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SystemLogoff posted:Thinking about it, if the witch defeats the sorcerer does that change her class to hero? Depends on how she carries on afterwards. She could be a hero (but likely just for one day).
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Fuckin Trump Riot posted:Okay, that, I'll give you. He really puts the "idiot" in "idiot savant." He's doing all of this stuff that supposedly "competent" characters can't do. I think you're not giving him enough credit 
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SatansOnion posted:Depends on how she carries on afterwards. She could be a hero (but likely just for one day). Paging Ziggy to the mutiny. Ziggy, to the mutiny.
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I got the impression the Sorcerer was competent when someone ticked him off but was mostly coasting on his magic the entire time.
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Dec 4, 2016 22:10
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Aw. I figured New Game+ would be a Sorceror-optional run or something.
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Canto VI, Stanza 4, Verse 1: Book of Revelations Heh heh. Frank said they'd be here any minute. He'll never know what hit him. Heh heh. Frank said they're just up ahead. She'll never know what hit her. HA! HA! ... ... God dammit Frank You guys are idiots. Got it out of your systems now? I could've taken you Screw off, hippie Knock it the gently caress off. We got a boss to deal with. Hi? Am I still stabbing Willow, or...? I swear to God, you three get your poo poo together, or I'm turning this party around right now. Hahahaha we meet again sorcerer! ... ... ...yes! Here we are, meeting again, in this book where we know each other! You have no idea who I am. Things get a little dicey with the whole memory thing around here. That would explain why I don't remember the horns. That's about the only way you can forget them. Yeah, they're pretty striking.    Well la-dee-dah. What, you want a loving blue ribbon or something? This time our duel will not end in a stalemate, but victory! Face the wrath of Pluvius! ... Pluvius. Pluvius? That's what he said. Pluvius. Huh. ... I mean, why would you even do that to your kid? Beats me. This will be all too easy. I listened to your party members on the way up. You're falling apart at the seams already. Perhaps I could interest your witch in... a new contract? ... I treat my summons with respect, Willow. Follow me, and you will no longer face scorn and stupidity. You will keep my undead hordes marching forward as their mighty commander, breaking your foes before you! Sounds pretty sweet! Too bad I already have a job! What Need a smokescreen, Vlad! On it, chief. What? Why? Your summons were lying in wait to kill you not five minutes ago! Or as we like to call it, Tuesday. It's Wednesday. Meh. Seriously, though. You think this is the first time we've done this? gently caress, I get worried if at least one of these assholes isn't planning to kill me. I'm coming up with plans to kill you in your sleep right now, chief!  I know you are, bro. I know you are. What is even going on  Look, I don't know how you roll with all these Babby's First Summon morons you keep throwing into the meat grinder, but around here, we come correct. Now, hold still. This'll sting a lil'. hrrrkgrkI'm gonna be flat honest with you. It's a combination of our loving ridiculous drops and having Frank in the party at this stage of the game, but Pluvius was an absolute joke of a fight, and I don't remember a single remarkable thing about it. I've combed through all of the screenshots for this, and I've found all of one where any of our guys has less than max HP. It was Willow. She healed up to full soon after. Clearly, he didn't do anything impressive, and I know for a fact his buddies weren't gonna do poo poo against our armor. How about a little fire, Scarecrow? Because I'm a witch, you see! How long have you been waiting to use that line? You have no idea. Probably should've saved it for when you cast Witchfire, though. Hey, I'm not getting any younger. How about a little fire, Scarecrow?  Seriously?We don't even need our big guns. We can just keep doing what we've always done, and it'll work just fine. ow ow ow must cast spells One of you idiots do something Rr?  hrk Hey. Hey, Frank. Hey. Hey. ...? Isn't he a mage? ...  Hate mages so much. ... So very much.Yeah. As you can see, the fight doesn't last very long. We mop up his goons afterwards...     ...and we're done here. I don't even think this lasted ten rounds. In Paper Sorcerer terms, that's a speedrun. Pluvius is hilariously bad at the necromancy. Maybe this fight goes down a little different without Frank in the party, but he's a dimestore Miles, and you should be able to wreck his poo poo if you were able to get this far. Plus, we get this!  ! Chief? The untold dark mysteries of the universe have revealed themselves to me! Yeah? Like what? I know where socks go when they get lost in the dryer. Mortal man was not meant to have that knowledge!! Oh, and I got a big-rear end ice spell. Neat.The Sorceror is seriously going to ruin someone's poo poo when we take the safeties off. I've been testing the Big Damage Spells™ off camera for a little bit, and I think you'll be pleased. I know I was.  Well, time for another disappointing chest after a boss fight. You'd think they could at least keep the good stuff back here. You saw that guy, right? I wouldn't trust him with my laundry, let alone a magical artifact. Hrgh... urrrg... Oh, what the gently caress? Why can't you assholes just stay dead?! Urgh....I see you've been training too. Your even stronger now...*cough*..but it doesn't matter, heh. He produces a blood red gem from the folds of his robe. Oh. Um. Yeah, I'm scared of the thing that happened. I mean, how could I forget it? ... Because it was so terrifying. That thing I remember. I had hoped to beat you with my magic, to prove the superiority of my art. In the end, though, a victory is a victory. Man, that's practically our motto at this point. Goodbye...Sorcerer. Shouldn't we, I dunno, stop him or something? Ehn. I'm good. You fuckers. He smashes the gem on the ground. ... ... Nothing happens. Ahahahahaha you're a failure at literally the one thing you've spent your entire life doing  How is this possible! The spell was cast properly...I was sure...unless... The horns must've blocked it. Dang. Those things really are great. I know, right? *gasp* You're...not...the same person... You're drat right I'm not. I'm even more powerful now. He collapses, lifeless on the floor. And Sorceror is spelled with an 'o', you idiot. Okay, well. This was a complete waste of time. The hell was he doing guarding the binding, anyway? You'd think he'd want to get out of here as bad as we do. Maybe he just couldn't take being number two. Oh, he was definitely a number two. I don't follow. I meant poop. Still not following. ... ...sooooo, chief. Yeah? What was up with that "not the same person" stuff? The hell should I know? Our memory's been hosed since we got here. The only thing I know is I've been stuck with you jackasses before, I have awesome horns, and that guy couldn't necromance his way out of a wet paper bag with a hole in it. As far as I'm concerned, that's all I need. I dunno. Something about this feels off. Yeah. Between the four of us, you'd think we'd be able to piece together what happened. Um... I think... I think we're all missing the same memories. ...hmm. You may be right. ...come again? I agree with you. Something's hosed here, and I don't know what. ... Willow? Ssh. Ssh. Just wait a second. I want to savor this. You don't have to take a victory lap, assface. I'm just saying there's something we all need to SHPXSHPXSHPXVPNAGPBAGEBYZLZBHGU For gently caress's sake you could at least wait until I'm not in the middle of a sen—
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Chokes McGee posted:
I don't know if I hope this is a reference to my post or not.
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Ninja update too short. The people demand more! The betrayal went about as well as I expected. Good ole reliable Frank.
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Genocyber posted:Ninja update too short. The people demand more! YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME oh wait yes you are
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All we have to do is find a way to get rid of the bastard, and we can take over his whole operation. Boom, we're made men.
Llewyn! Llewyn! Where has that idiot gotten off to this time?
Last I heard, he was still moppin' the dungeon hallway like you told him to.
There you are, dearie. One lamp, as promised. I hope you appreciate the lengths I went to.
Et super omnem infirmitatem!
I'M SORRY BUT THAT WISH IS FORBIDDEN TO GRANT.
goo goo gah gah blrp
What's with the kid, boss?
Eh? What's going on out there?
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Nice to see you got your name back. Chokes, but what's with the duck avatar? Where did the evil puppet go?
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DGM_2 posted:Nice to see you got your name back. Chokes, but what's with the duck avatar? Where did the evil puppet go?  I'm right here, behind you.
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DGM_2 posted:Nice to see you got your name back. Chokes, but what's with the duck avatar? Where did the evil puppet go? It's a long running joke all the way back to FFL. Action Duck has been my recurring avatar for a while now, so whenever I need a placeholder for myself in LPs, I use the duck. It's a duck. He does action. Yeah. HardDiskD posted:
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At last, my (second) favorite moment in the game and one that reminds you: "Oh yeah, this game actually has some pretty funny writing." You can definitely see the influence of the classic Wizardry games and The Bard's Tale in scenes like this. And Chokes' writing and this game's go together like PB&J so that just makes it even better.
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Genocyber posted:You can definitely see the influence of the classic Wizardry games and The Bard's Tale in scenes like this. Mostly in the lack of proofreading.
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Does this mean that when Pluvius broke the gem to destroy the 'sorceror', somewhere in the world a tiny malevolent baby keeled over and died? 
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Picayune posted:Does this mean that when Pluvius broke the gem to destroy the 'sorceror', somewhere in the world a tiny malevolent baby keeled over and died? We're in another dimension from which no magic can escape, so no. And yeah, Pluvius is a push over. His minions can hit for a decent amount, but after going through several walls which brutalize you, they might as well be a pleasant breeze. Also you can use sleep and paralysis to take them out of the fight and deal with Pluvius one-on-one, just to make it more insulting. IIRC he does actually summon his minions back if you kill em, but meh. Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Dec 21, 2016 |
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Given the nature of time in the book it might have been a millennia old dried mummy that just turned a little more to dust.
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Genocyber posted:At last, my (second) favorite moment in the game and one that reminds you: "Oh yeah, this game actually has some pretty funny writing." You can definitely see the influence of the classic Wizardry games and The Bard's Tale in scenes like this. And Chokes' writing and this game's go together like PB&J so that just makes it even better. Coming into the game, I already suspected/knew Llewyn was the apprentice and not the original Sorcerer, so I've been working towards that reveal even as I got into uncharted territory. What I didn't expect was the game to make him a colossal idiot, too. 
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The master's pretty dumb too. I mean, has there ever been a documented case of wishing for more wishes ever working? How dumb do you have to be to realize that and think this means you were the first dude with the impossible cunning to come up with such a foolproof plan I do give credit for freeing them from the lamp while keeping them in a prison of your own design.
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ManxomeBromide posted:The master's pretty dumb too. I mean, has there ever been a documented case of wishing for more wishes ever working? One.
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ManxomeBromide posted:The master's pretty dumb too. I mean, has there ever been a documented case of wishing for more wishes ever working? How dumb do you have to be to realize that and think this means you were the first dude with the impossible cunning to come up with such a foolproof plan Wizards are known for their mental aptitude, not for their profound sense of humbleness.
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ManxomeBromide posted:The master's pretty dumb too. I mean, has there ever been a documented case of wishing for more wishes ever working? How dumb do you have to be to realize that and think this means you were the first dude with the impossible cunning to come up with such a foolproof plan That mmmmmay have been embellishment on my part. 
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I've never played the game myself, so I honestly can't tell what's the actual story and what you add in; your stuff just fits so well.
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Oh, so that's why the game's called Paper Sorcerer. Clever.
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Weeble posted:I've never played the game myself, so I honestly can't tell what's the actual story and what you add in; your stuff just fits so well. Like I said, I legit had no idea how well the narration I'm coming up with was going to fit to the actual story. Also the summons are going to give Llewyn so much poo poo now that they know the truth.  Thuryl posted:Oh, so that's why the game's called Paper Sorcerer. Clever. Yeah. The guy who made it can't copyedit worth a good goddamn, but his ideas are fantastic. The "Read the best seller yourself!" after the quasi spirit reveal cracked me the gently caress up.
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Man, I forgot that existed. Thanks for remembering! Chokes, man, this LP is so excellent. I'm glad the LP curse hasn't managed to take you down yet.
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Yeah, I was wondering how you were going to deal with the reveal since you said at the beginning you hadn't fully played through the game.
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My favorite response to a wish for more wishes is to turn the wisher into a genie.
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ManxomeBromide posted:The master's pretty dumb too. I mean, has there ever been a documented case of wishing for more wishes ever working? Actually as a kid I read a book about the same premise, about some kid who discovers the same loophole (in fact, I think I learned the word "loophole" from that book). It comes back to bite him in the end, though, because eventually he needs to use all three wishes to save the town and the genie is too exhausted from all the other wishes to comply.
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It's spelled 'Llewellyn' though, isn't it?
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CommissarMega posted:It's spelled 'Llewellyn' though, isn't it? He got the horns by taking the Ls out his name to craft them
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CommissarMega posted:It's spelled 'Sorcerer' though, isn't it?
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CommissarMega posted:It's spelled 'Llewellyn' though, isn't it? As the resident Welshman, I can in fact confirm that Llewyn is a perfectly valid welsh name that's been used, as a short form of Llewellyn , or possibly a corruption of Llawen. Due to the fact that Welsh is, effectively, a language that's been necromanced to hell and back (Although it has some very simple rules regarding concatenation and grammar that are similar to German, so we can be fairly confident of all but the more recent welsh words and phrasings), we can't be 100% sure. Nonetheless, it may be interesting to note that Llewyn would, technically, translate to "Of the Lion" , although this is considered a folk belief. To further muddy the waters, a lot of these opinions come from english scholars. The same english scholars who somehow managed to turn what's most likely a scottish onomatopoeia into a folkloric monster, and claimed that Annwn is a land of the dead or fairies (Annwn, original spelling Anhwn, Lit. "Not here".) Other welsh names have other interesting potential meanings. For example, some from the Mabinogion. Pwyll - Literally "Prudence/Prudent." Highly fitting, considering his story arc in the Mabinogion. Branwen - Fran y wyn, "the White Crow." Supporting this is her big brother (in every sense) Bendegeidfran - Ben dy Gwyd Fran "Head of the White Crow" (Gwyd and Gwyn are both spellings of white) Blodauwedd - "Floral Guise" . She was made of flowers to be the bride of... Lleu Llaw Gyffes - Etymology unclear, but if you want someone who had an even sillier weakness than Achilles, look no further! How to kill a Welsh Hero in the most convoluted manner possible. And still gently caress it up. posted:Blodeuwedd tricks Lleu into revealing how he may be killed, since he cannot be killed during the day or night, nor indoors or outdoors, neither riding nor walking, not clothed and not naked, nor by any weapon lawfully made. He reveals to her that he can only be killed at dusk, wrapped in a net with one foot on a cauldron and one on a goat and with a spear forged for a year during the hours when everyone is at mass. With this information she arranges his death. 
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That seems like a decent way to be mostly invincible. But how did he figure out how to turn into an eagle?
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vorebane posted:That seems like a decent way to be mostly invincible. But how did he figure out how to turn into an eagle? Oh, that's easy. He was part of Math's branch of the family, who were all wizards, and so could shapeshift, make illusions of vast wealth, make wives out of flowers then turn them into owls (A nickname for white owls is Blodau Wyn - "White Flower", and they were considered baaaaad omens as a result of Blodauwedd's treachery) when it turns out that doesn't work out so good. :P
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JamieTheD posted:Oh, that's easy. He was part of Math's branch of the family, who were all wizards, and so could shapeshift, make illusions of vast wealth, make wives out of flowers then turn them into owls (A nickname for white owls is Blodau Wyn - "White Flower", and they were considered baaaaad omens as a result of Blodauwedd's treachery) when it turns out that doesn't work out so good. :P Well, if Eversion and Undertale taught me anything, it's that flowers are assholes.
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JamieTheD posted:As the resident Welshman, wwwwwwywwwllwwwyrh.
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JamieTheD posted:make wives out of flowers then turn them into owls So he might have gotten drunk and made a wife to betray himself, then. Welp I found this on the internet, not yet not convinced it's not an elaborate joke! http://www.mabinogion.info/math.htm vorebane fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Dec 23, 2016 |
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