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When the first major group of breeding humans is sent to Mars to colonize it, what will the racial balance be like? Will they be predominantly one race, a carefully balanced and screened mixture to promote racial harmony, or will the selection process be race-blind and potentially have an imbalance in racial representation on Mars?
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Feb 7, 2016 17:17
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Only pygmies, to decrease the weight of the spacecraft.
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Feb 7, 2016 17:43
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les fleurs du mall posted:When the first major group of breeding humans is sent to Mars to colonize it, what will the racial balance be like? Will they be predominantly one race, a carefully balanced and screened mixture to promote racial harmony, or will the selection process be race-blind and potentially have an imbalance in racial representation on Mars? I think they'll end up being primarily of Chinese descent, at least once the Wong family comes into possession of the planet.
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Feb 7, 2016 17:46
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It'll be like 10 years before Musk sends Colony One and I can't imagine we'll still recognize concepts like "race" that far into the future.
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Feb 7, 2016 18:30
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Step aside Dark Continent. We got a whole goddamn Dark Planet here!
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Feb 7, 2016 18:33
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Here's a better question: why is it a good idea to poo poo up the first Mars colony with identity politics?
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Feb 7, 2016 18:36
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-Troika- posted:Here's a better question: why is it a good idea to poo poo up the first Mars colony with identity politics? No my question is better
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Feb 7, 2016 18:38
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-Troika- posted:Here's a better question: why is it a good idea to poo poo up the first Mars colony with identity politics? Because the USA cannot do anything without bringing race into it.
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Feb 7, 2016 18:39
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Good job with the opening post. If you will allow me to have one complaint, I think you are discounting the roles that nuclear energy, Silicon Valley startups, and Bernie Sanders all play in this political issue.
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Feb 7, 2016 18:42
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silence_kit posted:Good job with the opening post. If you will allow me to have one complaint, I think you are discounting the roles that nuclear energy, Silicon Valley startups, and Bernie Sanders all play in this political issue. It is the Red Planet after all!
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Feb 7, 2016 18:48
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I find your insistence on breeding humans to be, shall we say, problematic
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Feb 7, 2016 19:38
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Probably it will be representative of the prejudices and ideology of the group in control of the matter. So like if the USA had one right now there'd be mostly white people and a few Asians and blacks but no hispanics.
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Feb 7, 2016 20:07
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I don't know but I sure as gently caress know my daughter won't be allowed to date any of the low-G mutant freaks who grow up on Mars.
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Feb 7, 2016 21:03
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Radiation could make them sterile - maybe like in 'Interstellar' they would need to bring a supply of sperm and eggs kept in lead-lined cryogenics.
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Feb 7, 2016 21:06
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They will all be Chinese, OP. China will win the space race to Mars. The next colony will be white Russians. We'll still be here humming and hawing over the right mix of ethnicities while the rocket rusts away on the launchpad
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Feb 7, 2016 21:25
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Racial mix doesn't matter much as long as Mars is exclusively colonized by lesbians who reproduce via scientific parthenogenesis.
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Feb 7, 2016 21:59
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7c Nickel posted:Racial mix doesn't matter much as long as Mars is exclusively colonized by lesbians who reproduce via scientific parthenogenesis. They could also reproduce via unscientific parthogenesis don't be a hater.
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Feb 8, 2016 00:40
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Recruit affluent whites for mars colony, fake colony footage with cgi, empty ships into vacuum of space, repeat
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Feb 8, 2016 00:48
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7c Nickel posted:Racial mix doesn't matter much as long as Mars is exclusively colonized by lesbians who reproduce via scientific parthenogenesis. no, parthenogenic women are from Venus
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Feb 8, 2016 00:55
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les fleurs du mall posted:When the first major group of breeding humans is sent to Mars to colonize it, what will the racial balance be like? Will they be predominantly one race, a carefully balanced and screened mixture to promote racial harmony, or will the selection process be race-blind and potentially have an imbalance in racial representation on Mars? I'll let you know when I finish reading this Kim Stanley Robinson novel.
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Feb 8, 2016 01:05
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Everyone is going to be a nice mocha color by the time we actually send anyone to Mars. Everyone except for the Synodic Eugenicist's Purification Legionnaires, they'll probably be a sickly translucent grey. Will the O'Neill cylinder occupants at the Lagrange points be subject to the tyranny of the Earth dwellers?
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Feb 8, 2016 01:06
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Honestly it's going to be really cool when we encounter alien life for the first time and conquer or destroy it because it's primitive and weird instead of being like, technologically superior and either enlightened or terrifying like Vulcans or Predators.
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Feb 8, 2016 01:12
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Potential BFF posted:Everyone is going to be a nice mocha color by the time we actually send anyone to Mars. Nah, plenty of developing cultures already have the ingrained message that "Paler skin = superiority". Even if they are racially diverse, they are probably going to be taking steps to lighten their skin and/or actively or subconsciously favoring lighter skinned people. White people going to rule the world, even when it's a new world and they aren't of European stock.
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Feb 8, 2016 01:17
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Boogaleeboo posted:Nah, plenty of developing cultures already have the ingrained message that "Paler skin = superiority". Staying inside a palace all day long, giving orders and getting served: paler skin. Toiling outside in the fields: more suntan, therefore darker skin. This is pretty much universal. Ironically we've moved a bit away from that in the white-skinned west because: staying outside all day long playing golf and tennis while riding horses on a yacht: more suntan; toiling inside in a factory or office all day long: paler skin.
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Feb 8, 2016 02:04
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Potential BFF posted:Everyone is going to be a nice mocha color by the time we actually send anyone to Mars. Everyone except for the Synodic Eugenicist's Purification Legionnaires, they'll probably be a sickly translucent grey. Ironically the beautiful mocha future will still be just as racist, they'll just be more fixated on how baggy your spacesuit is than skin color.
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Feb 8, 2016 03:11
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I guess a serious answer is that they may end up with issues even reproducing due to the radiation risks.
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Feb 8, 2016 03:43
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Boogaleeboo posted:Nah, plenty of developing cultures already have the ingrained message that "Paler skin = superiority". Even if they are racially diverse, they are probably going to be taking steps to lighten their skin and/or actively or subconsciously favoring lighter skinned people. White people going to rule the world, even when it's a new world and they aren't of European stock. I don't dispute your point but the effects of whitening creams of dubious chemical composition don't get passed on, unless they're teratogenic which I guess isn't off the table in some places! Squalid posted:Ironically the beautiful mocha future will still be just as racist, they'll just be more fixated on how baggy your spacesuit is than skin color. I don't want anything to do with a future that hasn't moved onto flexible compression suits or articulated hardsuits. Besides, we all know vat-born labor synthetics are the real enemy. Whether you're hardy colonist stock from the inner expansion ring or a sanctioned resident of one of lower hab-blocks of Neo York, you can take pride that your genes don't come with a corporate logo.
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Feb 8, 2016 08:44
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The first Mars colony will obviously be all-gay because can you imagine how annoying it would be to be stuck in a dome with a bunch of women? Reproduction will be entirely artificial and the parties will be amazing.
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Feb 8, 2016 09:49
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white people in blackface exclusively, imo
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Feb 8, 2016 10:18
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who gives a gently caress about mars?
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Feb 8, 2016 11:52
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There's no way the US will send a government funded colony to Mars for any reason other than a dick-waving contest with China, in which case we might see a token black dude and some non-Chinese Asians. Much more likely the colony will be a privately funded venture and Mars will be populated solely by Donald Trumps and Martin Shkrelis. It'll be practically impossible for anyone without a massive trust fund to ever live there, but no one will greatly mourn the loss because the alternative is sharing a planet with those people.
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Feb 8, 2016 11:53
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Why on earth is this even a question? Oh hey there is a pun there.
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Feb 8, 2016 12:46
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Mars will be a gated, white only community. The black man must never be allowed to set foot on the red planet. Seriously though, maybe we should actually give NASA the funding they'd need to get to Mars before we start worrying about diversity quotas. Volcott fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Feb 8, 2016 |
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Feb 8, 2016 12:53
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The first babies born on another planet will be IVF with international pairings.
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Feb 8, 2016 14:26
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McDowell posted:The first babies born on another planet will be IVF with international pairings. They will also die within the first 48h. Toxx me on this please.
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Feb 8, 2016 14:59
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Mars will be all First Nations/Native American peoples. We hosed up their home, it's time to find them a new one. Alternate answer: Scientologists looking to establish an Israel/Deseret-like religious homeland. Or nuke it. I have no idea if scientologists love or hate space, I just know they have strong feelings on the matter.
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Feb 8, 2016 15:10
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DrProsek posted:Mars will be all First Nations/Native American peoples. We hosed up their home, it's time to find them a new one. DrProsek posted:Alternate answer: Scientologists looking to establish an Israel/Deseret-like religious homeland. Or nuke it. I have no idea if scientologists love or hate space, I just know they have strong feelings on the matter.
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Feb 8, 2016 15:13
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Helsing posted:I don't know but I sure as gently caress know my daughter won't be allowed to date any of the low-G mutant freaks who grow up on Mars. Considering she will be several months of travel time through deep space away from you if she decides to date them, I can't possibly see how you could avoid that. Would be hilarious if you angrily jump into the next space ship to follow her only for it to have a lethal malfunction two weeks later. 
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Feb 8, 2016 15:19
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Kajeesus posted:Much more likely the colony will be a privately funded venture and Mars will be populated solely by Donald Trumps and Martin Shkrelis. It'll be practically impossible for anyone without a massive trust fund to ever live there  You know, like how the new world colonies were founded by a bunch of guys who took advantage of distance from the old world papacy's distaste for native-killing and mass enslavement. Rodatose fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Feb 8, 2016 |
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Feb 8, 2016 16:38
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Mars has the advantage of being ghost-free.  You're incredibly wrong.
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