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Terminal autist posted:Obviously I can't speak for Sinteres who it looks like was probed for having a position in opposition to the unhinged blood lust ITT, but scrapping the Western security framework seems like a pretty good goal. Do you seriously thing anyone in a Western nation is threatened by Russia? The FSB isn't going to inject you with Polonium for having weird opinions about Russians, Des Moines not going to get strafed MIGs. For a serious solution to the problem we should try making NATO North Atlantic again. the FSB literally tried to assassinate a russian dissident in such a way that a british citizen died as collateral damage in middle-of-nowhere britain. Almost the exact scenario you described as a strawman literally occurred.
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let's also not forget the cyber attack on the eastern seaboard oil pipeline that sent gas prices rocketing literally last year. unless we''re not going to count that since its a proxy the russian government condones except when they think it might make Biden let them have ukraine as a treat.
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steinrokkan posted:Also, you know, all the dark money and conspiring with fascists in every Western country to uproot the rule of law. how can this be when every Ukrainian is a hitler-worshipping neo-nazi that make being against Ukrainian sovereignty the leftist option????!?!?!
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Feb 12, 2022 21:43
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This Putin guy seems like a real jerk!
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Feb 12, 2022 22:24
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Sekenr posted:Rusdia is not going to attack Ukraine. They love it when everyone is livid and will try to keep it like that permanently. Embassies are evacuating, 4 months from now theyll try to return, russia will shush them away agan. That will kinda ruin Ukraine and the west will get tired of being nervous all the time and say gently caress it you won. ah i see. putin will be defeated by the american small attention span
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Feb 12, 2022 22:45
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:It's the ideal time to invade Ukraine in absolutely every different perspective from weather, politics, current events, military, etc. hell let's all invade ukraine. see you there!
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Feb 12, 2022 22:49
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i hope russians realize that if putin invades ukraine they will have to deal with "invade ukraine" jokes all the time from lazy comedians and dads trying to be funny any time they go abroad and consume foreign media that mentions russia. is it really worth it?
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Feb 12, 2022 22:55
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steinrokkan posted:You may reference Seinfeld for your Geopolitics, but we insiders know that Eastern Europeans pay no heed to Seinfeld values, or even the Larry David doctrine; all they know is the genocidal wasteland of Friends The sad truth is this all occurred due to a Frasierian dinner party gone awry
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Feb 13, 2022 00:16
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:Anytime between now and the middle of March. Ideally, sometime in the next few weeks or when the Olympics end. Past march the ground becomes muddy which makes it harder to move tanks through. Putin also temporarily loses his biggest defense against sanctions and actual consequences for his actions which is being Europe's heating supply.
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Feb 13, 2022 03:33
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Al-Saqr posted:Is this more or less than usual looks like flights are still happening It’s much less than th EU or Russia and roughly the same amount as Belarus who last year hijacked a plane flying through their air space to arrest a single dissident on board. So it’s “maybe the state could hijack us” level
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Feb 13, 2022 15:14
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My God, the first bitcoin country
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JunkDeluxe posted:So.. Reading Twitter, articles, etc. A lot of people seem very confident there will be military aggressions across the border fairly soon. Troop levels have increased. Roughly half the Russian army is now by the border. They are no longer just along the eastern border but stationed in crimea and Belarus as well. The Russian navy is now also super concentrated in the Black Sea and only a hairs breadth away from actually blockading Ukrainian ports right now Russian conscripts have been telling family that they’ll be gone for ~8 months Countries that don’t really care very much who controls Ukraine like Japan Saudi Arabia etc are evacuating their embassies or moving them to Lviv which is the farthest Ukrainian city from Russian territory and telling their citizens to leave the country. Russia has evacuated its embassy. On the 14th the Russian duma is scheduled to formally recognize the independence of the separatist regions As noted above Russia’s also about to institutionalize crypto currency which is important since the ruble is going to become very very very weak if the west actually follows through on sanctions which they did not leave themselves wiggle room to welch on if it actually threatens the gas supply. BIG FLUFFY DOG fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Feb 13, 2022 |
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CommieGIR posted:Still don't see how it doesn't become a terrible idea: Crypto is VERY slow to process, its super inflationary values make it practically worthless as a base. Technically it’s deflationary (usually) which is actually worse for a currency because it means you make a profit from just waiting until tomorrow to buy something so it incentives low demand.
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Feb 13, 2022 19:11
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Looks like there’s a moderately large protest against Tokayev in Almaty. Russian armies trying to invade Ukraine. Time to protest
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Feb 13, 2022 20:05
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Threadkiller Dog posted:Putin is behind the wheel on this one. USA might be in the backseat yelling but no matter how much you wish it you guys [americans] are not the ones choosing how or when the ride crashes. No! We are the main character! Only question is if we're a cool good guy main character like john wayne or a cool bad guy main character like breaking bad
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Feb 13, 2022 21:32
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah nobody knows the long term game Putin has for Ukraine. Most likely its just put a Russian asset back into Kyiv and tie Ukraine back into the Russian economy and that's about it. Other than that, what its mostly likely to do as well is backfire in Putin's face, as part of his goal was to demonstrate weak NATO resolve, but Ukraine is not a member of NATO and so far its only increased NATO members calling for a strong resolve. Also forcing Germany (and by extension the EU) who was more than happy to let Russia do whatever it wanted so long as it kept the gas flowing to switch to being hostile to Putin and saying radical things like Russia should face consequences for breaking international law. Putin hosed up and threw away something much more valuable than Ukraine but that bridge is burned at this point so he may as well finished the deed.
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Feb 13, 2022 22:10
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fatherboxx posted:Only during crises like current one there is an influx of yankees.
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as i recall the dude in charge of Ukraine in 2014 was so extremely pro-russian and against co-operation with the west it led to his overthrow and domino'ed to the current state of affairs so I don't really know how Ukraine would join NATO between 2008 and 2014 with the west being all-in.
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