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Grouchio posted:They've been doing that at least since they've been granted independence. Macedonians and Greeks are squabbling over the name and the legacy it has, not modern culture. Macedonian Slavs aren't pretending to be Greek or whatever.
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icantfindaname posted:https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-04-26/why-orthodox-christian-nations-remain-stuck ahaha oh god that's some mountainous bullshit. I especially loved: quote:Western Christianity (which gave rise to Catholicism and Protestantism) placed emphasis on rationalism, logical exploration, individualism, and the questioning of established authorities. Just alter this to exclude Catholicism and you had (and sometimes still have) the sort of poo poo people were talking 50-60 years ago about why those gosh darned Southern Europeans and Latin Americans are so rife with the dictators and whatnots (and why those Irish chumps are so poor and blowing things up). Unlike the fine upstanding ubermensch of Protestantism. Also lol at citing Poland as having successfully transitioned away the authoritarian past. Do these types ever have an explanation for anyone bringing up the US South in regards to their first-world making Protestant magicks? Because I feel like they want us to keep thinking of the Dutch and Norwegians, and never Alabama and Arkansas.
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lol Russia you moron, the Greeks are your best possible friends in NATO and the EU alike. This is the equivalent of Trump managing to have a fight with Canada.
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Cat Mattress posted:Nobody natively speaks French anymore in the USA, except for some recent African immigrants. Cajuns and some Quebec people who ended up on the wrong side of the border in north New England.
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lol at people in western democracies rushing in to equivocate their news with that situation.
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Paladinus posted:Some experts predict de-escalation, actually. They say Russia is fed up with DNR and LNR, and pouring resources into them, and wants those territories back into Ukraine to have a chance at a Ukrainian president who's at least not hostile to Russia. But some people back in 2016 also said Russia would return Crimea by 2018, because of lack of resources to maintain it and failing infrastructure projects like the Kerch bridge, so who knows. That doesn't really seem like Russia's modus operandi though, which is to support unrecognized breakaway states in the near-abroad to exist. And really to do nothing more than that. It keeps that country in turmoil and instantly off the NATO candidate list to boot. This is what we've seen in Georgia and Moldova both, twice over with the former. Of course this also means they wouldn't want escalation either. The status quo of a breakaway state existing in agonizing limbo for the original state is the idea. Then again again, we did always get the strong feeling that DNR and LNR were much more ....Russia created as entities rather than Russia supported local forces as in Georgia and Moldova.
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Warbadger posted:I doubt many Western European countries would be up for the ethnic cleansing and murder of political opponents parts of that plan. Luckily the most likely candidate for the annexation is Poland.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:It does help if you look at countries with informed population. Europe has plenty of places with voter turnout of 80%+, if I remember correctly. lol at Turkey and Belarus.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:
That third one from the left has an uh, interesting logo.
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steinrokkan posted:Ignore that, plenty of DnD goons have recently decided that all nations east of Berlin are fake products of Nazism and should be subjugated by Russia to stomp the contamination out of them. It's just a cool and acceptable way for these posters to fulfill their need to be racist. When they aren't calling Baltic countries nests of Hitler worshippers, they are calling for Russia to overthrow the Banderites in Ukraine and start the next Holodomor or for tanks to roll into Budapest or whatever. Imperialism is the real anti-imperialism lib. 
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Sorry to Grouchio but does this hubbub about the Ukrainian church mean that we've had or are possibly about to have a whole new schism? Is the Russian Orthodox church technically no longer Eastern Orthodox?
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skipThings posted:That agressor didn't have any nuclear warheads, now piss off with your bad analogies you bloodthirsty shithead Indeed it is chauvinism which motivates taking action against imperialism. That makes lots of sense.
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double nine posted:for some more comic relief: This is like when you have dudes from like Kentucky complaining about how much California brings down the US lol.
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Young Freud posted:And, I'm guessing, even after that, his sons would keep that from happening. Quite the contrary. Once Joffrey comes of age he will knock off his older siblings, then successfully conquer Russia.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:So when are you all going to apply for U.S. statehood again? You seem like a natural candidate. Catholic Alabama would be an unfortunate addition.
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I still find it funny that Hungary of all countries is one of the leading lights of "NO FERNERS IN EUROPE". The country based around a language whose closest relatives are from Siberia.
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Grouchio posted:All the more reason for them to preserve their unique language and culture, in their eyes. We have crossed paths before on other worlds Grouchio.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Are the Estonians and Finnish the same way? Because they come from that same language root. You just don't hear about Estonian or Finnish nazis like you do Hungarian nazis. They come from the same larger language family, but Hungarian is on a totally different sub-branch, one whose only other relatives are indigenous minority languages from over the Urals. The Hungarian language presence in Europe straight up comes from a steppe horde invading into Europe and taking over the Pannonian basin. I really wonder how their particular nationalism mixes the usual huge deal founding myths with the usual xenophobia.
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The whole thing is mega stupid.
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Even Greeks when you press them enough sheepishly admit it's dumb lol. There's kinda sorta a bit of racism involved, since Greeks see the bordering Balkans peoples in pretttttty condescending terms (especially Albanians, but yeah Macedonians and Bulgarians too).
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Sekenr posted:If you mean Ukraine, political class there is sort of like a club, members of which get elected, unelected, sometimes briefly in jail but only members get to play politics. So this time people just voted against the whole club because Zelenskiy is not a member. lol at any country along Southern Europe self reporting anything other than 100%. Including Cyprus.
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Paladinus posted:Huh, that summary is different from other summaries I've seen. In some the 90% Ukrainian language quota for TV programming is said not to be present in the final version, for example. Hope they publish the actual law soon. Wait how do you even use a term like "indigenous" in countries where there are no colonial settler populations. How does that work. Isn't everyone indigenous?
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Baronjutter posted:Hard to think of any countries where this isn't the case to some extent. Rarely in that particular way of the New World or Down Under. And I suppose Siberia fits the bill a bit. Also I'm pretty sure Slavic folks were in the area before Turkic folks, or at least Kipchak speaking groups like the Crimean Tatars. Both having been there for a long time either way. Like how does one qualify as indigenous and not the other. Grape fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Apr 27, 2019 |
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MiddleOne posted:That's not how that works. The definition is based on who and what relations that meaningfully exists today. Specifically, the ones which need protecting for one reason or another. That's not what the word means, so it's just a strange use of it is all. Like Europe looked at the use in America and went "oh it means marginalized minority group". But if that's how it's come to be seen there then that's the way of words I suppose.
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OddObserver posted:Uhm, Crimean Tatars were literally forced out of their homes multiple times, and had Russians settled in them. (Same happened to some extent in Baltic states as well). The Russian Empire was very much built on ethnic cleansing and settler colonialism. You can have two indigenous peoples doing these kinds of things to each-other. Like when we had Bosnian Serb paramilitaries doing it to Bosniaks it was still two indigenous pops. Though in the context of Ukraine ethnic Russians do have an element of settler history to them, I'll give you that. Just in curiosity, would you consider Irish Catholics in NI an indigenous population compared to the Protestants there? Greek Cypriots compared to Turkish Cypriots? Genuinely asking.
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Didn't some Italian/Spanish guys get beaten up in Poland a few years back for "being Jewish"?
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Bulgaria did some nasty poo poo to their Turkish minority as recently as the 80's, they have a history. Oddly enough they weren't so bad in WW2 all things considered.
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Rust Martialis posted:How is it 'gone', exactly? War Crime Gigolo is a guy who talks about international affairs like a 13 year old talking about Dragonball Z theories.
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Pretty much every post that guy has itt is concern trolling about Ukraine being the fourth reich.
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mobby_6kl posted:Some interesting if unsurprising takes on the situation lmao at the idea that paying lots of attention to Belarus would lead one to think its the kind of place with free and fair elections
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People, Dumb (LIBS) Just Hearing About Water Finally (laughable): Whoa, seems wet. Me, Smart Suave Tankie Who Looks Like Michael Jackson Circa Off The Wall:   
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Necronormiecon posted:Belarusian riot cop to an arrested Russian journalist: Something attacking democratic protestors AND raging at Russia would I guess be Lukashenkoism. I'd love to see how this fits into the international fantasy football logistics for tankies.
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Sekenr posted:Here come goon experts who learned about the country's existence 2 weeks ago. How is Putin going to sell it to Russians? There is no flying EU flags, anti-russian slogans, caricatures of Putin, if anything Lukashenko was way more hostile to Russia than the protesters. Besides general Russian opinion is seeing the Belarusian people as friends, not the regime. War Crimes Gigolo follows international events with the energy and mind of a 13 year old shonen anime fan.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Topograhically, Belarus is a far better position to start a conflict than russians current borders. If russia were to continue to cause insurrection in Ukraine the dniper would become the new border, However with Belarus under absolute control the dniper is a non-issue for any future conflicts. Remember we're not talking about a conflict today, or tomorrow, or this year. The pieces are being placed for the next grand war of mobility. When will that happen? Unknown. I mostly just chuckle at your Middeast thread posts, but there's something extra gross about posting this excited bloodsports fan style poo poo in a thread with a much higher concentration of in the mix people, and during the midst of a crisis. Seriously, shut up.
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Nenonen posted:Goddammit Batka, don't spill out that you know because now they know that you know! He's like a malfunctioning robot, rapidly and randomly shifting between his "gently caress RUSSIA" and "LOVE YOU RUSSIA" modes.
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Hey everyone just checking in, but are Belarusians real people or some sort of dumb peasant cows that lurch in directions if major world powers will it?
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Letting Russia mess freely with Ukraine definitely will end there and not encourage hismessing with other post-Soviet states, nor likewise encourage other irredentist autocrats even inside of NATO like Erdogan, messing badly with the coalition's cohesion and stability.
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Taiwan and Ukraine are insanely incomparable.
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Vasukhani posted:Good thing one of those "bootlickers" is in the whitehouse Sweet, what department are you in?
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