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Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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I feel like some of the acronystic parts help make comic book movies feel more comic bookish to me. who cares if print media is still going in marvel movies? and secret identities are part of the fun of super heroes.

also, drat Age of ultron is a big middle finger to man of steel, ultron is superman who sees a coming disaster and tries to avert it and the movie says to him maybe it's okay to let it die instead of trying to forcibly turn it into your idea world. too bad almost everything about the movie was awful

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Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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tony's vision was more about him being scared of surviving than everyone else dying thor's was just weird i don't remember if we're even told what bruce saw

but yes tony's fear and bruce's anger at the destruction does create an even bigger problem both the hulk fight and ultron.

also it's very much the opposite of superman, the avengers save people but humanity is left to fend for itself superman will lead humanity but people have to save themselves. the marvel universe is very libertarian which makes it a fun escapist fantasy.

also also Age of ultron is a very badly made movie.

Elfgames fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Mar 9, 2016

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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multijoe posted:

I believe showing genitalia in a pornographic context is illegal in Japan, so tentacle rape came about as a way to show schoolgirls getting raped (okay) without anything disgusting like human sexual organs (bad)

this is only mostly true japan has always had a thing for tentacles see The Dream of a fisherman's wife

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Detective No. 27 posted:

I also can't stress enough how he saved the lives of every man, woman, and dog on Earth by blowing up the World Engine.

No he saved the world, people had to save themselves.

it's the same as the saying "one death is a tragedy a million is a statistic."

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Bob Quixote posted:

So if you put out a fire that would have consumed a building and killed everyone inside you are somehow saving fewer lives than the one or two guys in the building who managed to keep their heads and usher a few people in their area out the fire doors?

Are you literally saving less lives? No. Does the guy getting people out have more of a dramatic impact? Yeah, that's why in most firefighting stories we follow the dude who runs into the burning building looking for people instead of the crew pumping water.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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LORD OF BUTT posted:

The CGI is a huge black mark, but other than that it's a really fun movie that gets way too bad of a rap. And, as mentioned, the soundtrack is :krad:.

(Seriously, the practical effects for Spawn himself are actually fantastic. They really should have just stuck to practical all through instead of doing that horrible CGI.)

the only cgi that was really that bad was malbogia and hell, the :krad: cgi cape was great in it's otherworldly nature

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Yaws posted:

It's so loving stupid. Why would they charge at each other like it's a medieval battle? What would Hawkeye gain from running straight at Iron Man?

the scene itself isn't the problem, the real issue is who shows the actual run up? The clash is the important part, showing them actually running at each other looks silly.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Oh absolutely. The thing to always keep in mind is that the Avengers are a supervillian team.

Like, they literally have a dude named "WAR MACHINE" now.

They're the bad guys.

All superheroes are "war machines"

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Jasen posted:

What's also weird is that Cap is in quite the fight with a random goon in that bottom left hand corner of the second screenshot while Falcon casually walks forward. Dude doesn't even glance back to see if his friend needs any help. And then Cap just walks in from off-screen right after.

1 captain america doesn't need help against government/sheild nobodies

2 if it were someone that cap needs help to fight, the loving falcon is not going to provide that help. unless cap like needs his shield returned to him.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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So they're going to try and put king kong in the same movie as king ghidorah. Hahaha

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Burkion posted:

No, no- Godzilla VS King Kong is going to happen AFTER Godzilla 2.

Because this is the most glacial cinematic universe in the history of such things.



I mean Kong might be stuck in the same movie as Ghidorah but I sure hope not!

Oh god it's even worse like how am i supposed to care about king kong AFTER Ghidorah?

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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PiedPiper posted:

Cap was born in 1920, the time of the First Red Scare, after the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. They didn't distinguish between communism and socialism in that period.

If anything, I think Cap is socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

Nah cause cap is supposed to be ahead of his time , he's all for helping out the little guy. cap isn't america the literal, he's the idea of america, the spirit of freedom and all that jazz they told poor immigrants to come here.cap isn't supposed to stand for the government but for the people and that's why he doesn't stand for the government infringing upon the rights of the people. I mean the way he talked about registration in the clip the government can force you into or out of any conflict it wants if you have superpowers. I'm still wondering why black panther is ok with this, does he have diplomatic immunity?

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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PiedPiper posted:

I don't think anybody can dispute that Cap represents the ideal America, it's just fun to shoot the poo poo.

My favorite bit from Winter Soldier is when Fury basically says "The greatest generation? Yeah, right".

Maybe but people seem genuinely confused that cap would defy the government.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Oasx posted:

Nobody in their right mind thinks that Black Widow was talking about being infertile when she called herself a monster.

no man they do and they always forget that it was bruce who brought up being infertile as being part of his monsterness first

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Snowman_McK posted:

It must be a great source of pride for the Al Qaeda in the Marvel universe that they managed to kill literally many, many times as many New Yorkers as an alien invasion.

Well the real world doesn't have superheroes to protect it. It's not unlikely that superheroes would lower the casualties in such an attack.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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I don't care what color he is but i wanted to see a dude with ten magical rings fight iron man.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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i dunno the league film was pretty okay and everything everyone has ever said about the comic outside of its premise has sounded terrible.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Retardog posted:

I saw a webcomic where the artist depicted what it'd be like if Spider-Man shot spiders out of his hands and I gotta tell you, for a lot of people that'd be loving terrifying

nope, i don't care how not arachnophobic you are if you get shot with a spray of spiders you are gonna poo poo yourself in terror.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

(also something nobody ever mentions is that Pa Kent might not actually know if Clark can withstand the tornado. Unless you think Pa Kent took Clark into a field and ran him over with a tractor and shot him a couple of times to test his invulnerability - which is a funny image)

I know this is so far away from the point but he doesn't need to withstand the tornado clark could have walked out and grabbed the dog and come back at healthy teenager speed and he could have easily not gotten stuck with normal well built teenager strength, like saving the dog and coming back was not something that could only be accomplished by an act of god.

also everyone other than clark should be dead anyway cuz the stood in an underpass during a big loving tornado. in the midwest we learn not to do that by age 6

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Chairman Capone posted:

I laughed in Jessica Jones when, a short time after their city was attacked by aliens led by a mind-controlling Norse God, no one in New York believed that mind control could be real.

what do the people on the streets know about that? all they know is aliens came pouring out of the sky.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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computer parts posted:

The JFK assassination produced weirder conspiracy theories than just mind control (both it directly and the " government must be lying to you" mindset that it created).

yeah but i don't think juries tend to convict on conspiracy theories. I mean i'm sure you can get some dude in a tinfoil hat to belive in mind control easy. that isn't the problem what is funny is that all the stuff tony gets blamed for nobody ever mentions the hordes of aliens descending from over his building. by civil war there should be at least a sizable portion of the country wondering if that wasn't a false flag operation.

Edit: hell tony stark can easily crate a replica nuke and drone ironman suit and when they go through the "portal" all the aliens drop like robots that have their off switches hit. then when shield's getting close to the truth tony stark's good buddy drops them out of the air

Elfgames fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jul 8, 2016

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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I feel like Dr.Strange isn't going to mention the vishanti much.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Hat Thoughts posted:

Quoted the wrong logo

well now if guardians of the galaxy doesn't play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R43dYg_Kuc0 i'll be increadably sad

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Grendels Dad posted:

All Ninjas look the same to DD.

but he always knows which ones are hot.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Toady posted:

Fans call Batman a hero because he stops short of killing his victims. Even worse, fans justify Batman's existence by citing the Gotham police force as corrupt, but Batman is part of that system, turning in criminals with cuts and bruises knowing that the police will look the other way. Good Batman stories acknowledge that his existence is wrong and his thinking is flawed.



I think these stories work better in the comics because they are a contrast to the norm but nowadays movies seem to hate batman as a baseline. Everything is "batman is lovely and ineffectual and that's not realistic he has to be crazy and violent and kill people!" and surprise people who like batman can get rubbed the wrong way by it after awhile.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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TetsuoTW posted:

Yeah you totally nailed every recent Batman movie, that Nolan Batman was fuckin brutal.

pretty sure nolan batman ends with "batman sucks, bruce should go live on an island and be happy"

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

When we say Batman kills it is not a celebration of 'grimdarkness' but a straightforward observation, akin to saying that Batman poops. Everybody poops. It is the unavoidable consequence of eating and digestion.

When did jijov get a hold of this account?

Batman doesn't kill batman doesn't do anything because batman is a fictional character

Batman doesn't eat digest or poop naturally either

The actions of batman are written down by authors, Batman kills because someone with a pen wanted to make a point

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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SuperMechagodzilla posted:


Batman is a person, and therefore he certainly poops. Everybody poops.

Bruce wayne is a person, batman is a symbol and a god maybe he doesn't poop.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Hollismason posted:

Yeah the Chinese Government is basically :biotruths: . The problem with them now is that all films must pander to their archaic bullshit rules so even though we don't live there we have to face the fact that all our films are edited with their strict rules in mind.


No more Skeletons.

https://www.techinasia.com/china-doesnt-censor-skeletons-the-truth-about-game-censorship-in-the-middle-kingdom

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Grendels Dad posted:

I guess it's canon then that Batman's black panties are made of leather. Kinky.

at least on his fancy funeral batsuit

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Chocolate Teapot posted:

I'm going to put forward the most brazenly obvious counterpoint to this anecdotal stream of utter nonsense, but if nobody cared about music in film, why the gently caress is it even there?

because music accentuates a scene and elicits emotion even if you aren't actively aware of it.
i don't think you even need great music as long as the music you have fits well with the ideas and emotions you're trying to evoke.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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cool kids inc. posted:

He looks like he's having so much fun! :3:

how would you know? It's not like skeletons can frown.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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MrJacobs posted:

Actually whats stupid is why the gently caress didn't those exist before Luke Cage? The invasion of New York should have kickstarted super-bullet research into high gear, plus the Hulk has existed for a while, furthering the need for more super bullets in order to try (but always fail) to stop this rage monster that causes more damage than 3 hurricanes and an earthquake everywhere he goes.

the Netflix poo poo and the movies are not in chronological order, all this poo poo seems to be happening much closer to the avengers movie. The Judas bullets were made from chitauri metal.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Drifter posted:

We're going to find out that Tony provides hologram-bracelets for Stephen because real magic doesn't have any fancy, glowing visuals, and Strange just wants to look impressive when he's doing his magic stuff.

i'm a little upset that i didn't hear a single "by the hoary hosts of hoggoth."

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Drifter posted:

I still can't get over the rubber bodysuit they went with this time around. Can it possibly move well enough/realistically enough that it isn't distracting?

it isn't supposed to look realistic

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Brother Entropy posted:

whedon pretty much is the 'marvel voice' is the thing though

except Ironman 1 had the same tone and whedon was nowhere near it as far as i know

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Random Comic Movie Tidbits:

- Kevin Feige says that there will be a team up between Iron Man and Doctor Strange in Infinity War and it will continue in movies afterwards. He hinted that they respect each other, but also kind of hate each other for having similar personalities and the magic / tech divide.

(This is my personal speculation, but it looks like they are phasing out the original Avengers solo movies and having them do team-ups and cameos in new character movies.)

This is what all of phase 2 and 3 should have been in my opinion. It was dumb as hell to introduce all these characters together and then never use them together.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Drifter posted:

You have no idea how impressed I am that somebody can think that what is being shown on Agents of SHIELD has ANY effect or impact on what will be happening on the bigscreen.

i mean the royal inhumans were never really meant to have anything to do with the earth ones were they? like the only similarity is that they get their powers from the same place.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Ensign_Ricky posted:

I love every single thing about "SCREW YOU, SPACESHIP!!!"

mild complaint but isn't drax incapable of understanding figurative language? and if so does he want to gently caress a spaceship? :crossarms:

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Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

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Snowman_McK posted:

They already broke this rule in the first movie when he calls Gamorra a whore.

I'm pretty sure he literally thought she was a prostitute. I mean all those guys at the prison called her one and he just picked up on that. He was misunderstanding their insults as being literal this is consistent. "screw you spaceship" does not seem to be so

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