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VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




IMO if we are going to classify SUVs and pick-ups as being trucks (and thus hold them to lower safety and emissions standards), we should require people to have a special license to drive them, with heightened safety training.

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PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
can we also talked about turn signal lights? no , im not talking about red turn signals.

im talking about yellow/amber lights that arent yellow/amber enough or arent big enough, or theyre next to white lights that are brighter than them or has some yellow itself. at night the low setting seems brighter, and even daytime driving lights can be brighter.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


DuckDuckGoAndFuckoffWithAI

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Professor Beetus posted:

we really need some regulations on cars to strip out all this unnecessary electronic poo poo that doesn't do anything except jack off tech bros and make cars more unsafe in a variety of different ways
I've said for at least 3 years now,

Shrecknet posted:

cars without computer controllers are going to be very valuable after "the incident"

Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Apr 13, 2024

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...
An electronic seat sliding adjustment fails when the seat is set right up against the wheel.

And I hate that I have to use a vehicle, and whats more I want rolley-windows back you sons of bitches.

Nervous
Jan 25, 2005

Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.

BRJurgis posted:

An electronic seat sliding adjustment fails when the seat is set right up against the wheel.

And I hate that I have to use a vehicle, and whats more I want rolley-windows back you sons of bitches.

You can still lean over and use the passenger side window button like a weirdo hth

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Professor Beetus posted:

Jesus Christ we really need some regulations on cars to strip out all this unnecessary electronic poo poo that doesn't do anything except jack off tech bros and make cars more unsafe in a variety of different ways, to their drivers, pedestrians, and other drivers. And while they're at it they should regulate the size of trucks and SUVs to reasonable levels so that they aren't perfectly sized for not being able to see children or animals darting in front of them.

This loving stupid rear end car brained country sucks poo poo

IMO a car should be simple and easy to work on and repair and last 40 years

Roadie
Jun 30, 2013

shoeberto posted:

We just re-launched DuckAssist, which is our attempt at a responsible LLM question-answering service: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+are+fursuits+made&t=newext&atb=v301-1&ia=web

I know y'all are generally cold on LLMs but I'm curious to get feedback on your experience with it. In particular I've been driving forward our validation process - basically making sure we don't show outright lies to users. I'd really appreciate hearing from perspectives that are more critical than our internal testing.

Your fancy thing there doesn't even answer the actual question, though.

StumblyWumbly
Sep 12, 2007

Batmanticore!

His Divine Shadow posted:

IMO a car should be simple and easy to work on and repair and last 40 years

This exists and is called a bicycle

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

His Divine Shadow posted:

IMO a car should be simple and easy to work on and repair and last 40 years

That's a Miata

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

Roadie posted:

Your fancy thing there doesn't even answer the actual question, though.

Others have mentioned this - it's a valid criticism and one that I'm specifically looking out for. From my perspective, it summarized the most salient pieces from the relevant Wikipedia article, and satisfied my curiosity despite being vague. As I'm watching this rollout, that's one of the things I'm trying to uncover - like at scale how well is this actually suiting people's needs, and what do we need to do to make it better?

busalover
Sep 12, 2020
Is it only working in the US right now? I'm in Europe, and can't see it.

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

busalover posted:

Is it only working in the US right now? I'm in Europe, and can't see it.

I think it's either only in English search regions or if your locale is set to English - don't recall which. Default search region is usually your country but you can change it on the top-left of the results page.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Professor Beetus posted:

Jesus Christ we really need some regulations on cars to strip out all this unnecessary electronic poo poo that doesn't do anything except jack off tech bros and make cars more unsafe in a variety of different ways, to their drivers, pedestrians, and other drivers. And while they're at it they should regulate the size of trucks and SUVs to reasonable levels so that they aren't perfectly sized for not being able to see children or animals darting in front of them.

This loving stupid rear end car brained country sucks poo poo

Welcome to the Automotive Insanity resistance

JFC I hate the current crop of average vehicles right now.

Roadie
Jun 30, 2013
Just eliminate the 'light truck' rule and apply the same standards across the board for passenger vehicles and a lot of that size inflation would evaporate on the spot.

Jesus III
May 23, 2007
Also get rid of the chicken tax and let us get small trucks from Europe and Asia.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Apply minimum visibility requirements for vehicles driveable on a standard license - if a 170cm driver can't see obstacles of height X at distance Y then the vehicle requires a commercial license.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

mobby_6kl posted:

That's a Miata

I was gonna lead to the conclusion that it's my Saab 900 but it's only 34. But it'll make 40 easily at this rate.

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this

His Divine Shadow posted:

IMO a car should be simple and easy to work on and repair and last 40 years

The price for that is worse gas mileage, less safety and more pollution.
Yes, all the doodads inside the cabin are useless, but stuffing computers into the engine has been an objectively good thing.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Kyte posted:

The price for that is worse gas mileage, less safety and more pollution.
Yes, all the doodads inside the cabin are useless, but stuffing computers into the engine has been an objectively good thing.

Absolutly none of the "easy to work on and last" precludes engine bay electronics or better pollution controls or safer in a crash.

Simple.... yeah I'll give you that one abeit some 30+ year old cars are truly hosed in the head to work on in ways some modern stuff cant achieve and TBH some modern cars diag abilities make them way easier to work on esp when they work with cheap scanners. The ones that need special equipment to diag can gently caress the hell off.

Surprise T Rex
Apr 9, 2008

Dinosaur Gum
The thing with LLMs in search is that I know search results are full of garbage LLM SEO bullshit so I’m instantly wary of any “summary” style panel on the result page because it’s probably grabbed a snippet from one of those that did the SEO ritual correctly, and some automatic process has seen that and presented it to me. Automatic summarisation also has the risk of inventing completely false information (even if it’s summarising a 100% correct source) and presenting it to me very convincingly.

If I’m typing a query into a search engine I am looking for a list of websites with content that might answer that question or content related to that query, not for some magic error prone algorithm to try to second-guess my actual question and provide an answer it “thinks” I want. Honestly I hardly ever actually type a question “how are fursuits made?” vs like “making fursuit” or “fursuit materials” or something, which makes the LLM natural language thing even less applicable.

Having a human-curated site quality ranking system in a search engine would be a thousand times more useful to me than Clippy 2.0: Making poo poo Up Edition, but obviously that has the problems of being both insanely expensive and basically unmanageable, plus not being able to connect your company cash flow to the infinite AI money firehose, so rip.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Surprise T Rex posted:

Having a human-curated site quality ranking system in a search engine would be a thousand times more useful to me than Clippy 2.0

Three words: Quora. lol. Lmao.

It's not exactly a search engine, but it's human curated and sure loves to show up in my search results and oh boy it's all poo poo. I have an extension just to block any and all search results related to quora because this is one of the shittiest things to exist. That and all the Pinterest results. Human curation was a mistake.

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

Surprise T Rex posted:

Honestly I hardly ever actually type a question “how are fursuits made?” vs like “making fursuit” or “fursuit materials” or something, which makes the LLM natural language thing even less applicable.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Boris Galerkin posted:

Three words: Quora. lol. Lmao.

It's not exactly a search engine, but it's human curated and sure loves to show up in my search results and oh boy it's all poo poo. I have an extension just to block any and all search results related to quora because this is one of the shittiest things to exist. That and all the Pinterest results. Human curation was a mistake.

The people that answer questions on that or Amazon product questions with "I don't know." :negative:

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Neo Rasa posted:

The people that answer questions on that or Amazon product questions with "I don't know." :negative:

I think that happens because people get emails asking about the product from Amazon. They aren't necessarily going to the product page and entering an "I don't know" response.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Neo Rasa posted:

The people that answer questions on that or Amazon product questions with "I don't know." :negative:
I think this is a side effect of how Amazon emails people who buy stuff for feedback/question answering. People probably think it's a generic response form, or don't realize that they can or should leave nothing if they have no answer.

The Lone Badger posted:

Apply minimum visibility requirements for vehicles driveable on a standard license - if a 170cm driver can't see obstacles of height X at distance Y then the vehicle requires a commercial license.

Also, create a parking space size standard. So sick of big trucks blocking a bunch of a sidewalk because they're too big to fit in the space normally so they gotta shove their rear end all over the sidewalk

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

what kind of kid knows what the word syntax is?

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




PhazonLink posted:

what kind of kid knows what the word syntax is?

The person using the old syntax' kid. Weird thing is, I've been asking search engines natural language questions for 20+ years and it's worked fine, you just need to use the keywords. My theory is, that even with a dumb search engine, if it's indexed someone asking your question, it has a result for you, and if not it'll use keywords.

PS. On Google you can turn the AI summaries off.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
As if Amazon (or Comcast, or Google or ATT or my job) gives a gently caress about my feedback/opinion.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

This guy is searching for the exact string "brussel sprouts air fryer temperature time" which isn't helpful. He should be writing "brussel sprouts" "air fryer" temperature time

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Volmarias posted:

This guy is searching for the exact string "brussel sprouts air fryer temperature time" which isn't helpful. He should be writing "brussel sprouts" "air fryer" temperature time

That was bothering me too.

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Quora is bar none the most unreadable bullshit I’ve ever seen. You get one answer and then a promoted post and a list of related questions before the next actual answer which is followed by more promos and related questions.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
"Enshittification will continue until revenue improves."

Barrel Cactaur
Oct 6, 2021

Volmarias posted:

This guy is searching for the exact string "brussel sprouts air fryer temperature time" which isn't helpful. He should be writing "brussel sprouts" "air fryer" temperature time

Google will helpfully silently strip that and reword your search to be about green giant brussel sprouts, your current search sponsor

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Mr. Nemo posted:

Youtube making moves against Opera. I don't even know where to retreat now.

I guess I may finally break and try that Brave thing?

LibreWolf seems to so far be totally unaffected by YouTube's fuckery

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
everything that isnt Firefox is chromebased, im sorry FF hurt you and you have to hold the line.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Barrel Cactaur posted:

Google will helpfully silently strip that and reword your search to be about green giant brussel sprouts, your current search sponsor

They're actually generally good, usually. They do strip it if they think it's going to get no results, which, gently caress you just show me that.

That said, the fact that we can't get actual results anymore because the results are so thoroughly polluted is another reason why We Can't Have Nice Things as a species.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

PhazonLink posted:

everything that isnt Firefox is chromebased, im sorry FF hurt you and you have to hold the line.

Hey there's also WebKit lol

No but really I think most Mac users use Safari. There are dozens of us.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

PhazonLink posted:

what kind of kid knows what the word syntax is?

One who's been taught literally any programming, on any platform.

PhazonLink posted:

everything that isnt Firefox is chromebased, im sorry FF hurt you and you have to hold the line.

Librewolf is a Firefox fork.

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Doctor Yiff
Jan 2, 2008

Brave was founded by Brendan Eich. gently caress that guy and his lovely crypto browser.

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