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Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai
You can actually hear the rusty gears in open24hours' head failing to turn as he posts.

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Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Making Plastic Explosives from Bleach posted:

Making Plastic Explosives from Bleach by The Jolly Roger

Potassium chlorate is an extremely volatile explosive compound,
and has been used in the past as the main explosive filler in
grenades, land mines, and mortar rounds by such countries as
France and Germany. Common household bleach contains a small
amount of potassium chlorate, which can be extracted by the
procedure that follows.

First off, you must obtain:

[1] A heat source (hot plate, stove, etc.)
[2] A hydrometer, or battery hydrometer
[3] A large Pyrex, or enameled steel container (to weigh
chemicals)
[4] Potassium chloride (sold as a salt substitute at health and
nutrition stores)

Take one gallon of bleach, place it in the container, and begin
heating it. While this solution heats, weigh out 63 grams of
potassium chloride and add this to the bleach being heated.
Constantly check the solution being heated with the hydrometer,
and boil until you get a reading of 1.3. If using a battery
hydrometer, boil until you read a FULL charge.

Take the solution and allow it to cool in a refrigerator until it
is between room temperature and 0 degrees Celcius. Filter out the
crystals that have formed and save them. Boil this solution again
and cool as before. Filter and save the crystals.

Take the crystals that have been saved, and mix them with
distilled water in the following proportions: 56 grams per 100
milliliters distilled water. Heat this solution until it boils
and allow to cool. Filter the solution and save the crystals that
form upon cooling. This process of purification is called
"fractional crystalization". These crystals should be relatively
pure potassium chlorate.

Powder these to the consistency of face powder, and heat gently to
drive off all moisture.

Now, melt five parts Vaseline with five parts wax. Dissolve this
in white gasoline (camp stove gasoline), and pour this liquid on
90 parts potassium chlorate (the powdered crystals from above)
into a plastic bowl. Knead this liquid into the potassium
chlorate until intimately mixed. Allow all gasoline to evaporate.

Finally, place this explosive into a cool, dry place. Avoid
friction, sulfur, sulfides, and phosphorous compounds. This
explosive is best molded to the desired shape and density of 1.3
grams in a cube and dipped in wax until water proof. These block
type charges guarantee the highest detonation velocity. Also, a
blasting cap of at least a 3 grade must be used.

The presence of the afore mentioned compounds (sulfur, sulfides,
etc.) results in mixtures that are or can become highly sensitive
and will possibly decompose explosively while in storage. You
should never store homemade explosives, and you must use EXTREME
caution at all times while performing the processes in this
article.

You may obtain a catalog of other subject of this nature by
writing:

Information Publishing Co.
Box 10042
Odessa, Texas 79762

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

SadisTech posted:

e: You know the more I think about it, the more I love that you're literally arguing "X exists, therefore X can suffer, therefore X should not exist" which, if you follow the logic, implies that nothing capable of suffering should exist. End all life higher than bacteria FTW

That X exists therefore X can suffer is not, or at least doesn't have to be, an argument against the existence of X.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

open24hours posted:

That X exists therefore X can suffer is not, or at least doesn't have to be, an argument against the existence of X.

Interesting. Get this: water is wet. Have you ever thought about this? People call me a stupid idiot when I bring it up in conversation for some reason, I think they're just being unreasonable.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

I'm pretty sure people would call you that anyway.

Do you disagree with the argument, Amethyst?

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

open24hours posted:

I'm pretty sure people would call you that anyway.

Do you disagree with the argument, Amethyst?

"If pets didn't exist they wouldn't suffer" is hardly an argument, you insanely obtuse dolt.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Well it's not one I would expect people to disagree with.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

open24hours posted:

Well it's not one I would expect people to disagree with.

It literally doesn't matter if anyone agrees with it or not. It is a nonsense waste of time statement. It isn't worthy of anything other than as a signifier of your mental triviality

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
What if we made a rule that Auspol posts needed a pic of Pavel that hasn't been posted this month?

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
If fireworks didn't exist, babbies wouldn't complain about not having them.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

I don't think that's true. People complain about not having things that don't exist all the time.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
Sorry, I'm thinking in terms of my hypothetical universe, where nobody will ever think of the concept of fireworks.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

open24hours posted:

I don't think that's true. People complain about not having things that don't exist all the time.

Just look at this thread as an example, people always complain about good posts but they never existed

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

My dog is happy as poo poo 24/7.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

Laserface posted:

My dog is happy as poo poo 24/7.

Sure, but do you agree or disagree that it wouldn't suffer if it didn't exist? Frankly, I'm amazed at the dipshits in this thread who aren't strongly affirming the truth of this thesis.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Well I'm responsible with my gun.

Mr Chips
Jun 27, 2007
Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?

Laserface posted:

My dog is happy as poo poo 24/7.

that's because it's an organism that has been genetically modified by humans to express those traits.

Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday
This thread sure is off to a rollicking start.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

open24hours posted:

Well I'm responsible with my gun.

Ah yes, pet ownership is exactly like gun ownership. This is a new frontier of thought on The Pet Issue.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
man i know it's hot today but i can't believe amethyst is already melting down

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Amethyst posted:

Ah yes, pet ownership is exactly like gun ownership. This is a new frontier of thought on The Pet Issue.

Tell me about the differences between pet and gun ownership, Amethyst.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
Thread shouldn't loving exist.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
bitches are just a garage where i park my enormous cock. why won't the ladies talk to me. stupid dumb whore always go for jerks instead of nice guys like meeeee

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

Birb Katter posted:


A bomb recipe


That pamphlet about Greens terrorism ... it's coming true

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE



Auspol February: If I wanted to talk about real world problems I would talk about real world problems.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
As a straight, white, upper middle class male university student, I am sick and tired of being persecuted and oppressed by what I can only define as a gynocracy.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Recoome posted:

As a straight, white, upper middle class male university student, I am sick and tired of being persecuted and oppressed by what I can only define as a gynocracy.

Also all the troubles men face in society are the fault of MISANDRY and definitely not misogyny.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
You know what else is open 24 hours? Bomb making Jihadists.

The Greens Annual Handbook posted:

Highway radar jamming by The Jolly Roger

Most drivers wanting to make better time on the open road will
invest in one of those expensive radar detectors. However, this
device will not work against a gun type radar unit in which the
radar signal is not present until the cop has your car in his
sights and pulls the trigger. Then it is TOO LATE for you to slow
down. A better method is to continuously jam any signal with a
radar signal of your own. I have tested this idea with the
cooperation of a local cop and found that his unit reads random
numbers when my car approached him. It is suprisingly easy to make
a low power radar transmitter. A nifty little semiconductor called
a Gunn Diode will generate microwaves when supplied with the 5 to
10 volt DC and enclosed in the correct size cavity (resonater). An
8 to 3 terminal regulator can be used to get this voltage from a
car's 12v system. However, the correct construction and tuning of
the cavity is difficult without good microwave measurement
equipment. Police radars commonly operate on the K band at 22 ghz.
Or more often on the X band at 10.525 ghz. most microwave intruder
alarms and motion detectors (mounted over automatic doors in
supermarkets & banks, etc.) contain a Gunn type
transmitter/receiver combination that transmits about 10 kilowatts
at 10.525 ghz. These units work perfectly as jammers. If you
cannot get one locally, write to Microwave Associates in
Burlington, Massachusettes and ask them for info on 'Gunnplexers'
for ham radio use. When you get the unit it may be mounted in a
plastic box on the dash or in a weather-proff enclosure behind the
PLASTIC grille. Switch on the power when on an open highway. The
unit will not jam radar to the side or behind the car so don't go
speeding past the radar trap. An interesting phenomena you will
notice is that the drivers who are in front of you who are using
detectors will hit their brakes as you approach large metal signs
and bridges. Your signal is bouncing off of these objects and
triggering their radar detectors! HAVE FUN!
-Jolly Roger-

P.S. If you are interested in this sort of thing, get a copy of
POPULAR COMMUNICATIONS. The ads in there tell you where you can
get all kinds of info on all kinds of neat equipment for all kinds
of neat things!

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
1.5 days in, 3 pages into petchat this thread already sucks

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
Pavel doesn't have a pet and neither should you

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

open24hours posted:

That's not the argument I'm making.

Your cat probably wouldn't even exist, and wouldn't have had to have been rescued from further harm, if it weren't for the culture of pet ownership.

So you're saying to fix Australia's problem with racism against Aborigines we should forcibly sterilise them?

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
ocelots are good pets

but even better masters

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Gorilla Salad posted:

So you're saying to fix Australia's problem with racism against Aborigines we should forcibly sterilise them?

...no? Are you?

[EDIT: If Aboriginal people were being kept as pets I'd be calling for an end to the practice though.]

open24hours fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Feb 2, 2016

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Gorilla Salad posted:

So you're saying to fix Australia's problem with racism against Aborigines we should forcibly sterilise them?

There should be forced breeding between races. If everyone is part everything racism should be over. I volunteer to sex up honorary Russian-Australian Pavel Petel.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
Gun owner pet owner. Oh right, those things are now equatable, carry on handsome gentleman.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Birdstrike posted:

ocelots are good pets

but even better masters

no pets no masters


namaste

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

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5yo boy allegedly raped on Nauru could be sent back to detention centre, doctor says

A five-year-old boy who was allegedly raped on Nauru is facing the prospect of being returned to the offshore detention centre where his attacker remains.

The revelations come from paediatricians who have detailed their concerns to the ABC about the child and the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres.

Paediatrician Karen Zwi said the young child suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault.

"Like many other children who are very distressed he regressed, he began bed-wetting, he became very anxious about his mother's wellbeing, he actually began to self-harm, as I've seen several other children do as well and eventually he was transferred over to the mainland for treatment," Dr Zwi said.

She said the child's greatest fear was returning to Nauru.

"That is this huge cloud hanging over him. That he will be returned to an absolutely traumatic and devastating environment for him."

The boy's fate is likely to hang on the result of a High Court decision about a challenge to the Federal Government's policy of sending asylum seekers arriving by boat to detention at centres on Manus Island and Nauru, that will be delivered tomorrow.

If the court case fails, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has flagged his intentions of sending the group of 160 adults, 37 babies and 54 other children back to Nauru.


Detention 'breaking spirit' of young people

In exclusive interviews, two young women spoke to the ABC, giving first-hand accounts of the horrific conditions children are enduring in offshore detention centres.

One of the girls, Jamilah, 20, from Somalia, said being in detention on Christmas Island had broken her spirit.

"My friends, all of them, they were harming themselves. I tried to be strong and say that was not the right thing I could do," she said.

"I was thinking killing myself was the last thing I could do in my life."

Another girl, Assiya, who was held on Nauru for more than 12 months, told the ABC how she attempted to kill herself after daily taunts from her captors and being physically assaulted by a guard.

"I used to be a very strong person and always tried to think positive but they really break me down. There was a point I couldn't think of life anymore," she said.

"Sometimes the guards bring video of the Prime Minister and they make us watch it, saying you will never call Australia home. Same thing that they tell us every day.

"The more you try to do something, the more you get upset and hurt and treated like animals."

She said she attempted to hang herself with a scarf and was saved by a friend from dying.


A mincing machine' of traumatic events

After doctors raised concerns about the mental health of Assiya and Jamilah, both were transferred to the mainland for treatment.

But they face the prospect of being returned to detention at any time.

Dr Zwi said children kept in offshore detention had "been through a mincing machine".

"They've had one traumatic event after another. Sometimes I feel they are broken into little bits and it's really hard to put the pieces back together again," she said.

"It's almost impossible to help them to heal and recover if they know that they're going to go back to that environment."


Average detention time for children stretches to 14 months

Around 160 children are being held in detention by Australian authorities.

The figure has dropped from 2013, when the number of children detained reached almost 2,000. But children are being held for much longer, an average of 14 months.

On a visit to Nauru, paediatrician Hasantha Gunasekera said he was horrified to see how the children were suffering.

"We hardly ever see young children and adolescents so traumatised by life that they would want to take their own life," Dr Gunasekera said.

"But in Nauru and in detention centres where kids have been kept, sometimes for most of their life, we see very young children who just can't take it anymore and try to kill themselves or wanting to hurt themselves. Or saying things like, 'I may as well just jump off the roof'.

"There's no point anymore. I had one parent say to me, 'I brought my kids here for them to be safe, not to learn how to commit suicide'. What do you say to a parent like that?"


Doctors speak out despite jail threat

Dr Gunasekera and Dr Zwi know they could be charged and jailed for speaking out about what they have seen in Australia's detention centres.

Under the Border Force Act passed in 2014, anyone working in immigration detention, including doctors, faces two years' imprisonment for revealing details of what goes on there.

"Paediatricians have a responsibility to make sure the system stops damaging children and that's why many of us have chosen to speak out," Dr Zwi said.

Dr Gunasekera said if Australians knew what was happening in offshore detention, they would be shocked.

"If the Australian people knew actually what was happening, if they saw the trauma on the faces of the kids like we saw," he said.

"That's why there is secrecy around every part of this policy, it's because its so shameful."

A spokesman for Mr Dutton said he would not be making any comments about the High Court challenge until after the announcement.

"We will wait to see what the court decides and make comment after that," he said.

He said the medical attention given to people in Australian-run detention centres was "pretty much what you get in Australia".

The spokesman said issues relating to doctors speaking out under the Border Force Act were dealt with last year and that it was made clear that the provisions were needed to protect sensitive information.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/boy-allegedly-raped-on-nauru-could-be-sent-back-to-detention/7132608

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

QUACKTASTIC posted:

5yo boy allegedly raped on Nauru could be sent back to detention centre, doctor says

A five-year-old boy who was allegedly raped on Nauru is facing the prospect of being returned to the offshore detention centre where his attacker remains.

The revelations come from paediatricians who have detailed their concerns to the ABC about the child and the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres.

Paediatrician Karen Zwi said the young child suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault.

"Like many other children who are very distressed he regressed, he began bed-wetting, he became very anxious about his mother's wellbeing, he actually began to self-harm, as I've seen several other children do as well and eventually he was transferred over to the mainland for treatment," Dr Zwi said.

She said the child's greatest fear was returning to Nauru.

"That is this huge cloud hanging over him. That he will be returned to an absolutely traumatic and devastating environment for him."

The boy's fate is likely to hang on the result of a High Court decision about a challenge to the Federal Government's policy of sending asylum seekers arriving by boat to detention at centres on Manus Island and Nauru, that will be delivered tomorrow.

If the court case fails, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has flagged his intentions of sending the group of 160 adults, 37 babies and 54 other children back to Nauru.


Detention 'breaking spirit' of young people

In exclusive interviews, two young women spoke to the ABC, giving first-hand accounts of the horrific conditions children are enduring in offshore detention centres.

One of the girls, Jamilah, 20, from Somalia, said being in detention on Christmas Island had broken her spirit.

"My friends, all of them, they were harming themselves. I tried to be strong and say that was not the right thing I could do," she said.

"I was thinking killing myself was the last thing I could do in my life."

Another girl, Assiya, who was held on Nauru for more than 12 months, told the ABC how she attempted to kill herself after daily taunts from her captors and being physically assaulted by a guard.

"I used to be a very strong person and always tried to think positive but they really break me down. There was a point I couldn't think of life anymore," she said.

"Sometimes the guards bring video of the Prime Minister and they make us watch it, saying you will never call Australia home. Same thing that they tell us every day.

"The more you try to do something, the more you get upset and hurt and treated like animals."

She said she attempted to hang herself with a scarf and was saved by a friend from dying.


A mincing machine' of traumatic events

After doctors raised concerns about the mental health of Assiya and Jamilah, both were transferred to the mainland for treatment.

But they face the prospect of being returned to detention at any time.

Dr Zwi said children kept in offshore detention had "been through a mincing machine".

"They've had one traumatic event after another. Sometimes I feel they are broken into little bits and it's really hard to put the pieces back together again," she said.

"It's almost impossible to help them to heal and recover if they know that they're going to go back to that environment."


Average detention time for children stretches to 14 months

Around 160 children are being held in detention by Australian authorities.

The figure has dropped from 2013, when the number of children detained reached almost 2,000. But children are being held for much longer, an average of 14 months.

On a visit to Nauru, paediatrician Hasantha Gunasekera said he was horrified to see how the children were suffering.

"We hardly ever see young children and adolescents so traumatised by life that they would want to take their own life," Dr Gunasekera said.

"But in Nauru and in detention centres where kids have been kept, sometimes for most of their life, we see very young children who just can't take it anymore and try to kill themselves or wanting to hurt themselves. Or saying things like, 'I may as well just jump off the roof'.

"There's no point anymore. I had one parent say to me, 'I brought my kids here for them to be safe, not to learn how to commit suicide'. What do you say to a parent like that?"


Doctors speak out despite jail threat

Dr Gunasekera and Dr Zwi know they could be charged and jailed for speaking out about what they have seen in Australia's detention centres.

Under the Border Force Act passed in 2014, anyone working in immigration detention, including doctors, faces two years' imprisonment for revealing details of what goes on there.

"Paediatricians have a responsibility to make sure the system stops damaging children and that's why many of us have chosen to speak out," Dr Zwi said.

Dr Gunasekera said if Australians knew what was happening in offshore detention, they would be shocked.

"If the Australian people knew actually what was happening, if they saw the trauma on the faces of the kids like we saw," he said.

"That's why there is secrecy around every part of this policy, it's because its so shameful."

A spokesman for Mr Dutton said he would not be making any comments about the High Court challenge until after the announcement.

"We will wait to see what the court decides and make comment after that," he said.

He said the medical attention given to people in Australian-run detention centres was "pretty much what you get in Australia".

The spokesman said issues relating to doctors speaking out under the Border Force Act were dealt with last year and that it was made clear that the provisions were needed to protect sensitive information.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/boy-allegedly-raped-on-nauru-could-be-sent-back-to-detention/7132608

:(

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

QUACKTASTIC posted:

5yo boy allegedly raped on Nauru could be sent back to detention centre, doctor says

A five-year-old boy who was allegedly raped on Nauru is facing the prospect of being returned to the offshore detention centre where his attacker remains.

The revelations come from paediatricians who have detailed their concerns to the ABC about the child and the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres.

Paediatrician Karen Zwi said the young child suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault.

"Like many other children who are very distressed he regressed, he began bed-wetting, he became very anxious about his mother's wellbeing, he actually began to self-harm, as I've seen several other children do as well and eventually he was transferred over to the mainland for treatment," Dr Zwi said.

She said the child's greatest fear was returning to Nauru.

"That is this huge cloud hanging over him. That he will be returned to an absolutely traumatic and devastating environment for him."

The boy's fate is likely to hang on the result of a High Court decision about a challenge to the Federal Government's policy of sending asylum seekers arriving by boat to detention at centres on Manus Island and Nauru, that will be delivered tomorrow.

If the court case fails, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has flagged his intentions of sending the group of 160 adults, 37 babies and 54 other children back to Nauru.


Detention 'breaking spirit' of young people

In exclusive interviews, two young women spoke to the ABC, giving first-hand accounts of the horrific conditions children are enduring in offshore detention centres.

One of the girls, Jamilah, 20, from Somalia, said being in detention on Christmas Island had broken her spirit.

"My friends, all of them, they were harming themselves. I tried to be strong and say that was not the right thing I could do," she said.

"I was thinking killing myself was the last thing I could do in my life."

Another girl, Assiya, who was held on Nauru for more than 12 months, told the ABC how she attempted to kill herself after daily taunts from her captors and being physically assaulted by a guard.

"I used to be a very strong person and always tried to think positive but they really break me down. There was a point I couldn't think of life anymore," she said.

"Sometimes the guards bring video of the Prime Minister and they make us watch it, saying you will never call Australia home. Same thing that they tell us every day.

"The more you try to do something, the more you get upset and hurt and treated like animals."

She said she attempted to hang herself with a scarf and was saved by a friend from dying.


A mincing machine' of traumatic events

After doctors raised concerns about the mental health of Assiya and Jamilah, both were transferred to the mainland for treatment.

But they face the prospect of being returned to detention at any time.

Dr Zwi said children kept in offshore detention had "been through a mincing machine".

"They've had one traumatic event after another. Sometimes I feel they are broken into little bits and it's really hard to put the pieces back together again," she said.

"It's almost impossible to help them to heal and recover if they know that they're going to go back to that environment."


Average detention time for children stretches to 14 months

Around 160 children are being held in detention by Australian authorities.

The figure has dropped from 2013, when the number of children detained reached almost 2,000. But children are being held for much longer, an average of 14 months.

On a visit to Nauru, paediatrician Hasantha Gunasekera said he was horrified to see how the children were suffering.

"We hardly ever see young children and adolescents so traumatised by life that they would want to take their own life," Dr Gunasekera said.

"But in Nauru and in detention centres where kids have been kept, sometimes for most of their life, we see very young children who just can't take it anymore and try to kill themselves or wanting to hurt themselves. Or saying things like, 'I may as well just jump off the roof'.

"There's no point anymore. I had one parent say to me, 'I brought my kids here for them to be safe, not to learn how to commit suicide'. What do you say to a parent like that?"


Doctors speak out despite jail threat

Dr Gunasekera and Dr Zwi know they could be charged and jailed for speaking out about what they have seen in Australia's detention centres.

Under the Border Force Act passed in 2014, anyone working in immigration detention, including doctors, faces two years' imprisonment for revealing details of what goes on there.

"Paediatricians have a responsibility to make sure the system stops damaging children and that's why many of us have chosen to speak out," Dr Zwi said.

Dr Gunasekera said if Australians knew what was happening in offshore detention, they would be shocked.

"If the Australian people knew actually what was happening, if they saw the trauma on the faces of the kids like we saw," he said.

"That's why there is secrecy around every part of this policy, it's because its so shameful."

A spokesman for Mr Dutton said he would not be making any comments about the High Court challenge until after the announcement.

"We will wait to see what the court decides and make comment after that," he said.

He said the medical attention given to people in Australian-run detention centres was "pretty much what you get in Australia".

The spokesman said issues relating to doctors speaking out under the Border Force Act were dealt with last year and that it was made clear that the provisions were needed to protect sensitive information.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/boy-allegedly-raped-on-nauru-could-be-sent-back-to-detention/7132608

I thought the petgun chat was bad but it turns out Australia is worse.

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Mar 31, 2010

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