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Whatev posted:people who only have a high school diploma are pretty unbelievably hosed in the U.S. and it's silly to point to a small handful of high paying union jobs that are not remotely accessible to most people as any sort of challenge to that Most of those Union jobs are being vacated by baby boomers trying not to get hosed out of their pensions or Boomers that, fattened by their decadent union lifestyle, ended up dying of heart attacks. But like garbage men, many of these jobs are not glamorous, don't have a juice bar or sleeping pods as part of the benefits package, and might require you to stay there for 5-10 years before you can get an optimal shift/vacation schedule. But they are out there.
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Feb 25, 2016 06:05
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Panfilo posted:many of these jobs are not glamorous, don't have a juice bar or sleeping pods as part of the benefits package, and might require you to stay there for 5-10 years before you can get an optimal shift/vacation schedule. But they are out there. This is some false flag poo poo right here. Few young people have jobs right now with any glamor anyway, don't receive any benefits much less a loving juice bar, or could even expect to keep their job for 5-10 years much less achieve an ideal schedule. You are blaming workers for the lack of opportunity they face. Millennials or not people will jump at a good paying, steady job even if it ain't perfect. This is like one of those retarded boomer-pandering articles that say "millennials just don't want cars or houses!!!"
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Feb 25, 2016 06:09
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If I don't go to college how am I supposed to gently caress hot girls such as the cast of Pitch Perfect?
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Feb 25, 2016 06:37
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I tell people I run across, when they complain they want a better job for whatever reason, to apply where I work at. All you need to be able to do is read and write and do some very easy math. Virtually none of them ever apply. Why do you think that is?
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Feb 25, 2016 06:41
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you are actually cursed to encounter illiterates your entire life possibly gypsy or houdou in origin
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NObodiesGeek posted:I tell people I run across, when they complain they want a better job for whatever reason, to apply where I work at. All you need to be able to do is read and write and do some very easy math. Virtually none of them ever apply. Why do you think that is? you work in a poo-sculpting studio? 
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Feb 25, 2016 07:00
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Whatev posted:people who only have a high school diploma are pretty unbelievably hosed in the U.S. and it's silly to point to a small handful of high paying union jobs that are not remotely accessible to most people as any sort of challenge to that in the u.s. the really nice state government union jobs are determined by whether or not you're related to the current mayor, or his best friends
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Feb 25, 2016 07:24
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NObodiesGeek posted:I tell people I run across, when they complain they want a better job for whatever reason, to apply where I work at. All you need to be able to do is read and write and do some very easy math. Virtually none of them ever apply. Why do you think that is?
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Feb 25, 2016 11:09
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Angela Christine posted:Right, and that's the trap. A lot of students study things that are interesting, rather than things that are useful. Stuff that helps you make witty conversation, not stuff that helps you get a good job. Which is fine if your family is independently wealthy and you are just going to school to pick up class markers and make connections. It's not such a great idea for the lower middle class who have no college fund and are going tens of thousands into debt because psychology or english lit is super interesting. Yeah, you probably don't need anything you learned in college to do most every job but you need to have it to even get in a lot of them, though. That bein' said, I enjoyed the life of being someone with a lot of time so I don't regret those years.
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Feb 25, 2016 12:07
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Chomp8645 posted:This is some false flag poo poo right here. Few young people have jobs right now with any glamor anyway, don't receive any benefits much less a loving juice bar, or could even expect to keep their job for 5-10 years much less achieve an ideal schedule. Had this been true, States like Arizona and Alabama wouldn't have had problems filling labor intensive jobs Mexican immigrants used to perform because all these opportunistic Millennials wouldve jumped at the chance to pick up all work that got vacated when the Mexicans there decided to move on. But as it turns out, they didn't. I've seen it with my own eyes at my job. Most people getting hired are 10-15 years older than me. The employees with the biggest attendance problems tend to be younger. The people most likely to quit because they want to travel or work some other job are in their twenties. Who do you really think is going to value the job more, a Millennial who still lives with his parents and is still figuring all this stuff out, or a 50yo with a family to help support who aged out of his previous career?
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Feb 25, 2016 14:05
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why do you think it's virtuous to be bound by ball and chain to a lovely job? why do you think that there should be an expectation to give a gently caress about being professional when menial min wage laborers are treated like garbage regardless of their performance?
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what about studies that have shown people in managerial positions -so long term employees- to be the source of problems vastly more often than the employees they are supervising?
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Shaquin posted:what about studies that have shown people in managerial positions -so long term employees- to be the source of problems vastly more often than the employees they are supervising? I'm actually giving a presentation to a bunch of my GPs in a couple weeks about our firm's management structure. You don't happen to have a link to this study do you?
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Feb 25, 2016 14:32
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Hah, I have nothing but a HS Diploma and I make 80K a year. Why? I got lucky and knew people and had a natural talent for programming. Why can't people just bootstrap their way to knowing people and being naturally talented?
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Feb 25, 2016 14:48
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Shaquin posted:what about studies that have shown people in managerial positions -so long term employees- to be the source of problems vastly more often than the employees they are supervising? you've really got a lot of pent up anger don't you
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Feb 25, 2016 15:07
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Decrepus posted:If I don't go to college how am I supposed to gently caress hot girls such as the cast of Pitch Perfect? You might be able to get the fat one
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Feb 25, 2016 15:22
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English and other arts subjects don't have to be a useless degree. You can use them to get into postgrad programs, or graduate schemes where they don't care what major you've done. If you've had a part time job while you've studied and networked then there's no reason why an English grad can't get a decent enough job. It probably won't be a career making memes, sadly. Also, everyone I've know who works in social media loving hates it because it's a glorified customer service job anyway.
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Feb 25, 2016 15:33
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All I want from a job is that my employer strike me in the back of the head so hard that I pass out and wake up the next day ready for work after every shift so I don't ever have to experience what not working is
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NObodiesGeek posted:I tell people I run across, when they complain they want a better job for whatever reason, to apply where I work at. All you need to be able to do is read and write and do some very easy math. Virtually none of them ever apply. Why do you think that is? They don't like you
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Panfilo posted:I've seen it with my own eyes at my job. Most people getting hired are 10-15 years older than me. The employees with the biggest attendance problems tend to be younger. The people most likely to quit because they want to travel or work some other job are in their twenties. Who do you really think is going to value the job more, a Millennial who still lives with his parents and is still figuring all this stuff out, or a 50yo with a family to help support who aged out of his previous career? I don't have any idea because you haven't said gently caress all about the job or why anybody would or would not want it. You're trying to make me argue with a void.
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Forums poster discovers one weird job millennials don't want! *zero details follow*
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All this arguing about post-secondary education with respect to jobs is pretty funny to me, given that 90%+ of jobs are going to be fully automated before the end of this decade. Yeah, make sure you pick a course in a field you won't be working in because a computer/robot will be able to do it faster/better/cheaper before you even graduate.
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runupon cracker posted:All this arguing about post-secondary education with respect to jobs is pretty funny to me, given that 90%+ of jobs are going to be fully automated before the end of this decade. Yeah, make sure you pick a course in a field you won't be working in because a computer/robot will be able to do it faster/better/cheaper before you even graduate. Everybody should just focus on drama classes and psychology courses in high school and apply all that to a high commission sales position. There will always be a need for salesmen. Sales is one of those industries where personality and look matter though, so it's real easy to crash and burn if you're not comfortable around strangers or don't like pressure.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Everybody should just focus on drama classes and psychology courses in high school and apply all that to a high commission sales position. There will always be a need for salesmen. Sales is one of those industries where personality and look matter though, so it's real easy to crash and burn if you're not comfortable around strangers or don't like pressure. You think? It seems to me brick-and-mortar stores are dying a horrible death as they become replaced by online sales. And with the support bots they have already, it would not surprise me if they have sales bots perfected in pretty short order.
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Chomp8645 posted:Forums poster discovers one weird job millennials don't want! one that involves work is my guess
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Well, I said high commission sales. Brick and mortar stores are in the poo poo house, but there will always be real estate, financial services, insurance, large machine, software sales positions because those are the things that people will always need and are waaaaay less likely to just go online and buy whatever.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Well, I said high commission sales. Brick and mortar stores are in the poo poo house, but there will always be real estate, financial services, insurance, large machine, software sales positions because those are the things that people will always need and are waaaaay less likely to just go online and buy whatever. No, there won't always be. As AI becomes more sophisticated, those positions will be automated. It's not a question of "if", it's a question of "when". Will we still berate people for their higher education choices when there are literally no more jobs, or will we start thinking of higher education as being valuable in and of itself, like we used to?
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if its valuable, its fine for it to be expensive so what was the problem here again
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millenials are such pieces of poo poo
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runupon cracker posted:You think? It seems to me brick-and-mortar stores are dying a horrible death as they become replaced by online sales. And with the support bots they have already, it would not surprise me if they have sales bots perfected in pretty short order. That's not "sales"
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Puppy Galaxy posted:They don't like you Everyone likes me.  It's because they're lazy. I understand though. Why work when you can vote for someone to steal money for you?
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NObodiesGeek posted:Everyone likes me. howamericaendedupwithtrump.txt
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:That's not "sales" sorry, wanna try that again in complete thoughts?
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:That's not "sales" are you saying the guy who thinks 90% of jobs will be gone in 4 years might not have a grasp on the nature of employment? Huge if true
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radiatinglines posted:it's pretty funny seeing all these sputtering angry posts and the true life anecdotal bootstrap stories of goons nobody gives a poo poo about, but there is already a millennial thread for that so I honestly thought I was still reading millenial.jpg
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Pretty telling that any thread that deals with low economic opportunity is automatically a "millennial thread".
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Enderzero posted:are you saying the guy who thinks 90% of jobs will be gone in 4 years might not have a grasp on the nature of employment? Huge if true it's almost like the workforce participation rate isn't the lowest it's been in 35 years and companies aren't scrambling to automate literally everything as quickly as possible
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runupon cracker posted:You think? It seems to me brick-and-mortar stores are dying a horrible death as they become replaced by online sales. And with the support bots they have already, it would not surprise me if they have sales bots perfected in pretty short order. Brick-and-mortar, yes. I'm talking about door-to-door. Don't let them come to you. Bring the product to THEM.
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