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The US should invade mexico to get rid of the cartels. We will be greeted as liberators.
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cheesetriangles posted:The US should invade mexico to get rid of the cartels. We will be greeted as liberators.
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Yasser Arafatwa posted:what if i just think national borders are loving stupid I won't say there's no merit in the idea, but I just don't think humanity is going to be ready for it any time soon.
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T r a v i s posted:I won't say there's no merit in the idea, but I just don't think humanity is going to be ready for it any time soon. that's fair tbh i realize my opinion is horrifically unrealistic currently
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babypolis is just upset that the criminals and rapists are going to be sent back to mexico where he lives
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a cop posted:So what was the point of the press conference? I missed it. Essentially, Trump called Cruz a lying cocksucker repeatedly for several minutes and said he will definitely sue him over presidential eligibility if he doesn't quit being a lying cocksucker.
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im down with being annexed by the us
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cheesetriangles posted:The US should invade mexico to get rid of the cartels. We will be greeted as liberators.
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babypolis posted:im down with being annexed by the us Do you want a football team?
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stoutfish posted:we'll save money on healthcare compared to our current system and free tuition comes from a tax on wall-street speculation? are you retarded? in fact those two things will be a massive boost to the effective net-worth of the american people, so it's better than free. Look at this idiot repeating Bernie Panders verbatim. It's amazing how many youth in this country have been dumbed down into an obedient, gullible voting block through PC culture & entertainment perpetuated by progressives over the last ten years. It really is something how a borderline senile old man promising free healthcare, college, etc. ad nauseam can assemble the poorest of Americans into willingly accepting increases in their taxes from a fourth to a third. You are a fool if you think Bernie's plan (assuming it could ever get implemented) wouldn't simply drive businesses out of the country or that importing hundreds of thousands of low-skilled immigrants from the third world would be a net positive for the economy and national security. Ideologues such as you who think corporations are evil incarnate that need to be controlled by the government are just as insufferable as your counterparts who believe vice-versa.
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Immortan posted:Look at this idiot repeating Bernie Panders verbatim. It's amazing how many youth in this country have been dumbed down into an obedient, gullible voting block through PC culture & entertainment perpetuated by progressives over the last ten years. It really is something how a borderline senile old man promising free healthcare, college, etc. ad nauseam can assemble the poorest of Americans into willingly accepting increases in their taxes from a fourth to a third. You are a fool if you think Bernie's plan (assuming it could ever get implemented) wouldn't simply drive businesses out of the country or that importing hundreds of thousands of low-skilled immigrants from the third world would be a net positive for the economy and national security. capitalism is the enemy, friend
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Immortan posted:Look at this idiot repeating Bernie Panders verbatim. It's amazing how many youth in this country have been dumbed down into an obedient, gullible voting block through PC culture & entertainment perpetuated by progressives over the last ten years. It really is something how a borderline senile old man promising free healthcare, college, etc. ad nauseam can assemble the poorest of Americans into willingly accepting increases in their taxes from a fourth to a third. You are a fool if you think Bernie's plan (assuming it could ever get implemented) wouldn't simply drive businesses out of the country or that importing hundreds of thousands of low-skilled immigrants from the third world would be a net positive for the economy and national security. Buy me something off my amazon wishlist, paypig
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Immortan posted:Look at this idiot repeating Bernie Panders verbatim. It's amazing how many youth in this country have been dumbed down into an obedient, gullible voting block through PC culture & entertainment perpetuated by progressives over the last ten years. It really is something how a borderline senile old man promising free healthcare, college, etc. ad nauseam can assemble the poorest of Americans into willingly accepting increases in their taxes from a fourth to a third. You are a fool if you think Bernie's plan (assuming it could ever get implemented) wouldn't simply drive businesses out of the country or that importing hundreds of thousands of low-skilled immigrants from the third world would be a net positive for the economy and national security. where are the corporations going to, when they leave?
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I don't agree with the exaggerations Trump made about illegal latino immigrants at the beginning of his campaign but why exactly is everyone opposed to legal immigration? Why is it ok that people have to wait years and fill out tons of paperwork and go through tons of background checks and interviews for a shot at becoming a U.S. Citizen while anyone who sneaks across the border is given full rights and citizenship? Isn't that essentially line cutting and an unsafe way for people to enter the country? Would people that are ok with illegal immigrants also be ok with hundreds of people cutting in line while they wait at the DMV or a ride at Disneyland?
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Immortan posted:Look at this idiot repeating Bernie Panders verbatim. It's amazing how many youth in this country have been dumbed down into an obedient, gullible voting block through PC culture & entertainment perpetuated by progressives over the last ten years. It really is something how a borderline senile old man promising free healthcare, college, etc. ad nauseam can assemble the poorest of Americans into willingly accepting increases in their taxes from a fourth to a third. You are a fool if you think Bernie's plan (assuming it could ever get implemented) wouldn't simply drive businesses out of the country or that importing hundreds of thousands of low-skilled immigrants from the third world would be a net positive for the economy and national security. if the corporations leave they shouldn't be allowed to sell their products in our country
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Alucard Nacirema posted:I don't agree with the exaggerations Trump made about illegal latino immigrants at the beginning of his campaign but why exactly is everyone opposed to legal immigration? Why is it ok that people have to wait years and fill out tons of paperwork and go through tons of background checks and interviews for a shot at becoming a U.S. Citizen while anyone who sneaks across the border is given full rights and citizenship? Isn't that essentially line cutting and an unsafe way for people to enter the country? Would people that are ok with illegal immigrants also be ok with hundreds of people cutting in line while they wait at the DMV or a ride at Disneyland? It's because progressives want 12M + illegals to have the ability to vote for obvious reasons. It's ideology for them, the cost doesn't matter. With republicans it's because of greedy donors seeking cheap labor. In the end, they want the same thing for different reasons. Open borders capitalism and open borders socialism is a disaster for the native population.
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stoutfish posted:so if you feel that the illegal immigration situation gets out of hand, vigilantism would be justified? so if you feel that the Wall Street donor situation gets out of hand, vigilantism would be justified?
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Immortan posted:so if you feel that the Wall Street donor situation gets out of hand, vigilantism would be justified? hell yeah
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stoutfish posted:hell yeah I've run the numbers, this checks out.
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T r a v i s posted:Another question for the liberals to pull funny faces and make farting sounds with their armpits instead of answering: How do you think immigrants who went through the process to become a legal citizen feel about the plan to give amnesty to everyone who didn't? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwqfkWq9Rh4
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The one thing I don't understand I don't understand about the Trump 'philosophy' is this: do you genuinely think that just deporting people and building a wall will solve the problem of illegal immigration? I mean, I can see those being aspects of a comprehensive plan, but on their own they seem to me insufficient. Deportation isn't ever going to be a deterrent (we already do it a fair amount already), and everyone you deport made it over the border once and presumably could again. As for the wall, I can think of two other massive walls in history, and both are mainly famous for failing to keep people out/in. Are there other facets that I'm missing? It just seems to me like treating the symptoms rather then the disease. Treating illegal immigrants poorly isn't going to discourage them from coming here - they aren't coming because they expect to be treated well, but because there are a large number of jobs for those willing to work for much less then an American living wage. Shouldn't any solution to the problem necessarily include targeting employers of illegal immigrants? It seems to me like it should but I never hear Trump or his supporters talk about it. What are your feelings on the subject? Random Asshole has issued a correction as of 07:30 on Feb 16, 2016 |
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:The one thing I don't understand I don't understand about the Trump 'philosophy' is this: do you genuinely think that just deporting people and building a wall will solve the problem of illegal immigration? I mean, I can see those being aspects of a comprehensive plan, but on their own they seem to me insufficient. Deportation isn't ever going to be a deterrent (we already do it a fair amount already), and everyone you deport made it over the border once and presumably could again. As for the wall, I can think of two other massive walls in history, and both are mainly famous for failing to keep people out/in. Are there other facets that I'm missing? He's talked extensively about cracking down on employers hiring illegals (a law which progressives consciously ignore) and quadrupling border security personnel with modernized equipment in addition to the wall.
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:The one thing I don't understand I don't understand about the Trump 'philosophy' is this: do you genuinely think that just deporting people and building a wall will solve the problem of illegal immigration? I mean, I can see those being aspects of a comprehensive plan, but on their own they seem to me insufficient. Deportation isn't ever going to be a deterrent (we already do it a fair amount already), and everyone you deport made it over the border once and presumably could again. As for the wall, I can think of two other massive walls in history, and both are mainly famous for failing to keep people out/in. Are there other facets that I'm missing? Here is Trump's position on immigration reform. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform Under the subsection "Put American Workers First", which has a bunch of links that I am absolutely not going to take the time to format in bbcode: quote:Put American Workers First
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Fair enough! I knew he was a critic of free trade agreements, but I didn't know he was in favor of minimum wage laws too. Now I'm just kind of shocked that he's successfully running as a Republican. Exciting times!
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Zombies' Downfall posted:Obviously that's a bad scenario, but I'm also not sure why a bunch of people paying illegals 2 bucks an hour or whatever would go "ya got me" and pay Americans 8 bucks an hour to do the same jobs or why Americans would suddenly be content to pick fruit for minimum wage if we spent tons of tax money finding and mass deporting illegals. Labour shortages aren't a thing that exists in the current economy. Mind numbing and poor paying data input jobs get 100s of applications. You really think that there aren't people at telemarketing jobs that wouldn't gladly pick fruit for the same wages?
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Business Octopus posted:Labour shortages aren't a thing that exists in the current economy. Mind numbing and poor paying data input jobs get 100s of applications. You really think that there aren't people at telemarketing jobs that wouldn't gladly pick fruit for the same wages? picking fruit is a really lovely job so no i dunno why they would leave the comfort of an office with a/c to go stand under the hot californian sun for hours
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:Here is Trump's position on immigration reform. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform Under the subsection "Put American Workers First", which has a bunch of links that I am absolutely not going to take the time to format in bbcode:
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the trump tutelage posted:I agree with and support all those proposals. I'm through the looking glass. None of those proposals are unreasonable to anyone that doesn't hate America or black people.
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babypolis posted:picking fruit is a really lovely job so no i dunno why they would leave the comfort of an office with a/c to go stand under the hot californian sun for hours I've worked as a farmhand and I've worked as a telemarketer and I know which one I'd rather do. But maybe that's because I was working for my family's small farm and being paid 15 an hour and I actually had lunch breaks. If people were paid proper hourly wages and had a lunch break and weren't treated basically as chattel by the farm owners then yes they'd do manual labour. I know plenty of white people that do tree planting jobs. Hell, even if you can't find Americans, you should rely on legal immigrants to do the jobs under wages and working conditions that aren't massively exploitative and illegal.
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yeah seriously, gently caress this idea that there are some jobs that white people just WILL NOT DO NO MATTER WHAT and the entire economy will collapse without exploited immigrants to fill that role some people like working outside, some people like physical labour
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When people talk about jobs people won't do for minimum wage, they fail to realize those jobs will still need to be filled, and the business will have to raise wages to fill the vacancies, considering labor is a small part of the cost of producing goods or services, this will be a net benefit for workers.
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It's like the liberals are out of touch with the American working class.
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Here's a progressive idea that will be good for America: let's get Wall Street to loot the retirement funds of working people to pay for college kids to study social sciences and liberal arts.
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The Saurus posted:yeah seriously, gently caress this idea that there are some jobs that white people just WILL NOT DO NO MATTER WHAT and the entire economy will collapse without exploited immigrants to fill that role The best part is they will never talk about black unemployment in this context, probably because the idea of black people working in a field makes them squeamish.
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I'm appling for jobs right now and I loving wish that entire industries weren't barred to me due to the presence of illegal immigrants. I also wish that 50%+ of the office jobs didn't require bilingual english/spanish because Mexicans are too loving lazy and arrogant to learn the majority language of the country they moved to.
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