “giving voice to climate-change sceptics” and “for failing to make it clear that they are a minority voice out of step with the scientific consensus”. According to program host Quentin Letts, Roger Harrabin, the BBC’s environment analyst, “went nuts” that the program was aired. Later, several BBC officials were required to undertake online training with a “substantial scenario on reporting climate-change science”.

Across the Atlantic, the US house science committee is conducting an investigation into the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, a $6 billion-a-year government weather service, seeking access to internal deliberations around a groundbreaking climate change study. Amid allegations that the NOAA attempted to shape and direct the committee’s oversight, chairman Lamar Smith demanded to see thousands of emails that he thinks will show that by homogenising temperature records, researchers were able to refute claims that global warming over the past decade had paused. He accused the agency of altering the data to “get the results they needed”.

Whistleblower allegations say the NOAA “rushed to publication over the objections of numerous scientists at the agency”. The NOAA has refused to hand over the emails.

Australia has its own concerns with homogenisation. Blogger Joanne Nova has reported on it for years. Scientist Jennifer Marohasy has been persistent in seeking answers to why perfectly good raw data is manipulated to turn a cooling trend into a warming one.

Auditor Ken Stewart studied thousands of Bureau of Meteorology records and demonstrates it has a case to answer. The response is to stonewall and, when information is released, to offer no means of replication. Data is converted into vague probabilities that, when technically correct, are still often meaningless. Weather agencies stand accused of a culture of “snowing” sceptics.

When then prime minister Tony Abbott wanted to establish a taskforce to investigate the bureau’s temperature dataset and other related records, the cabinet, Environment Minister Greg Hunt and his department all came to the bureau’s aid by watering down the proposal and setting up a panel approved by the BoM to “strengthen governance oversight”.

Hunt said: “In doing this, it is important to note that public trust in the bureau’s data and forecasts, particularly as they relate to bushfires and cyclones, is paramount.”

It is good to have friends in high places. Better not to know that the bank’s books have been fiddled in case the market loses confidence.

At least American taxpayers have a champion in Lamar Smith, who complained to the US Commerce Secretary that the NOAA’s top officials had “obstructed” his committee’s oversight role. He said NOAA had refused voluntarily and under subpoena to hand over critical information. “It is the end product of exchanges between scientists — the detailed understanding of scientific work that underpins the authors’ findings,” he said.

The scientists argue that Smith is setting a dangerous precedent of interfering with independent scientific work.

Australian weather officials seem to share NOAA’s views. They reject full transparency in the face of informed criticism of their work. Stonewalling, and appeals to authority, are the defence. In any other field this would be a scandal.

Is the BoM’s methodology commercial in confidence or do taxpayers, who pay more than $300 million a year for this agency, have a right to know?

Confidence in weather bureaus will continue to decline until the world is finally satisfied through thorough independent investigation and audit that the vital records over which they exercise monopoly control are the result of a scientifically rigorous, replicable process. Nothing has changed since 2009, when John Theon, retired chief of NASA’s Climate Processes Research Program and responsible for all weather and climate research, testified “scientists have manipulated the observed data to justify their model results”. Complaining about lack of transparency, he said: “It is contrary to the way science is done.”

Memo to Australia’s Auditor General: There is an urgent job to be done.
Whoever wrote this is a crank. I'm guessing someone from newscorp.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

*makes heart shape with hands*

OK that's enough for one day, let's get back to cutting welfare.

Goffer
Apr 4, 2007
"..."

hooman posted:

It seems like being really stupid in one area sets you up really well to be really loving stupid in other areas.



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Can they catch him and put him in a PNG torture camp forever? That would be swell.

Mad Katter
Aug 23, 2010

STOP THE BATS

hooman posted:

It seems like being really stupid in one area sets you up really well to be really loving stupid in other areas.



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Oh my god, please attempt to do this.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001



Our ~secular~ society.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

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So Roosh is not going to be in Sydney but Canberra instead this weekend apparently. Canberra goons you should have a steady supply of explosives from fireworks stores, please do the needful.

Snod.
Oct 3, 2014

Taking a boat to Canberra, the only choice.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

Birb Katter posted:

So Roosh is not going to be in Sydney but Canberra instead this weekend apparently. Canberra goons you should have a steady supply of explosives from fireworks stores, please do the needful.

Wow really? Two birds with one stone. Same day as the Reclaim Australia rally.

edit. lol, so he's going to go from Broome to Canberra?

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Fireworks were banned years ago due to the meddling of the RSPCA.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

open24hours posted:

Fireworks were banned years ago due to the meddling of the RSPCA.

By "meddling", do you mean doing their job of preventing unnecessary animal cruelty and harm?

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

If they were interested in that they'd be trying to get pets banned altogether.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

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open24hours posted:

Fireworks were banned years ago due to the meddling of the RSPCA.

Is mining legal in Canberra? of course it is

Maybe get some c4 from a mine site then

#terehABC posted:

Return of Kings 'legal rape' creator 'Roosh V' hasn't applied for visa, Peter Dutton says

A man who believes rape should be legalised has not applied for a visa, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says, despite 'Roosh V' confirming plans to visit Canberra this weekend.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

open24hours posted:

If they were interested in that they'd be trying to get pets banned altogether.

Yes, because house pets are true cruelty, unlike the peaceful happy lifestyle that feral cats and dogs exist in. Are you suggesting owning a pet is cruel or harmful to them.

G-Spot Run
Jun 28, 2005

Birb Katter posted:

No Visa application

Hell yes, called it this morning. Why bother actually planning a trip to Australia when you can trick the media into squawking about you for free

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Mad Katter posted:

Oh my god, please attempt to do this.

Why? He'd just be getting his legal rape utopia.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Zenithe posted:

Yes, because house pets are true cruelty, unlike the peaceful happy lifestyle that feral cats and dogs exist in. Are you suggesting owning a pet is cruel or harmful to them.

I'm suggesting that the culture of pet ownership results in unnecessary harm to animals.

1. Some pet animals are harmed.
2. If there were no pet animals that harm could not occur.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Say no to dogs.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

Say no to cats.

Dogs are alright as long as it's the First Dog, after that it gets worse.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

open24hours posted:

I'm suggesting that the culture of pet ownership results in unnecessary harm to animals.

1. Some pet animals are harmed.
2. If there were no pet animals that harm could not occur.

Same but with humans.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Can someone please post the BOM article for the 6th time thx

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

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Laserface posted:

Can someone please post the BOM article for the 6th time thx

BOMB ARTICLE posted:



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#~<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>~#
#~<>->>Jolly Roger's Cookbook Version III Dated 11/09/1990!!!<<-<>~#
#~<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>~#
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Hello! Welcome to the Jolly Roger's Cookbook III! I hope that
this collection of text files has enough info to keep you hackers
busy for awhile (at least until the next update!). As I gather
information I will keep adding it and uploading it to my "home
base" bbs's in different cities with additional numbered files,
and an updated index that you can just replace the old one with.

Thanks for taking the time to read this file, by the way. There are
a few things that I want to say about the Cookbook.

1) If I ever find out that anyone has omitted my name from
anywhere in these files withoutmy expressed permission, then I
will immediately stop doing any updates and I will release your
name to as many boards that I can find, urging them to put you on
their Black List. I also, will FIND YOU! (I think you can see from
the knowledge base contained in this collection that I DO possess
the capability! You will wish it were the FEDS and not me!) In
other words, be careful who you give this collection to. Of,
course there are idiots (probably the same ones who write
viruses!) that will misuse this information and kill some people
or get themselves & you into a lot of trouble! So keep this
treasure chest buried and only dig it up for those that you can
TRUST! Also you would be screwing yourself, because I still have
all kinds of things that I can put in here for updates, and you will
NEVER see them if I quit updating because of some rear end in a top hat. So
think about it. If you WANT the updates (info you would probably
have a helluva time finding elsewhere!), then STAY COOL with it.

2) I was going to encrypt these files and load/print them from
within an encrypted program. However, I have decided against that
for these reasons:

a) It would then be machine-exclusive
b) It would show that I don't trust you.
c) Only Atari ST users would ever see it.

So I decided on keeping it ASCII. ANY machine that can read ASCII
files can now read these.

3) Please do not use my handle to gain access to boards. you never
know where I might show up and I will have to find you and deal
with you if I ever see it. Don't make me do this.

4) By releasing this database I am taking a real chance on you
people. I sure as hell don't want MY house blown up with a paint or
Solidox bomb! And I am sure that you don't want yours blown up
either (or your credit cards used for tha matter). So I have to
stress again: BE loving CAREFUL WHO YOU GIVE THIS TO!!

That is all for now. If I ever have to update this, it will just be
in the update archive as file 000.doc. Just replace the old one.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=Notes for Version 2.0=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Ok... here it is... long awaited v2.0.... what a bitch it was for me to
put this poo poo together. Hell, over 6 months to put the update poo poo
together. Anyway, response was cool, nobody hosed with the rulez above.
I am glad. This allows me to continue the updates. You should find it
worth the wait.

God, there is so much more to do. As you can probably see, this database
is getting quite huge. And I have not even begun to tap the resources I
have available to me. I can easily over the next year or so make this
thing grow to 1600k or more..... so as long as I DON'T find this on a
p/d bbs, and I DO see it being spread around the proper channels, as
LONG as you guys keep bugging me for an update, and finally, as long as
the rulez above are kept,I shall continue.

What you have in your disk drive right now is some of the most dangerous
knowledge ever unleashed on the computer underground. Use it wisely.
The really JUICY stuff will come in Cookbook v3.0, but let's see how
this one goes across, shall we? The Blotto box should be enough to see
how responsible you all are.....................

Have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enjoy this database! A lot more to come!!! -----------The Jolly Roger

note to all warring pirates and the so-called "groups"
(You know who you are...):

gently caress YOU! You are all assholes. Acting like loving babies like trading
software was your loving life or something. Like you have some big name
or something. Do you realize that nobody gives a flying gently caress about you
in the real world? I have been a pirate for over 10 years, and have over
4000 ST programs, over 2000 IBM programs, over 2500 Macintosh programs,
and over 500 Amiga programs (& I do not even own an Amiga!).... and you
do not see me kissing rear end on the bbs's, or making a deal out of someone
not "liking" me..... boo-loving-hoo!! I really do not care. You see,
the difference between you and me is that I do this for fun. I see no
other reason to pursue a "hobby" but FOR fun. I hate the loving
politics & poo poo. I give my stuff freely. It all comes back to me.
It just makes me sick when I am on the bbs's and I see these little baby
games about who did what, and who stole what loader, or re-crack, or
whatever. I AM AN original pirate. 1st generation. Not anything like you
baby-poo poo assholes. Excuse me but I had this boiling in me for a long
time. The ST world is so small that what little we do have we destroy
from within. And we blame Jack for it. gently caress, maybe that is the only
thing we agree on. Anyway, where is the hacking spirit? The giving? The
free will? Why all of the loving ego's? It should be obvious by now
that I have no interest whatsoever in ego-tripping. You can like me or
hate me. But I will always be here. --------------Jolly Roger

*****************************************************************
******************** Notes for Version III! *********************
*****************************************************************

Ah..version III. Well, I never thought for a minute that version
II would turn out to be so popular! Well, I am proud to announce
version III, and can assure you that a version IV is in the works!
As a student, however, I cannot say when it will be ready...but
what the hell...it will be a long time, I am sure, before you run
out of "toys" to play with.

Lots of interesting new reading for you in this version! A Special
thanks to CREDITMAN, who lives in the UK and contributed an
excellent article on carding in the UK. It is great reading.

Now, I would like to say a few words to those who insist on
yanking my chain (or is it dick?) in the message bases here in the
U.S.: "Whatever, dudes!"

Now that was a few words, eh? Ok, I am debating on a new format
for Cookbook IV...something with easier access. Hell, this index
idea worked just fine when the cookbook was small, but now it is
getting quite large and the articles are getting quite
numerous...and--who knows? My laziness tells me to stick with it.
I just might do that!

Well, the files spilled over onto two disks, so I figured I would
include some ST-specific "goodies". They are in a file on disk B
called "Goodie.Bag" and contain a few rarities and a few
essentials. Some will find most interesting, most will find some
interesting, a few may find none interesting. Oh, well.

If anybody has any comments (there always is a few slags--take
your best shot!) then drop me a line in the usual places that one
can find me. If you do not know where those places are, then I am
sorry. It just wasn't meant to be. Ha Ha!

All who oppose me and my ideas and/or the group that I participate
in can bugger off. Sure, yeah, I steal a lot of things--I am a
pirate after all. but so do you, and don't forget it. It is
ridiculous to call a thief a thief when it is a thief doing the
accusing. Grow up. This Cookbook is done for no other reason but
to share with EVERYONE ELITE some of the underground and often
illegal as hell information that I have gathered, researched, and
labored to locate, type, and write/compose. At least give me
credit for that. Anyone whom I call rear end in a top hat deserves it in my eyes
for only one reason: there is not ONE drat THING redeeming that I
can find to compliment them on!! For example, Automation slagged
me for the R.C.A Slag Show II, I turned around and told them to
piss off on that, and then said that their cd's are getting
better. What kind of "kid" (a 24 year old one) would do that
anyway? Certainly not the TOI, that's for sure! Oh, well, gently caress it
anyways. We are all going to die in Iraq soon enough anyway....-

Enjoy and spread! Contribute if you can! Information should be
free (that's why I turned down an offer to publish portions of
this thing!)!!

----------------------Jolly Roger

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

open24hours posted:

I'm suggesting that the culture of pet ownership results in unnecessary harm to animals.

Yes, because my cat, who isn't exposed to ticks, cars, FIV, starvation, random kids, further pregnancies like she was before she was rescued is being caused unnecessary harm.

I must be such a bastard, along with every other responsible pet owner.

Mad Katter
Aug 23, 2010

STOP THE BATS

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Why? He'd just be getting his legal rape utopia.

50/50 on that or being cast adrift in an orange life boat and never heard from again.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Zenithe posted:

Yes, because my cat, who isn't exposed to ticks, cars, FIV, starvation, random kids, further pregnancies like she was before she was rescued is being caused unnecessary harm.

I must be such a bastard, along with every other responsible pet owner.

That's not the argument I'm making.

Your cat probably wouldn't even exist, and wouldn't have had to have been rescued from further harm, if it weren't for the culture of pet ownership.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

open24hours posted:

Your cat probably wouldn't even exist, and wouldn't have had to have been rescued from further harm, if it weren't for the culture of pet ownership.

What with cats being a notoriously fragile species, that struggles to survive in the Australian ecosystem.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

No, but your cat is almost certainly descended from pet cats.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

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Just to make sure this page hits the ASIO bingo, we've already got bomb instructions so I'm going to wage a JIHAD for ALLAH on PARLIAMENT.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

open24hours posted:

No, but your cat is almost certainly descended from pet cats.

Seeing as many Australian strays are descended from those let loose to catch mice back in the 1800s, I have no idea what you are basing your claim on.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Do you think it's likely that your cat is descended from cats brought here, not as pets, in the 1800s, with no interbreeding with pet or former-pet cats in the intervening period?

Even if that is the case I don't see how it's relevant. I think the argument you're trying to make is that the suffering incurred by some pet animals is negligible compared to the benefits they provide to their owners, and that the suffering is something we're going to have to accept if we want to benefit from their company. That's probably an arguable position, but it's a separate argument.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

I cant even make out what the hell you're trying to advocate here.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Bring back fireworks.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

open24hours posted:

Bring back fireworks.

Even ignoring the fact that fireworks regularly cause dogs to literally die, I'm surprised you would think they are environmentally acceptable either.


open24hours posted:

Do you think it's likely that your cat is descended from cats brought here, not as pets, in the 1800s, with no interbreeding with pet or former-pet cats in the intervening period?

Even if that is the case I don't see how it's relevant. I think the argument you're trying to make is that the suffering incurred by some pet animals is negligible compared to the benefits they provide to their owners, and that the suffering is something we're going to have to accept if we want to benefit from their company. That's probably an arguable position, but it's a separate argument.

Firstly, I have no no idea. Until you can demonstrate my cats lineage, neither do you. Secondly, it was a response to your previous post where you said this:


open24hours posted:

No, but your cat is almost certainly descended from pet cats.

Thirdly, I have only made points regarding animal welfare, never once the benefits to humans. When your hatred of kittens reaches the point where you start making up claims to attack them, then it's probably time to throw in the towel.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

I don't hate kittens and I didn't attack them. I said that the existence of pets enables their suffering. Do you think that something that doesn't exist is capable of suffering, or do you think that the suffering of pets is necessary?

SadisTech
Jun 26, 2013

Clem.

open24hours posted:

existence enables suffering

wow man that's deep


e: You know the more I think about it, the more I love that you're literally arguing "X exists, therefore X can suffer, therefore X should not exist" which, if you follow the logic, implies that nothing capable of suffering should exist. End all life higher than bacteria FTW

SadisTech fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Feb 2, 2016

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
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open24hours posted:

I don't hate kittens and I didn't attack them. I said that the existence of pets enables their suffering. Do you think that something that doesn't exist is capable of suffering, or do you think that the suffering of pets is necessary?

Hmmmm wow man this is fascinating poo poo. I'm sure you've opened a lot of peoples eyes about the nature of pets, here.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

open24hours posted:

I said that the existence of pets enables their suffering.

House pets suffer less (in the vast majority of cases) than feral animals, which exist in their thousands in this country. How about you address issues in the real world instead of some weird alternate reality you are considering where pets aren't and never have been a thing.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

I thought it was pretty obvious too.

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open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Zenithe posted:

House pets suffer less (in the vast majority of cases) than feral animals, which exist in their thousands in this country. How about you address issues in the real world instead of some weird alternate reality you are considering where pets aren't and never have been a thing.
If they didn't exist they wouldn't suffer at all! I can't believe this is a controversial statement.

If I wanted to talk about real world problems I would talk about real world problems.

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