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The NATO hasn't invaded Russia, stolen Russian land, killed Russian citizens, isn't occupying Russian land as we speak, isn't blocking Russian ports, isn't firing artillery at Russian conscripts on a daily basis for the past 10 years. What European NATO members have done is disarm nearly all the forces they used to have aimed at Russia during the Cold War, and regrettably leave themselves defenseless against Russian bullying out of naive faith that there could be some kind of peaceful coexistence.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I don't think you can really separate the very long and very brutal history of antisemitism in the Ukraine from it's current predicament. The centuries of pogroms and paramilitary groups that the Ukraine has been responsible for are not anomalous but rather a very clear pattern that continues to this day. The cossacks, for example, were notorious in their cruelty to the Jewish people. Congrts on describing every country in the world, and throwing in a racist dogwhistle while you are at it.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Their collaboration with the Nazis including participating in the Holocaust. If you are under the impression there were no Belarussian or Russian collaborators, you are just willfully ignorant. If you are under the impression there were no pogroms and antisemitism in Russia or Belarus prior to or after WWII, you are doubly ignorant. If you believe there were no Ukraininans fighting against the Nazis as soldiers or partisans, you should just gently caress off. Imperial Russia (as its multiethnic whole, not just today's Russia) was possibly the most antisemitic country in Europe before the revolution, and the domestic attitudes didn't change overnight, if indeed they changed at all. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Feb 14, 2022 |
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Feb 14, 2022 16:20
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Cpt_Obvious posted:They did when Lenin (who was 1/8th Jewish) jailed the paramilitary groups like the Black 100s and forcibly ended the pogroms. Hm yes, the day Vladimir Lenin personally ended racism and nobody was racist ever after VVVV You sound a lot like one of them, what do we call them? rootless cosmopolitans 
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Feb 14, 2022 16:31
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Well, technically executing antisemites does cause a severe alteration in brain chemistry, so yes. Why didn't he execute Stalin
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Feb 14, 2022 16:42
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Because he needed him to beat Hitler. Couldn't Lenin the Prescient find somebody to do that who wasn't a raging antisemite, who even supported antisemitic structure of the partisan movement in the middle of the war with Germany, who executed so many people because he saw Jews as disloyal? Are you one of the Lord Jesus' special boys who think that only Stalin, personally, could win the war, and not anybody else in his position who would have been less of a monumental gently caress up?
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Cpt_Obvious posted:The Russian KKK. Relying on "Thing is just like thing in Aaamerica  " is such a huge red flag when dealing with anybody online
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Feb 14, 2022 17:08
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pissinthewind posted:It just doesn't really make sense to me to be rooting for either side in Ukraine/Russia right now, unless you're mostly worried about which country has the most imperialism I suppose. The rise of fascism is a major problem in the US that no one is doing anything about, but look over here! Nazi grandma is learning to shoot an AK to protect against Putin, everyone cheer? It just seems like Biden is trying to do the unity he promised by promoting nationalist imperialism, stoking the flames of war by sending Ukraine arms and riling up Russia, since domestic patriotism unity kind of poo poo the bed when he failed to accomplish pretty much anything. And honestly, having lived through that poo poo in the early 2000s, I genuinely can't believe grown rear end human beings are falling for it, again. The vast majority of people that want more progressive policies who make up the country that is being besieged by a Russian fascist regime do in fact deserve support even if your high horse riding American rear end disagrees. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Feb 14, 2022 |
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Truga posted:again, page 106 here: Once again, apparently Ukrainians were sitting on the ground, lifeless as a sack of potatoes, their minds completely devoid of thought, until Westerners came along and filled their heads with ideas
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