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What a cruel joke giving those volunteers toy guns. That guy in the foreground doesn't even get one!
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Anyone have a time frame for the invasion? I remember hearing on the news that it would use the Olympics as a distraction.
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Gripweed posted:This feels like a sign from god that maybe we shouldn't be giving Ukraine weapons Just gonna casually be named after a Nazi extermination squad.
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Feb 14, 2022 14:59
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Why are you probing people for pointing out Nazis?
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Feb 14, 2022 15:16
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I don't think you can really separate the very long and very brutal history of antisemitism in the Ukraine from it's current predicament. The centuries of pogroms and paramilitary groups that the Ukraine has been responsible for are not anomalous but rather a very clear pattern that continues to this day. The cossacks, for example, were notorious in their cruelty to the Jewish people. Does that mean every Ukrainian is a Nazi? Of course not. Does that mean Russia should invade them? Lol no. But you just can't pretend that doesn't exist, and probing people for pointing out that this long running tradition of hatred still exists serves only to run cover for worst people on the planet.
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Feb 14, 2022 15:48
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CommieGIR posted:Their post was: Perhaps arming a government with a real life SS-founded division is a poor choice, especially when that division is arming and training Nazi grandmas.
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Feb 14, 2022 15:56
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CommieGIR posted:Got it. Roll on in Russia, nothing to be saved here. C'mon man, you can just disagree with me without shoving words in my mouth. Cpt_Obvious posted:Does that mean every Ukrainian is a Nazi? Of course not. Does that mean Russia should invade them? Lol no. But you just can't pretend that doesn't exist, and probing people for pointing out that this long running tradition of hatred still exists serves only to run cover for worst people on the planet.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:04
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:And this history is unique to Ukraine, and not the entire Russian Empire....how? Their collaboration with the Nazis including participating in the Holocaust.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:11
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steinrokkan posted:If you are under the impression there were no Belarussian or Russian collaborators, you are just willfully ignorant. If you are under the impression there were no pogroms and antisemitism in Russia or Belarus prior to or after WWII, you are doubly ignorant. If you believe there were no Ukraininans fighting against the Nazis as soldiers or partisans, you should just gently caress off. Imperial Russia (as its multiethnic whole, not just today's Russia) was possibly the most antisemitic country in Europe before the revolution, and the domestic attitudes didn't change overnight, if indeed they changed at all.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:30
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OddObserver posted:... You do know that USSR had a state policy of pretending the Holocaust didn't happen, and had a lot of institutional anti-Semitism? Source plz.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:37
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Did that change the attitudes, or just prevent them from being acted upon? Well, technically executing antisemites does cause a severe alteration in brain chemistry, so yes.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:40
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steinrokkan posted:Why didn't he execute Stalin Because he needed him to beat Hitler.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:45
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Solaris 2.0 posted:Stop posting in bad faith and Google it yourself for once. I did and couldn't find anything about a Soviet project to exterminate Jews.
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Feb 14, 2022 16:49
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*sigh* if only Lenin could have killed all the antisemites smdh. OddObserver posted:Do you even know what the Black Hundreds were?
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Feb 14, 2022 16:59
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I just want to point out, I didn't bring up Russia. Someone else pulled a whataboutism comparing the history of antisemitism in the Ukraine to that of Russia.
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Feb 14, 2022 17:09
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steinrokkan posted:Relying on "Thing is just like thing in Aaamerica That's fair, the black hundreds killed a lot more Jews than the kkk.
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OddObserver posted:That would be the majority of population. Yah, just to be clear: I'm not claiming that antisemitism wasn't rife through the USSR, just pointing out that it was the only government at the time taking any steps to quash it. And Putin can eat a hairy turd.
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