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Birb Katter
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So Roosh is not going to be in Sydney but Canberra instead this weekend apparently. Canberra goons you should have a steady supply of explosives from fireworks stores, please do the needful.

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open24hours posted:

Fireworks were banned years ago due to the meddling of the RSPCA.

Is mining legal in Canberra? of course it is

Maybe get some c4 from a mine site then

#terehABC posted:

Return of Kings 'legal rape' creator 'Roosh V' hasn't applied for visa, Peter Dutton says

A man who believes rape should be legalised has not applied for a visa, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says, despite 'Roosh V' confirming plans to visit Canberra this weekend.

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

Say no to cats.

Dogs are alright as long as it's the First Dog, after that it gets worse.

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Laserface posted:

Can someone please post the BOM article for the 6th time thx

BOMB ARTICLE posted:



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Hello! Welcome to the Jolly Roger's Cookbook III! I hope that
this collection of text files has enough info to keep you hackers
busy for awhile (at least until the next update!). As I gather
information I will keep adding it and uploading it to my "home
base" bbs's in different cities with additional numbered files,
and an updated index that you can just replace the old one with.

Thanks for taking the time to read this file, by the way. There are
a few things that I want to say about the Cookbook.

1) If I ever find out that anyone has omitted my name from
anywhere in these files withoutmy expressed permission, then I
will immediately stop doing any updates and I will release your
name to as many boards that I can find, urging them to put you on
their Black List. I also, will FIND YOU! (I think you can see from
the knowledge base contained in this collection that I DO possess
the capability! You will wish it were the FEDS and not me!) In
other words, be careful who you give this collection to. Of,
course there are idiots (probably the same ones who write
viruses!) that will misuse this information and kill some people
or get themselves & you into a lot of trouble! So keep this
treasure chest buried and only dig it up for those that you can
TRUST! Also you would be screwing yourself, because I still have
all kinds of things that I can put in here for updates, and you will
NEVER see them if I quit updating because of some rear end in a top hat. So
think about it. If you WANT the updates (info you would probably
have a helluva time finding elsewhere!), then STAY COOL with it.

2) I was going to encrypt these files and load/print them from
within an encrypted program. However, I have decided against that
for these reasons:

a) It would then be machine-exclusive
b) It would show that I don't trust you.
c) Only Atari ST users would ever see it.

So I decided on keeping it ASCII. ANY machine that can read ASCII
files can now read these.

3) Please do not use my handle to gain access to boards. you never
know where I might show up and I will have to find you and deal
with you if I ever see it. Don't make me do this.

4) By releasing this database I am taking a real chance on you
people. I sure as hell don't want MY house blown up with a paint or
Solidox bomb! And I am sure that you don't want yours blown up
either (or your credit cards used for tha matter). So I have to
stress again: BE loving CAREFUL WHO YOU GIVE THIS TO!!

That is all for now. If I ever have to update this, it will just be
in the update archive as file 000.doc. Just replace the old one.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=Notes for Version 2.0=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Ok... here it is... long awaited v2.0.... what a bitch it was for me to
put this poo poo together. Hell, over 6 months to put the update poo poo
together. Anyway, response was cool, nobody hosed with the rulez above.
I am glad. This allows me to continue the updates. You should find it
worth the wait.

God, there is so much more to do. As you can probably see, this database
is getting quite huge. And I have not even begun to tap the resources I
have available to me. I can easily over the next year or so make this
thing grow to 1600k or more..... so as long as I DON'T find this on a
p/d bbs, and I DO see it being spread around the proper channels, as
LONG as you guys keep bugging me for an update, and finally, as long as
the rulez above are kept,I shall continue.

What you have in your disk drive right now is some of the most dangerous
knowledge ever unleashed on the computer underground. Use it wisely.
The really JUICY stuff will come in Cookbook v3.0, but let's see how
this one goes across, shall we? The Blotto box should be enough to see
how responsible you all are.....................

Have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Enjoy this database! A lot more to come!!! -----------The Jolly Roger

note to all warring pirates and the so-called "groups"
(You know who you are...):

gently caress YOU! You are all assholes. Acting like loving babies like trading
software was your loving life or something. Like you have some big name
or something. Do you realize that nobody gives a flying gently caress about you
in the real world? I have been a pirate for over 10 years, and have over
4000 ST programs, over 2000 IBM programs, over 2500 Macintosh programs,
and over 500 Amiga programs (& I do not even own an Amiga!).... and you
do not see me kissing rear end on the bbs's, or making a deal out of someone
not "liking" me..... boo-loving-hoo!! I really do not care. You see,
the difference between you and me is that I do this for fun. I see no
other reason to pursue a "hobby" but FOR fun. I hate the loving
politics & poo poo. I give my stuff freely. It all comes back to me.
It just makes me sick when I am on the bbs's and I see these little baby
games about who did what, and who stole what loader, or re-crack, or
whatever. I AM AN original pirate. 1st generation. Not anything like you
baby-poo poo assholes. Excuse me but I had this boiling in me for a long
time. The ST world is so small that what little we do have we destroy
from within. And we blame Jack for it. gently caress, maybe that is the only
thing we agree on. Anyway, where is the hacking spirit? The giving? The
free will? Why all of the loving ego's? It should be obvious by now
that I have no interest whatsoever in ego-tripping. You can like me or
hate me. But I will always be here. --------------Jolly Roger

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******************** Notes for Version III! *********************
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Ah..version III. Well, I never thought for a minute that version
II would turn out to be so popular! Well, I am proud to announce
version III, and can assure you that a version IV is in the works!
As a student, however, I cannot say when it will be ready...but
what the hell...it will be a long time, I am sure, before you run
out of "toys" to play with.

Lots of interesting new reading for you in this version! A Special
thanks to CREDITMAN, who lives in the UK and contributed an
excellent article on carding in the UK. It is great reading.

Now, I would like to say a few words to those who insist on
yanking my chain (or is it dick?) in the message bases here in the
U.S.: "Whatever, dudes!"

Now that was a few words, eh? Ok, I am debating on a new format
for Cookbook IV...something with easier access. Hell, this index
idea worked just fine when the cookbook was small, but now it is
getting quite large and the articles are getting quite
numerous...and--who knows? My laziness tells me to stick with it.
I just might do that!

Well, the files spilled over onto two disks, so I figured I would
include some ST-specific "goodies". They are in a file on disk B
called "Goodie.Bag" and contain a few rarities and a few
essentials. Some will find most interesting, most will find some
interesting, a few may find none interesting. Oh, well.

If anybody has any comments (there always is a few slags--take
your best shot!) then drop me a line in the usual places that one
can find me. If you do not know where those places are, then I am
sorry. It just wasn't meant to be. Ha Ha!

All who oppose me and my ideas and/or the group that I participate
in can bugger off. Sure, yeah, I steal a lot of things--I am a
pirate after all. but so do you, and don't forget it. It is
ridiculous to call a thief a thief when it is a thief doing the
accusing. Grow up. This Cookbook is done for no other reason but
to share with EVERYONE ELITE some of the underground and often
illegal as hell information that I have gathered, researched, and
labored to locate, type, and write/compose. At least give me
credit for that. Anyone whom I call rear end in a top hat deserves it in my eyes
for only one reason: there is not ONE drat THING redeeming that I
can find to compliment them on!! For example, Automation slagged
me for the R.C.A Slag Show II, I turned around and told them to
piss off on that, and then said that their cd's are getting
better. What kind of "kid" (a 24 year old one) would do that
anyway? Certainly not the TOI, that's for sure! Oh, well, gently caress it
anyways. We are all going to die in Iraq soon enough anyway....-

Enjoy and spread! Contribute if you can! Information should be
free (that's why I turned down an offer to publish portions of
this thing!)!!

----------------------Jolly Roger

Birb Katter
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Just to make sure this page hits the ASIO bingo, we've already got bomb instructions so I'm going to wage a JIHAD for ALLAH on PARLIAMENT.

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Making Plastic Explosives from Bleach posted:

Making Plastic Explosives from Bleach by The Jolly Roger

Potassium chlorate is an extremely volatile explosive compound,
and has been used in the past as the main explosive filler in
grenades, land mines, and mortar rounds by such countries as
France and Germany. Common household bleach contains a small
amount of potassium chlorate, which can be extracted by the
procedure that follows.

First off, you must obtain:

[1] A heat source (hot plate, stove, etc.)
[2] A hydrometer, or battery hydrometer
[3] A large Pyrex, or enameled steel container (to weigh
chemicals)
[4] Potassium chloride (sold as a salt substitute at health and
nutrition stores)

Take one gallon of bleach, place it in the container, and begin
heating it. While this solution heats, weigh out 63 grams of
potassium chloride and add this to the bleach being heated.
Constantly check the solution being heated with the hydrometer,
and boil until you get a reading of 1.3. If using a battery
hydrometer, boil until you read a FULL charge.

Take the solution and allow it to cool in a refrigerator until it
is between room temperature and 0 degrees Celcius. Filter out the
crystals that have formed and save them. Boil this solution again
and cool as before. Filter and save the crystals.

Take the crystals that have been saved, and mix them with
distilled water in the following proportions: 56 grams per 100
milliliters distilled water. Heat this solution until it boils
and allow to cool. Filter the solution and save the crystals that
form upon cooling. This process of purification is called
"fractional crystalization". These crystals should be relatively
pure potassium chlorate.

Powder these to the consistency of face powder, and heat gently to
drive off all moisture.

Now, melt five parts Vaseline with five parts wax. Dissolve this
in white gasoline (camp stove gasoline), and pour this liquid on
90 parts potassium chlorate (the powdered crystals from above)
into a plastic bowl. Knead this liquid into the potassium
chlorate until intimately mixed. Allow all gasoline to evaporate.

Finally, place this explosive into a cool, dry place. Avoid
friction, sulfur, sulfides, and phosphorous compounds. This
explosive is best molded to the desired shape and density of 1.3
grams in a cube and dipped in wax until water proof. These block
type charges guarantee the highest detonation velocity. Also, a
blasting cap of at least a 3 grade must be used.

The presence of the afore mentioned compounds (sulfur, sulfides,
etc.) results in mixtures that are or can become highly sensitive
and will possibly decompose explosively while in storage. You
should never store homemade explosives, and you must use EXTREME
caution at all times while performing the processes in this
article.

You may obtain a catalog of other subject of this nature by
writing:

Information Publishing Co.
Box 10042
Odessa, Texas 79762

Birb Katter
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What if we made a rule that Auspol posts needed a pic of Pavel that hasn't been posted this month?

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open24hours posted:

I don't think that's true. People complain about not having things that don't exist all the time.

Just look at this thread as an example, people always complain about good posts but they never existed

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You know what else is open 24 hours? Bomb making Jihadists.

The Greens Annual Handbook posted:

Highway radar jamming by The Jolly Roger

Most drivers wanting to make better time on the open road will
invest in one of those expensive radar detectors. However, this
device will not work against a gun type radar unit in which the
radar signal is not present until the cop has your car in his
sights and pulls the trigger. Then it is TOO LATE for you to slow
down. A better method is to continuously jam any signal with a
radar signal of your own. I have tested this idea with the
cooperation of a local cop and found that his unit reads random
numbers when my car approached him. It is suprisingly easy to make
a low power radar transmitter. A nifty little semiconductor called
a Gunn Diode will generate microwaves when supplied with the 5 to
10 volt DC and enclosed in the correct size cavity (resonater). An
8 to 3 terminal regulator can be used to get this voltage from a
car's 12v system. However, the correct construction and tuning of
the cavity is difficult without good microwave measurement
equipment. Police radars commonly operate on the K band at 22 ghz.
Or more often on the X band at 10.525 ghz. most microwave intruder
alarms and motion detectors (mounted over automatic doors in
supermarkets & banks, etc.) contain a Gunn type
transmitter/receiver combination that transmits about 10 kilowatts
at 10.525 ghz. These units work perfectly as jammers. If you
cannot get one locally, write to Microwave Associates in
Burlington, Massachusettes and ask them for info on 'Gunnplexers'
for ham radio use. When you get the unit it may be mounted in a
plastic box on the dash or in a weather-proff enclosure behind the
PLASTIC grille. Switch on the power when on an open highway. The
unit will not jam radar to the side or behind the car so don't go
speeding past the radar trap. An interesting phenomena you will
notice is that the drivers who are in front of you who are using
detectors will hit their brakes as you approach large metal signs
and bridges. Your signal is bouncing off of these objects and
triggering their radar detectors! HAVE FUN!
-Jolly Roger-

P.S. If you are interested in this sort of thing, get a copy of
POPULAR COMMUNICATIONS. The ads in there tell you where you can
get all kinds of info on all kinds of neat equipment for all kinds
of neat things!

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Pavel doesn't have a pet and neither should you

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Gorilla Salad posted:

So you're saying to fix Australia's problem with racism against Aborigines we should forcibly sterilise them?

There should be forced breeding between races. If everyone is part everything racism should be over. I volunteer to sex up honorary Russian-Australian Pavel Petel.

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QUACKTASTIC posted:

5yo boy allegedly raped on Nauru could be sent back to detention centre, doctor says

A five-year-old boy who was allegedly raped on Nauru is facing the prospect of being returned to the offshore detention centre where his attacker remains.

The revelations come from paediatricians who have detailed their concerns to the ABC about the child and the wellbeing and safety of about 160 other children held in Australia's detention centres.

Paediatrician Karen Zwi said the young child suffered serious mental health problems after the alleged sexual assault.

"Like many other children who are very distressed he regressed, he began bed-wetting, he became very anxious about his mother's wellbeing, he actually began to self-harm, as I've seen several other children do as well and eventually he was transferred over to the mainland for treatment," Dr Zwi said.

She said the child's greatest fear was returning to Nauru.

"That is this huge cloud hanging over him. That he will be returned to an absolutely traumatic and devastating environment for him."

The boy's fate is likely to hang on the result of a High Court decision about a challenge to the Federal Government's policy of sending asylum seekers arriving by boat to detention at centres on Manus Island and Nauru, that will be delivered tomorrow.

If the court case fails, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has flagged his intentions of sending the group of 160 adults, 37 babies and 54 other children back to Nauru.


Detention 'breaking spirit' of young people

In exclusive interviews, two young women spoke to the ABC, giving first-hand accounts of the horrific conditions children are enduring in offshore detention centres.

One of the girls, Jamilah, 20, from Somalia, said being in detention on Christmas Island had broken her spirit.

"My friends, all of them, they were harming themselves. I tried to be strong and say that was not the right thing I could do," she said.

"I was thinking killing myself was the last thing I could do in my life."

Another girl, Assiya, who was held on Nauru for more than 12 months, told the ABC how she attempted to kill herself after daily taunts from her captors and being physically assaulted by a guard.

"I used to be a very strong person and always tried to think positive but they really break me down. There was a point I couldn't think of life anymore," she said.

"Sometimes the guards bring video of the Prime Minister and they make us watch it, saying you will never call Australia home. Same thing that they tell us every day.

"The more you try to do something, the more you get upset and hurt and treated like animals."

She said she attempted to hang herself with a scarf and was saved by a friend from dying.


A mincing machine' of traumatic events

After doctors raised concerns about the mental health of Assiya and Jamilah, both were transferred to the mainland for treatment.

But they face the prospect of being returned to detention at any time.

Dr Zwi said children kept in offshore detention had "been through a mincing machine".

"They've had one traumatic event after another. Sometimes I feel they are broken into little bits and it's really hard to put the pieces back together again," she said.

"It's almost impossible to help them to heal and recover if they know that they're going to go back to that environment."


Average detention time for children stretches to 14 months

Around 160 children are being held in detention by Australian authorities.

The figure has dropped from 2013, when the number of children detained reached almost 2,000. But children are being held for much longer, an average of 14 months.

On a visit to Nauru, paediatrician Hasantha Gunasekera said he was horrified to see how the children were suffering.

"We hardly ever see young children and adolescents so traumatised by life that they would want to take their own life," Dr Gunasekera said.

"But in Nauru and in detention centres where kids have been kept, sometimes for most of their life, we see very young children who just can't take it anymore and try to kill themselves or wanting to hurt themselves. Or saying things like, 'I may as well just jump off the roof'.

"There's no point anymore. I had one parent say to me, 'I brought my kids here for them to be safe, not to learn how to commit suicide'. What do you say to a parent like that?"


Doctors speak out despite jail threat

Dr Gunasekera and Dr Zwi know they could be charged and jailed for speaking out about what they have seen in Australia's detention centres.

Under the Border Force Act passed in 2014, anyone working in immigration detention, including doctors, faces two years' imprisonment for revealing details of what goes on there.

"Paediatricians have a responsibility to make sure the system stops damaging children and that's why many of us have chosen to speak out," Dr Zwi said.

Dr Gunasekera said if Australians knew what was happening in offshore detention, they would be shocked.

"If the Australian people knew actually what was happening, if they saw the trauma on the faces of the kids like we saw," he said.

"That's why there is secrecy around every part of this policy, it's because its so shameful."

A spokesman for Mr Dutton said he would not be making any comments about the High Court challenge until after the announcement.

"We will wait to see what the court decides and make comment after that," he said.

He said the medical attention given to people in Australian-run detention centres was "pretty much what you get in Australia".

The spokesman said issues relating to doctors speaking out under the Border Force Act were dealt with last year and that it was made clear that the provisions were needed to protect sensitive information.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-02/boy-allegedly-raped-on-nauru-could-be-sent-back-to-detention/7132608

I thought the petgun chat was bad but it turns out Australia is worse.

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ninja edit: pavelsniped

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open24hours posted:

That's not true. People are scared of and hateful towards witches and the Devil and various other entities that don't exist. More effective to get rid of the racists, or, ideally, the racism.

We solved this a page back

Birb Katter posted:

There should be forced breeding between races. If everyone is part everything racism should be over. I volunteer to sex up honorary Russian-Australian Pavel Petel.


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Birb Katter posted:

We solved this a page back

Don't like my plan?

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Sure

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MysticalMachineGun posted:

Good lord this thread got started on a reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally stupid derail. Also people abuse their children so no one should be allowed to have children ever.

Have we heard how things have gone in Iowa? Don't have a radio at work so I'm a bit short on news.

Cruz has been declared and Clinton is up .85% with 95% in

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Laserface posted:

Birb is the new amethyst.

I'm here to chew gum and give grief. I'm not out of gum yet

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open24hours posted:

They're just distraction to take the focus off the undue political influence wielded by the RSPCA.

If pets are so bad then why does Pavel have one in this photo?

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hooman posted:

Everything wrong with my life is clearly the fault of women and not because of my own glaring flaws and deficiencies.

Smash gender norms then and take your life back

:nws:[url]http://i.imgur.com/4WWA4DB.jpg:nws:[/url]

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Gorilla Salad posted:

Have you heard about Men Going Their Own Way? It's a group all about men* they could be right for you.





*hating women and wanting to rape them

Is it rape if it's not illegal? yes

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Redcordial posted:

Settle the gently caress down you bunch of kids.

Just because this countries state of affairs regarding many things is far below where it should be, doesn't mean this thread should be filled with utter poo poo. Just maybe can we try to keep slightly more on topic, and not act like a god damned group of wild enraged children mid-tantrum.

It was the first day back in parliament today with Question Time, and being an election year I was hoping for more educational loving discussions.

Feel free to ignore me, but gently caress you if you do, for you are bringing down the level of discourse for everyone, and that poo poo enrages me, comedy forum or not.

Edit: I'll take of advantage of this snipe to hopefully lead a more thoughtful debate about 1: How hosed we are, but more importantly 2: What we can do to improve our situation.

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Laserface posted:

Do you reckon you could maybe cut the poo poo with the dude pics that are bordering on NSFW or better yet just loving stop posting all together?

I'll stop posting Pavel when the thread posts stuff that is better than Pavel

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High Court has thrown out the case about offshore processing being illegal

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Knorth posted:

This post needed more Pavel to counter news that poo poo

Pavel Legal are unable to save you from this I'm sorry.

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Bold the whole thing.

The Guardian posted:

Sri Lankan asylum seeker tells of terror on Nauru: 'If I am sent back, I will kill myself'

An asylum seeker brought to Australia after she was allegedly drugged and sexually assaulted on Nauru has spoken of her terror at the prospect of being sent back to the island.

Durga* a Sri Lankan Tamil, has a two decade-long history of torture and trauma, including rape, both in Sri Lanka and while in the Australian-run detention on Nauru, but faces the possibility of being returned to the Pacific island’s detention centres pending a high court challenge on Wednesday.

“I am too scared to go back to that place, my life will not be safe,” she told Guardian Australia through an interpreter from immigration detention on the Australian mainland. “If I am sent back to Nauru, I will commit suicide.”

Durga is one of 267 asylum seekers – including 72 children and 33 babies born in Australia – who could be removed to Nauru on 72 hours’ notice, if the high court decides on Wednesday it is within the government’s constitutional powers to detain people offshore.

Several of the asylum seekers at risk of being sent back to Nauru have told Guardian Australia they fear going back to the island, regardless of the status of the centres, saying they will be attacked there, or sexually assaulted, or that they will not receive required medical care.

Durga is one.

In 1996 in the northern Sri Lankan city of Jaffna, she was arrested by military officers who suspected her of links to the separatist Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE). Durga was 22 and had undergone, as almost all teenagers had, basic training with the LTTE. But she told Guardian Australia: “I was never a fighter, I was only involved in political activities.”

Durga says she was beaten and tortured, despite being pregnant, and gave birth to her son while in military custody. She was held for two years without charge or trial, before escaping to Colombo. Her husband disappeared while she was detained and has not been seen since. He is presumed dead, one of the tens of thousands “disappeared” during Sri Lanka’s civil war.

In Colombo, having been visited by friends from Jaffna, Durga was arrested again by military intelligence, interrogated and tortured. Even after being released, Durga says, she was almost routinely raped by the state’s security personnel.

“The military officers would come to my house. Every time they would come two or three men, they would grab me and force me to have sex with them. They expected me to cooperate, but I never did. I would resist. So they would tear my clothes from me, they would tie my hands and they would push clothes in my mouth so I could not scream. Then they would rape me,” she said.

“After they left, I would sit with my child and cry. They came back many times.”

Friends helped Durga escape to India in 2007 where she lived in a quasi-legal camp in Tamil Nadu, but further harassment by authorities caused her to board a boat, with her son, bound for Australia in 2014.

Durga was one of 157 Tamil asylum seekers on board a boat that was intercepted by an Australian customs vessel in July 2014. They were held on board the Australian ship for a month while the Australian government tried to return the people to India.

India refused to accept them, because they were not Indian citizens, and Australia was forced to bring the people to the Australian mainland, from where they were transferred to Nauru.

On Nauru, Durga says she never felt safe.

“In the tents, there were no locks, there could come into my tent at any time, and guards would threaten me and grab me. I was scared all the time,” she said.

“I was taking sleeping tablets because with my injuries from Sri Lanka, and my fear of being assaulted, I could not sleep. In the morning I woke up and my clothes were taken off me and things in my room had been moved. I felt like I had been raped.

“I was raped while I was taking the sleeping tablets I had been provided. I told the mental health nurse, who took my complaint seriously, and I was moved to Australia.”

Durga has been in detention in Australia with her son, now 19, since January 2015. She says she could not face being returned to Nauru.

“If I am sent back to Nauru, I will commit suicide. I cannot go back to that place.

“I don’t want any special treatment, I just want protection and freedom, that is all. I want to live without fear of being sent back to that place. I want to feel safe again.”

In a statement, Nauru police commissioner Corey Caleb said refugees regularly fabricated allegations of assault in order to garner publicity.

“They tell us they have been assaulted but their stories rarely add up: there is usually no physical evidence or witnesses or even any details.”

But the police force’s independence and capacity to properly investigate has been questioned.

A senate inquiry heard that detention centre operators had referred 50 cases to Nauruan police in recent years, but charges had been laid in just five cases, and nobody successfully prosecuted.

Nauru’s former resident magistrate, Peter Law, told the ABC last year Nauru’s police force was “politicised”.

Immigration minister Peter Dutton told Lateline on Tuesday night allegations of assault and sexual assault in detention centres were taken extremely seriously.

“The approach that we’ve taken and consistently is that if there are allegations that are being made we want those allegations to be properly investigated because, like any Australian, I won’t tolerate any thought of people, in particular children, being abused, by other refugees, by people otherwise.”

He said the government remained committed to its offshore processing policy, a key tenet of which is that any person who arrived in Australia by boat would not be settled in the country. Dutton said that policy had saved lives at sea.

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How many lives at sea equals how many kiddie rapes? I think the maths here may have gotten a little bit confused.

If anyone has the time a commentary on the text of the ruling would be awesome.

The last paragraph of the High Court Judgement Summary does a decent job of it.

Judgment Summary posted:

The Court held, by majority, that the plaintiff was not entitled to the declaration sought. The
conduct of the Commonwealth in signing the second MOU with Nauru was authorised by s 61 of
the Constitution. The Court further held that the conduct of the Commonwealth in giving effect to
the second MOU (including by entry into the Administrative Arrangements and the Transfield
Contract) was authorised by s 198AHA of the Act, which is a valid law of the Commonwealth.

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Birb Katter posted:

The last paragraph of the High Court Judgement Summary does a decent job of it.




It was a 6:1 majority, the only dissent was from Gordon said it was constitutional but beyond the scope of the Migration Act.

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fiery_valkyrie posted:

From the Guardian live blog

quote:

Gageler agreed with the substantive answers to the questions, while noting that “the plaintiff’s central claim (that the commonwealth and the minister acted beyond the executive power of the commonwealth by procuring and enforcing her detention at the regional processing centre between 24 March 2014 and 2 August 2014) to have been well-founded until 30 June 2015, when s 198AHA was inserted with retrospective effect”.

This is the section of the report that talks about that.



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Vladimir Poutine posted:

Unrelated: John Howard said yesterday that gun control was a significant contributor to the rise of One Nation.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/conversations/john-howard-gun-control-20-years-on-from-port-arthur/7133042

Imagine a government in this day an age willing to see through a difficult change for the betterment of the country at the expense of personal power. What a world that would be.

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The Divine Orator posted:

Hey, just a lurker here but could you all maybe cut back on the Pavel stuff? It makes the thread really uncomfortable to read and given the state of Australian Politics it's kind of uncomfortable enough by default!

MysticalMachineGun posted:

Not sure if uncomfortable is the right choice of words here but could we at least keep it work safe?

I'm going to be unafuckinstralian here and reach a compromise unilaterally that takes into account your feels and the feels of others. Pavels will now be linked rather than embedded and tagged nws.

Remember though kids, nws can be fun but NSW is forever poo poo.

:nws: http://i.imgur.com/8VO1HZW.jpg :nws:

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Looks like Roosh isn't getting a visa :toot:

:nws: http://i.imgur.com/ov8dy9p.jpg :nws:

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Sydney Mining Herald posted:

Peter Dutton signals likely visa ban for Return of Kings head Daryush Valizadeh

The leader of a "neo-masculinist" group that advocates the legalisation of rape is likely to be barred from visiting Australia.

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton says Daryush "Roosh" Valizadeh has no visa to visit Australia and hasn't applied for one.

But Mr Dutton, who just last month cancelled the visa of self-styled "pick-up artist"Jeff Allen on character grounds, made it clear he rejects Mr Valizadeh's views and he could have a hard time getting into Australia if he tries.

"People who advocate violence against women aren't welcome in Australia," a spokesperson for the minister said in a statement. "In the past people advocating violence against women have had their visa refused or cancelled."

"The minister has asked the department to continue to monitor this case."

While yes it is bad that we're using visas to block dissenting voices from coming to Australia and I'm sure it's being done at present so there is precedent to do it later at the same time it's nice to see people like this getting shafted.

:nws: http://i.imgur.com/Vxv6ULO.jpg :nws:

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Amethyst posted:

There is a really good story on background briefing at the moment about an asylum seeker who was hosed over by ministerial stupidity. While in a detention center, he got into a fight in the cafeteria. No one was seriously hurt. But he, along with four other men, were later convicted of a felony over it. 6 month suspended sentence.

This was extremely bad timing, because Tony Abbott, from opposition, was agitating for all asylum seekers convicted of a crime to be denied entry. The Immigration minister at the time, (Chris Bowen, I believe), directly intervened with this guy was accepted as a refugee, and put him back in detention. He stayed there for four years, his fate in total limbo.

Ministers simply cannot be trusted with judicial power. They are too beholden to the whims of fickle politics. The fact that they can even be vested with this power is a systemic failure on the constitutional level. I believe that the minister having the power to deny individual entry visas is similarly destructive, and the fact that we are being made used to it with easy examples like this rape apologist POS is only more worrying.

Here's the podcast. Seriously worth a listen, to hear how the wheels of injustice turn around policy failures like this

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/why-did-fazel-chegeni-nejad-have-to-die/7007656

That was Fazel Chegeni who is dead now.

:nws: http://i.imgur.com/gcnRoJt.jpg :nws:

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Nibbles! posted:

There's the general deterrence aspect, if others get caught and people know investigations occur you'd hope they're less likely to do it themselves.

I'd also wager a large portion of people abusing the system are closer to middle-class. Didn't the last full scale investigation show pensioners were the biggest group defrauding the system?

It's always the way, they make a song and dance about welfare fraud till they realise it's OAP who commit it then it gets shelved as a waste of money and time.

edit: Forgot my own drat gimmick

:nws: http://i.imgur.com/GK35Soy.jpg :nws:

Birb Katter fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Feb 3, 2016

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https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/694327787889528832

https://twitter.com/ABFComm/status/694425943159414784

:nws: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maigg1Mty61r13tm3o1_1280.jpg :nws:

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Amethyst posted:

Twitter is the worst thing in the world. Propaganda, but memetastic!

Twitter can be quite decent for a bunch of stuff but in this instance whoever wins we lose is definitely the case

:nws: http://i.imgur.com/xwlmh67.jpg :nws:

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One of these is going to be a doge and one is going to be a pavel. You have a 50/50 shot at getting what you want. Would you like to play?

http://i.imgur.com/tm4Mf7l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/d2yMima.jpg

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Laserface posted:

If I posted pics of women dressed in a similar fashion this thread would lose its loving mind and I'd be probated or banned for it. But gay almost-porn is ok because we dare not say gay stuff is inappropriate. People might think you are homophobic or something.

You were a lot prettier before you opened your mouth to talk about poo poo you obviously got wrong. Just because Pavel doesn't fit your idea of gender norms doesn't make him gay.

This is some proper NWS Pavel if you were walking the line at work.
:nws: http://40.media.tumblr.com/1c0be80630f9206d717a4d058bc7e601/tumblr_mlf7239yHm1r13tm3o5_1280.jpg :nws:

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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:

WTF you doing birbs? Trying to prove that if white people post bomb instructions on the 'net they don't get busted for it?

In a nutshell, yes. There was also a chunk of 'this is bad even by auspol standards' too.


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