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blowfish posted:Russia stronk. World see Russia as weak and disrespect Russia. Russia must send army to take land back and show Russia stronk! Am I the only one who is tired of the "Russia stronk" meme/gimmick? I don't remember it ever being funny or adding to discussion.
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In a scandal that nicely connects northern and southern Eastern Europe, Croatian MiG 21 airplanes that went to Ukraine for upgrade were returned in even worse condition and ex minister of defense might shoot himself. In other * * * EX-YU EX-WAR NEWS * * * Bosnian Serb war leader Radovan Karadzic was sentenced to 40 years of prison by the Hague Tribunal. That seems fitting although there are groups that aren't satisfied because he wasn't convicted of everything he should've been. Bosnian Serbs of course aren't satisfied either and they named a student campus after him. Before his arrest in 2008 he spent years as a monk-like alternative healer.  Another bizarre moment was that the Tribunal's ex spokeswoman was arrested at the sentencing (released today). Ratko Mladić, Karadzic's general and accomplice should also receive his sentence soon, and so should Vojislav eelj, Serbian extremist politician. eelj has been released for health reasons which don't prevent him from organizing rallies and burning Croatian flags. He also announced that he won't accept or recognize the sentence so Serbia will probably have to extradite him forcefully. edited for easier reading Doctor Malaver fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Mar 30, 2016 |
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Mar 29, 2016 23:44
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I am 90% sure an older acquaintance of mine in the NE US used to work for Karadzic. While Karadzic was a war criminal or a spiritual healer?
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biglads posted:Seselj has just been acquitted of War Crimes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35933468 It's not viewed favorable at all in Croatia. All political parties, who normally can't agree on anything in the world, condemned the court's ruling. The secretary of interior said Seselj will be arrested if he comes to Croatia (he announced that he will, but it was probably a joke). The ruling is really strange. His speeches against Croats and Muslims were interpreted as either inconsequential because he was in opposition, or an attempt to galvanize Serbian fighters without bad intentions. Even the representative of Serbia was surprised with the ruling. There are cynical comments about ICTY arresting Florence Hartmann, someone who wrote about the crimes but releasing Seselj, who committed them.
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my dad posted:OK, I saw the verdict, so here I am again for a short while. This'll be fun. Or horribly depressing. That works, too. This is going to be a loooooooooong post. Thanks for this. Too bad I can't link to your post since D&D is blocked by pay wall. Many people here just see it as "evil mad Hague court" and would benefit from your analysis. Rincewinds posted:So, basically, the prosecution hosed it up so badly that the only way the trial could have seen like a victory had been if he died in custody like Milosevic? That's not the first time. They charged Croatian general Gotovina for crimes that happened when Croatia liberated "Krajina" and they acquitted him. Which is good because he was the wrong guy accused of the wrong crime with wrong evidence... but they should've instead charged the right people and give them proper sentences. So another fuckup by prosecution. Doctor Malaver fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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I went out for drinks and dancing tonight and the DJ played this song which is not common for Croatian bars and clubs. It was released in 1981 by Croatian/Yugoslavian ban Azra. Here's a quick translation as a dedication to Polish goons. I hope you will sort your country out. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x39i5kt Gdansk 1980 When the Autumn said No Gdansk 1980 We kept our fingers crossed Miners, students, shipyard All of us Gdansk 1980 Factories on fire You don't send Tanks on workers twice They didn't dare We won, all of us Poland, in my heart In my heart mazurka Poland never Poland never produced a quisling Every day Polonaise Rings at my door Polish amber Bracelets Volodya's guard posts (??) Windows at half price (??) Pope Wojtyla and me Gdansk 1980 Queues to buy newspapers Independent unions Protection committees They didn't dare We won, all of us Poland, in my heart In my heart mazurka Poland never Poland never produced a quisling Every day Polonaise Rings at my door Polish amber Bracelets Volodya's guard posts (??) Windows at half price (??) Pope Wojtyla and me Gdansk 1980 Factories on fire You don't send Tanks on workers twice Tanks on workers Tanks on workers Tanks on us
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my dad posted:Now, it might be just the short length of your post that's causing this, or maybe I'm just too cynical, and am mistaking your post for trying to take my attempt at taking a non-Serbian point of view into account and make it some sort of "Serbian view" to be pushed towards the "middle" point of view, but just tell me one thing: I don't agree with your depiction of liberation/destruction of Krajina but I won't be dragged into a discussion about it. Me and you wouldn't benefit from it and the rest of the thread wouldn't care.
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There is a thread for Armenia vs Azerbeijan. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3770770&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
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Apr 3, 2016 10:58
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http://praguemonitor.com/2016/04/04/kurdish-militia-ypg-opens-office-prague YPG (Kurdish militia) opened an office in Prague. Did this get any publicity in Czech media? Is there a Kurdish minority in Czech Republic?
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Apr 5, 2016 00:56
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:Not sure if you were joking but this is pretty much the truth, meat is an integral part of the cuisine and culture in many EE countries- it's probably the hardest place on earth to be vegan. In many areas they won't even understand the concept. The closest comparison in the US would be something like turkey for thanksgiving but honestly the comparison is completely lacking in magnitude and scale. It can be legitimately hard to feel a part of those countries' culture if you are vegan. My vegetarian friend found it even harder to be vegetarian in Argentina. She would ask for no meat and they would give her less meat. My travels there confirm that. While vegetable stews might not be the most popular food here in EE at least they are well known. In Argentina the concept of a dish without meat is alien.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:150 trained Russian hooligans responsible for most of the violence in Marseille. That's a strange choice of word, 'trained'. It implies that there's some outside entity (Russian military or secret police  ) training hooligans. If they didn't want to imply that then they should've gone with 'hard core', 'experienced', 'veteran', etc. Other major football tournaments also had some uruk hai hooligans.
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Jun 14, 2016 15:21
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Kopijeger posted:Funny thing about those pictures: technology is for some reason advanced enough to build all those mechs, but agriculture is still using medieval methods (scythes instead of mechanical reapers, much less tractors) and cavalry charges with drawn sabers are still a viable tactic. 
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Jul 6, 2016 23:59
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Lavrov seems like a capable guy, providing he's not too old by the time Putin leaves for whatever reason.
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steinrokkan posted:There must be a point when even Lukashenko realizes that he's embarrassing himself by being seen with that loser. I can understand Depardieu, but why the gently caress Seagal. Croatian commercial TV stations play movies with either Seagal or Van Damme daily. I wouldn't be surprised if it was similar in Belarus.
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Aug 27, 2016 22:02
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If anyone is interested in Albania, Kosovo and ethnic Albanians in Macedonia... http://baraz.co/post/69/one-team-or-two---football-highlights-complex-albanian-identity Baraz.co posted:On being asked why they would be supporting Albania against Macedonia, a spokesperson for Ballistet, a supporters group for KF Shkendija from Tetovo who brought over 400 fans to the game in Shkoder, told K2.0 that a more meaningless question could not be formulated even if we put all the academics in the world together. It's a bit difficult to slog through all the names of people, places and clubs though.
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In non-news, Croatia had parliamentary elections yesterday, only 10 months after the previous round. The conservative party HDZ won the relative majority and will probably form a coalition government. No big surprises. - HDZ gained much by replacing unpopular Karamarko with moderate, intellectual Plenkovic. Just a couple of months ago with Karamarko they were trailing in the polls. - Left wing SDP continues suffering under the arrogant and incompetent leader Milanovic. The problem is he won the party elections recently and I don't see him resigning. - Last elections' champs Most are still third but lost a lot of support after heterogeneous and inexperienced participation in government and after HDZ moved more to the center and took some of their voters back. - Zivi zid gained a lot of voters and are firmly fourth. It's an anti-establishment, anti-banking party lead by an uneducated youth. Zagreb's corrupt mayor Bandic, a war criminal from the east of the country Glavas, and rational/liberal/urban Pametno performed poorly. I heard yesterday that aside from Albania and Macedonia, Croatia is the only EE country that has the same two ruling parties since fall of communism. 
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Sep 12, 2016 09:29
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Doctor Malaver posted:- Left wing SDP continues suffering under the arrogant and incompetent leader Milanovic. The problem is he won the party elections recently and I don't see him resigning. Hey Milanovic has just resigned!  More precisely, he announced that he won't run for the next party elections - and they will be soon. Despite the incessant Croatian Whining our recent political changes have mostly been for the better.
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Truga posted:Obviously, this wouldn't be free either, there would have to be people monitoring this archive, and that's obviously what a southern european country heavily in debt should be spending cash on, infrastructure and people that watch over an archive of child pornography. The logic is just loving This issue makes you want to leave your country? If that's the worst you get we should all move to Slovenia.
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Sep 14, 2016 09:39
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Meanwhile, actual police officer wages are literally minimal allowable wage, because we gotta save a couple cents here and there in these hard times of crushing debt right?
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:Republika Srpska would make Serbia 1 look like a shining beacon of stability and good governance. While I don't support RS' independence, this might have positive consequences. Bosnia is a poor country in such a bureaucratic mess that it's barely functional. The Dayton peace agreements were supposed to be a temporary solution and they became a permanent one. There are layers upon layers of complicated governing bodies that keep the country paralyzed and they are of course in no rush to disassemble themselves. Maybe this will shake things up a bit and result in something positive in the end (yeah I'm probably too optimistic).
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Religious identity defined Balkans. You were Muslim, Orthodox or Catholic - not Bosnian, Serb or Croat. Nations and nationalism came much later.cinci zoo sniper posted:Either way I don't care much about proper nomenclature for racism et al, it just seems unnecessary to lump all of it under one term that inherently is inaccurate to begin with, and had rather firmly retained meaning of 'hating people of different skin colour' since forever. I agree. The definition of racism seems to be extending indefinitely, for no good reason. Cat Mattress posted:Anyway, racism is always about something else than biological race, because there's only one extant biological race of humans (h. sapiens sapiens is its name). Racism is always about other differences -- language, religion, city vs. countryside, etc. Except that it's not because biological differences do exist and racists do focus on them. I don't understand how you don't acknowledge that while claiming (apparently) that calling someone a hick is racist.
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Sep 21, 2016 23:23
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Cat Mattress posted:Yes, the Swedes are indeed swarthy instead of white. That Ben Franklin thought Swedes were swarthy doesn't prove your point in any way. If anything it goes against it because you brought up an example of a famous and influential person who was concerned with differences in complexion. Groups of people hate and kill each other for variety of reasons. I'm sure you can come up with plenty of examples but it again doesn't prove your claim that "racism is always about something else than biological race". Always? C'mon.
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If I understand correctly, the content of the referendum is irrelevant. The fact that they are holding it is important because they are ignoring federal authorities.
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Again with the "if I understood correctly" caveat, there is no independent oversight so they can come up with any numbers they want.
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Sep 25, 2016 23:25
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I bet other SA mods are looking at this picture jealously and imagining themselves too in the center of media attention. "Did you probate FlowingShit in PYF?" "Yes, I can confirm that he was probated for six hours for not posting a picture in a picture thread."
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Georgian monks and a child sing to Pope in Aramaic. https://www.facebook.com/OtkroiGruziu/videos/1770517589866681/ I must've listened to it 20 times... And now it sounds to me like the girl sings something like "ljubov moja" which would be Russian I guess. Although I don't know why they would use that language in a Georgian church. Anyway, Russian speakers confirm/deny pls.
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AceRimmer posted:Well, it's finally happened, Trump has had his "Slobo did nothing wrong" moment. Trump is written 'Tramp' in Serbian hee hee
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Truga posted:Patriotism, and especially nazism are targeted at people who aren't very smart in the first place. They're very much the modern version of old religions, intended to herd people into obedient armies, and them wanting to do it out of their own will, because "it'll be better for *us* if we poo poo on them/take their poo poo". Because the world is a zero sum game, duh Did you mean to say 'nationalism', not patriotism?
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Blizz Pizz Love Us posted:Again, I'm so sorry for what's about to happen. Stay safe, Eastern Europe goons. Nothing is about to happen.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Putin really likes dogs. For once, LH made me laugh.
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So it's similar to "air fresheners" sold in smart shops, meant to be smoked like marijuana.
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Baronjutter posted:From the very beginning I've been against this idea that Ukraine needs to do some impossible ridiculous purge of all russian language and culture and influence. Even before the change in government, just when politics were really dumb and all about linguistic divides distracting from corruption, I've always said if Ukraine is to have any hope for the future they need to create a Ukrainian identity that is multi-cultural and linguistic. An identity based on some democratic political ideology and freedoms rather than "gently caress russians". Instead of making this a fight against dictatorship and the corrupt status quo that's been loving their country for generations, they've made it yet another linguistic side-show, it's a fight against Russians both foreign and domestic. The invaders and rebels are not bad because because they're a brutal foreign kleptocratic dictatorship, they're bad because they're russian. Kleptocrats are fine so long as they're Ukrainian. In the end it doesn't matter for the average citizen, the whole fight is over what language the people robbing them will speak rather than over the issue of constantly being robbed. If the west gave a poo poo they could have steered the new government in a better direction, they sort of tried with some carrots and sticks, but the west doesn't give a poo poo about this conflict anymore and europe is far too worried about muslims to try to help any nation-building in some post-soviet hell hole. I'm sorry to hear this. Compared to Ukraine, ex-Yugo countries seem like heaven.
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That is so smug and annoying that it makes me root for Russians and hope the Kuznetsov sinks the vessel where her husbands serves.
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Young Freud posted:Sorry, I'm in totally agreement with the video. I mean, their fire suppression equipment is two fire trucks they stole from the St. Petersburg fire brigade. That bit about the latrines is actually pretty frightening, that thing is a floating cholera epidemic waiting to happen. I didn't say that it was inaccurate (I don't really care about the ship), I said that it was annoying and smug. The fact that the presenter is signed as a USAF member only makes it worse.
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SoggyBobcat posted:I think when it comes to leftist apologia for Russia's behaviour, I think there's two explanations: the first is the simplest, that a lot of leftists have a lot of nostalgia for the Soviet Union, and even though modern Russia has practically nothing to do with socialism, those older Cold War leftists are still probably big Russophiles. The second seems that, for many Western leftists at least, the only sins worth caring about are America's sins, and the sins of any other major actor is seriously downplayed or not acknowledged at all. You'll see this defense used for any dictator that manages to wrap themselves in any sort of pseudo-socialist rhetoric ("Qaddafi gave his citizens universal healthcare, how could he possibly be bad???"). Who are those "leftists who have a lot of nostalgia for the Soviet Union"? Those "older Cold War leftists"? In which countries they live, how old are they and can you show any kind of their media presence? Edit: My point is there is no nostalgia for the Soviet Union outside of Russia, and those Russians who are nostalgic aren't leftists. Doctor Malaver fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Jan 13, 2017 |
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3peat has been very quiet about these protests. He's probably among soccer hooligans...
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Defining a language is complex and depends not only on linguistics but also on politics. That's how it's always been and is not specific to Balkans. Despite linguistic similarities, every country has a right to call its language however they want. It's normal for Croats to call their language Croatian and Serbs to call theirs Serbian. That's as much "myth" as drawing a line on a field and saying 'this is now a border between two countries' is a "myth". Despite this common sense normally prevails and people do not translate from one language to the other - not books, not TV, and they certainly don't use interpreters. So Gobbeldygook you are in fact making it up, at least to a certain extent. I don't remember ever seeing Serbian or Bosnian or Montenegrin speaker subtitled on any Croatian TV station.
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COOL CORN posted:Right, the insular way that the various languages have evolved on a colloquial level has caused them to be pretty different when it comes to day-to-day use. The "standard"/"literary" B/S/C/M are very similar, but I'd argue that proclaiming them as all the same language brings up a whole lot of classism issues in the area. And then there's the issue of what you would even call a new language. Croats wouldn't like "Serbo-Croatian", Serbs wouldn't like the opposite, Bosnians wouldn't like either option, and something like "Yugoslavian" would leave out Macedonians, not to mention every other worm in that linguistic can. Macedonians do in fact have a different language.
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Hill Germans doesn't make sense, Slovenia and Germany don't even share a border. A colorful local insult is "Vienna stable boys", used for both Slovenes and Croats. The implication is that they were servants in the Austro-Hungarian empire.
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Cat Mattress posted:I want to learn more about the Ice Cream Slavs. Albanians have a strong tradition of owning jewelries, cake shops and bakeries. They used to own the vast majority of them in Yugoslavia. These days it's less pronounced but still if you buy ice cream in a cake shop chances are it will be from Albanians. They are not Slavs by the way.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBkeVvDxgLs I understand that main problem is that the coalition that includes Albanian parties wants to make Albanian an official language. It's currently only a 'regional language'. I'm trying to find insightful commentary in Croatian media but since our government is disintegrating (again  ) there are hardly any other news (except football of course).
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