Bob Quixote posted:

If we are talking ethnicity though, Montalban was born in Mexico but both of his parents were immigrants to the country from Spain. Are the Spanish not white? I've never really grasped what exactly falls under the umbrella of "whiteness".

Hat Thoughts posted:

This is a stupid conversation but it's silly to say that racism exists only as a visual thing.
Like, ya no duh if you look white then you're gonna have an advantage and probably not get killed by a bored and/or rowdy police officer but like, especially in America racism is so deeply ingrained in our culture that if ur saying it's purely based on passing/not-passing you're ignoring the tons of ways racism has structurally destroyed/tortured so many ethnicities.
(But hell, maybe I'm only saying this bcuz I'm a mixed [black & Assyrian] guy who can pass as white [well, Jewish ])

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Hahaha, what show is this? And are there any clips of the transformations?

Zeris posted:

Maybe they can hire George Lucas for help with ambiguous racist undertones

greatn posted:

HHH should play someone on the Agents of Shield civil war crossover.

LGD posted:

attractive 50-something Aunt May has already been a thing for a decade and a half in Ultimate Spider-Man

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Well actually

Gyges posted:

I do like rear end in a top hat Appocalypse though.

EN SABAH NUR: Oh, I assure you, Christopher, that everyone else is wrong. Your estimates that the Earth is 9,300 miles shorter in circumstance are accurate, I totally double checked your math.

EN SABAH NUR: *Chugs the last of the beer on the Mayflower* Now what will you do, Christopher Jones? [to one of his horsemen]Am I doomed to struggle with Christophers until the end of time?

bring back old gbs posted:

Is Gamer the one where Dexter is dancing around to showtunes at the end sending man after mind controlled man at Butler? That was awesome.

Rurea posted:

I want a Gamer 2 with Dwayne Johnson replacing gerard butler and sam rockwell instead of michael c hall.

Xealot posted:

Sure, but I'd think the main barrier is getting a hot-poo poo actor to commit to one role for a decade of their career. As I understand it, Joaquin Phoenix passed on Dr. Strange for that exact reason.

Snowman_McK posted:

And then he managed to throw casual racism in there as well.

quote:

Downey said in a video interview last week that “for a man whose native tongue is Spanish, to be able to put together a phrase like ‘cultural genocide’ just speaks to how bright he is.”
“Taken in the proper context of the interview, it is intended to be, and is, complimentary,” said Downey’s publicist Alan Nierob

Wheeee posted:

I'm sure that RDJ regularly cries over his lovely failure of a career




all the way to the bank.

achillesforever6 posted:

Also because they like those movies and don't like the guy who says that movies they like are "cultural genoicde" which is just about as and stupid as what RDJ said

The MSJ posted:

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CelticPredator posted:

Oh yeah. Now I hate DC more for ditching Michelle loving McClaren.

TFRazorsaw posted:

Jesus metaphors play to the lowest common denominator. He's not even the judeo-christian character Superman most resembles.

But when debate about a story's themes in a way that compliments them, it's usually done so in a way that explores the nature of what those themes mean. Is Deckard a replicant? What's the nature of the monolith?

With Zack Snyder it comes down to whether those themes should have even used or not because they're delivered with the gracefulness of a bag of hammers with poor set up, ham handedness, and a fair number of unfortunate implications. This is best exemplified by the fact that Superman's "died for your sins" metaphor doesn't work when everyday people don't have the powers to follow his examples and the looming threats will be handled not by mortal men, but by other godlike supermen. He doesn't put this stuff in with any effort to make them work, he puts them in because he thinks presenting them as much subtlety as possible is somehow deep. The discussion isn't framed about analysis of these themes and what they say, or can say, but rather, a defense or attack on the quality of their execution.

In regards to bringing up whether the movie was a financial success or not, the conversation STARTED because it related to whether or not the claims Warner Bros. being concerned and there being behind the scenes troubles had any legitimacy or not. Comparisons to Marvel were made not for the sake of comparing metaphorical penis sizes, but in regards to how they've set expectations for how these kinds of movies perform.

TetsuoTW posted:

Why are you still doing this to us?

BiggerBoat posted:

I think DC should scrap the built universe thing and just go directly to having Snyder make a four hour Kingdome Come movie.

CelticPredator posted:

Because they aren't jokes.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Gotta go fast.

TFRazorsaw posted:

I saw someone make a joke about how bad Pluto Nash was the other day.

I guess that makes it a good movie, if people still know about it.

Gorn Myson posted:

Captain America and Black Widow are literally murdering people within 10 minutes of the beginning of Winter Soldier.

I'm sick of this grim dark stuff #NotMyCaptain

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

It is a sick rear end car, you must agree.

Harime Nui posted:

And that's not even a euphemism I was eye-watering, toe-tapping needing to piss by the end of this movie monster.