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I think that the legalistic wishes are actually multiple wishes, because they have "and" in them. I wish I could be transported back in time to the year 1999. I wish I could have my mind transferred into my 1999 self. I wish I could have that whole process repeated any time I like just by drinking a can of diet RC cola.
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Celot posted:I think that the legalistic wishes are actually multiple wishes, because they have "and" in them. Have you ever read the Kurt Vonnegut novel "Timequake"? Everybody in the world has their consciousness sent back 10 years in time, only to realise that their actions are deterministic and that they repeat every action they had previously done, step by step, with their consciousness not directing matters. If at any point you drank a can of diet RC cola since 1999 that wish also leads you into an infinite and eternal time loop, where you observe the actions taken between 1999 and your can of cola, powerless to do anything. Forever. (This will happen anyway, even if you didn't drink the cola, as your deterministic body makes the same time loop causing wish in 2016, over and over again.)
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Feb 23, 2016 12:52
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:That only works as long as 'you' exist and 'what I'm satisfied with' doesn't change at all for any reason though. Hence you might get a forever groundhog moment where time as we know it just stops because neither you nor the universe are allowed to change, or you might die immediately and your wish gets corrupted right afterwards. That's a good point, so in that case I should instead say "Ensure that, given a full understanding of the ultimate results of the wish and its consequences, I would be happy as I am at present (so the wish can't change "what makes me happy" to "killing a million people" or something)." I can't really think of how that could go wrong. If I knew that there would be undesirable results at some point (including "me being unhappy about the wish in the future", since that would be one of the consequences of the wish), I wouldn't be happy with the outcome of the wish. And the wish can't change what I would be satisfied with since I'm specifying that it must be me as I am at present (if it changed how I felt it would no longer be "me as I am at present). It can't do something like freeze time, since I would obviously not be think positively of such an outcome. Celot posted:I think that the legalistic wishes are actually multiple wishes, because they have "and" in them. Ah, this is an interesting limitation to impose.
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Feb 24, 2016 01:16
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I'd look him/her in the eye, smirk like I know something they don't, and not ask anything.
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Feb 24, 2016 06:49
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DrSunshine posted:Waiiiit! Before you hit "reply" to answer with a sarcastic quip, give it a moment to think. NO! I want a BILLION dollars!!
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Feb 24, 2016 06:53
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I would wish for a logical impossibility, like that A equal not A, just to see what the gently caress would happen.
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Feb 24, 2016 07:36
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Izzhov posted:I would wish for a logical impossibility, like that A equal not A, just to see what the gently caress would happen. You'd be forced sit still for a couple of days while a bored math professor delves into the depths of set theory and fuzzy logic* with you.  *this actually exists
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Feb 24, 2016 07:53
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How about a 100kg cube of gold to appear, flush to the ground, right here on top of this X I made.
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Feb 24, 2016 08:03
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my dad posted:You'd be forced sit still for a couple of days while a bored math professor delves into the depths of set theory and fuzzy logic* with you. that's true, and it's me. math can be quite fun, you know. let's get started on our mathemagical journey. paraconsistent logics - what are they? it's actually not what you think, r
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Feb 24, 2016 08:14
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solaranus posted:How about a 100kg cube of gold to appear, flush to the ground, right here on top of this X I made. Your mouth fills with a sour taste as the air in front of you is bombarded with the perfect mix of high energy protons and neutrons to transmute 100kg of it into elemental gold. Your acute radiation damaged organs should continue to function for sixteen hours or so, so you'd best get to spending.
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Feb 24, 2016 08:59
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I'd wish everquest was real
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Feb 24, 2016 10:23
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KingFisher posted:I'd wish everquest was real Nothing changes, because the game was published, etc.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:27
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Izzhov posted:I would wish for a logical impossibility, like that A equal not A, just to see what the gently caress would happen. Everything and nothing happens. Your brain is no longer organized in such a way that you can experience it because gravity and electromagnetism have no compelling reason to stay consistent Matoi Ryuko posted:NO! I want a BILLION dollars!! Zimbabwe dollars My wish is for 3 wishes from the genie with the same rules as the wish I was given. Then, I wish to know how to make a genie wish that specifies my CEV. Then my third wish is whatever I think of after that. Have at it. Stinky_Pete fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Feb 24, 2016 |
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Feb 24, 2016 17:47
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Every nuclear warhead in the world to become an equivalent mass of platinum.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:52
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Every nuclear warhead in the world to become an equivalent mass of platinum. Generally speaking, I think we can be sure that any transmutation of atoms from one element to another is going to mean huge nuclear explosions and possibly nuclear winter and that whole EMP shebang that I've heard about.
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Feb 24, 2016 17:55
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What about just a wish for omnipotence? No more wishes needed. Never omniscience though. That poo poo would be bad.
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Feb 24, 2016 18:14
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DrSunshine posted:Waiiiit! Before you hit "reply" to answer with a sarcastic quip, give it a moment to think. It's actually kind of a fun thing to ponder if you're nerdy and have your head in the clouds all the time like me. I'd wish for the genie to spend his time inconveniencing all the rich people -- the richest they are, the more inconvenience they have to suffer, and no one can be inconvenienced as long as a richer person exists that has not been already inconvenienced. I figure if the genie is malicious and wants to inconvenience me, at least he'll have to first make me rich in the process.
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Feb 24, 2016 18:15
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Stinky_Pete posted:Generally speaking, I think we can be sure that any transmutation of atoms from one element to another is going to mean huge nuclear explosions and possibly nuclear winter and that whole EMP shebang that I've heard about. Even if we accept the theory of nuclear winter as gospel - and there's reasons to be a little skeptical that it would be quite as apocalyptic as Sagan and friends told us - even the old TTAPS model relied heavily on the premise that nukes hitting cities would ignite super-firestorms that would inject mass quantities of microscopic particulates into the upper atmosphere. That particulate debris is what would have blocked sunlight and caused the nuclear winter, but with most nuclear weapons sitting in underground silos or underwater submarines many miles away from urban centers, it's very unlikely we'd see a nuclear winter arising. EMP, if it occurs, will only be an issue in areas immediately surrounding the nuclear warheads. The "omg the bad guys will cripple Amerikkka with an EMP!!!  " scenario only applies to nuclear weapons detonated at very high altitude or low orbit above the earth.
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Feb 24, 2016 18:45
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Stinky_Pete posted:My wish is for 3 wishes from the genie with the same rules as the wish I was given. Then, I wish to know how to make a genie wish that specifies my CEV. Then my third wish is whatever I think of after that. Have at it.
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Feb 24, 2016 19:02
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Guavanaut posted:The second wish turns you into Eliezer Yudkowsky. You then either have to use your third wish to no longer be Eliezer Yudkowsky or get a wish but remain Eliezer Yudkowsky. gently caress. jk he seems like a self-actualized person who enjoys his life not the worst malicious genie outcome imo
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Feb 24, 2016 19:51
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I'd wish for the genie to fulfill its own deepest desire
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Feb 24, 2016 20:47
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OwlFancier posted:The entire middle eased is immediately reduced to a temperature of zero kelvin, condenses into a single, infinitely dense ball of Bose-Einstein condensate, and destroys all life on earth. Inshallah
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Feb 24, 2016 20:51
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OwlFancier posted:The entire middle eased is immediately reduced to a temperature of zero kelvin, condenses into a single, infinitely dense ball of Bose-Einstein condensate, and destroys all life on earth. Worth it!
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Feb 24, 2016 23:18
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I'd wish for the genie to be benevolent towards human life rather than malicious.
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Feb 24, 2016 23:32
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paragon1 posted:I'd wish for the genie to be benevolent towards human life rather than malicious. The genie will now protect all cancer cells from danger forever.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:03
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paragon1 posted:I'd wish for the genie to be benevolent towards human life rather than malicious. Unburdened by human survival instinct and emotions the genie decides that the nicest thing he can do for humans is to erase them from existence.
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Feb 25, 2016 03:45
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I'd wish for the next thing I say to be completely, 100%, totally true. Then I'd say "I'm lying." What NOW, Mr. Floaty McGeniepants?
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Feb 25, 2016 04:06
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I'd wish for the next thing I say to be completely, 100%, totally true. "Yes"
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Feb 25, 2016 04:16
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Unburdened by human survival instinct and emotions the genie decides that the nicest thing he can do for humans is to erase them from existence. If we have a genie that has just decided that words don't mean anything, then yeah sure. It's Wishmaster 3 levels of wish interpretation though.
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Feb 25, 2016 04:26
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I think if we're to figure out how to best the Genie, maybe we should look at the consequences of more "naive" wishes. As a case study I'd like to look at what would happen to Skee-Lo, were he to encounter such a being. We know that, as mentioned previously in the thread, if he were to be made a little bit taller, his spine would be painfully dislocated. Here are the remaining wishes: I wish I was a baller I wish I had a girl who looked good, I would call her I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat And a '64 impala
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Feb 25, 2016 17:35
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Octatonic posted:I wish I was a baller quote:I wish I had a girl who looked good, I would call her quote:I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat quote:And a '64 impala
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Feb 25, 2016 18:44
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On a more serious note, I think paragon1 has the best approach. Instead of skirting around the problem of the genie being malicious, his wish tackles the problem head-on.
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Feb 25, 2016 18:47
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Guavanaut posted:You get turned into a kitchen implement for cutting melon. You remain sentient but cannot taste the melon. Personally I figure that his girl that looked good he called would probably have him arrested for stalking, and his basketball career would be a poo poo contract in Lithuania, but I hadn't considered Mellon Ballers or Furry Muggings. Very nice.
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Feb 25, 2016 19:00
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my dad posted:On a more serious note, I think paragon1 has the best approach. Instead of skirting around the problem of the genie being malicious, his wish tackles the problem head-on. It makes assumptions about what a genie would consider benevolent. Views on morality differ wildly between humans, who knows what a mystical genie would consider good and kind? Maybe it's got an honour based code of morality and kills a bunch of people to preserve their honour. What if it's a nihilist and thinks that whether or not life exists at all doesn't matter and sterilizes the universe to end the inevitability of suffering?
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Feb 25, 2016 20:08
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Mo_Steel posted:Late one night in early 2015...
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Feb 25, 2016 23:49
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Funky See Funky Do posted:It makes assumptions about what a genie would consider benevolent. Views on morality differ wildly between humans, who knows what a mystical genie would consider good and kind? Maybe it's got an honour based code of morality and kills a bunch of people to preserve their honour. What if it's a nihilist and thinks that whether or not life exists at all doesn't matter and sterilizes the universe to end the inevitability of suffering? Well if I have to define morality for the loving thing then I'm just going to wish that it not exist. Funky See Funky Do posted:Unburdened by human survival instinct and emotions the genie decides that the nicest thing he can do for humans is to erase them from existence. And another thing, my wish was for the genie to be benevolent, not free of its lamp and able to do whatever the gently caress it wants.
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Feb 26, 2016 00:12
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Besides everyone knows djinn are Muslim.
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Feb 26, 2016 00:14
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my first wish would be making sure all the rear end in a top hat moves he pulls are loving hilarious to people that aren't the genie
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Feb 26, 2016 00:15
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First wish: yo genie take a listen to this sick rear end mix tape up whipped up boom tss boom tss ah yeah i'm gonna make it big some day Second wish: sup genie, come take a hit of this poo poo it's really dank. hell yeah that's the good stuff, gently caress the police THird wish: hey uh, genie can i like crash on your couch for a week or something my landlord evicted me because my dog got loose and pooped all over the hallway
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Internet dweeb: My first wish shall be predicated on the conditions that you use these extensive and accurate descriptions that I will describe thusly, firstly that-- le me: lmao genie i wish this dorklord had hsi balls on his forehead
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