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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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DC Murderverse posted:

we have been one successful anime adaptation away from white Akira for decades it feels like, but one never shows up

i don't think it's impossible, but every time hollywood tries they seem to gently caress something up. i even liked GitScarJo but it was definitely not successful

Speed Racer and the '09 animated Astro Boy were also definitely not successful.

Ironically enough one of the complaints about Astro Boy was that his eyes weren't big enough. These anime fans just aren't ever satisfied. :v:

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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euphronius posted:

The Last Jedi has already earned more than Justice League.

It made more in 3 days than JL made in a month.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Guy A. Person posted:

Eh I don't think Justice's League's terrible flop is indicative of the comic book movie bubble bursting

Yeah I made a count a few pages ago and there were three superhero/comicbook films in 2015, eight in 2016, ten this year, twelve listed for 2018 so far and 10 plus a bunch of unconfirmed/untitled movies already listed for 2019. The bubble is still expanding.


But maybe euphronius was just referring to the DCEU's bubble bursting. :v:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Davros1 posted:

It'll probably surpass Man of Steel by the end of the week, and there's a chance it'll pass BvS too

By the end of its second weekend it'll most likely have passed all the DCEU films including Wonder Woman and possibly all the MCU films except Avengers, and there's a good chance it'll pass Avengers on its 3rd weekend.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Depending on how Alita: Battle Angel does, anime and manga are a distinct possibility. We've already gotten Ghost in the Shell and Death Note in the past couple years.

All the talk about anime/manga adaptations made me realise that I'd never actually seen Dragonball: Evolution so I tracked down a copy and .... oh drat, that was hard viewing. It took me quite a while to finish it, I kept stopping the film and going off and doing other things and very nearly gave up on it. The scene at the start where he refuses to fight the bullies and defeats them by dodging their blows was probably the only scene in the entire film worth a drat but even then it heavily cribbed off a really similar scene in the first Raimi Spider-Man film.

Hilariously enough the general plot (weird guy living double life assembles a team of loners with special skills so they can track down [x] number of ancient macguffins before the evil space warlord gathers them all and combines them to receive the power to take over the entire planet, final fight happens in a huge towering structure that the bad guy summoned out of nowhere) made me go "Holy poo poo, did Justice League steal its plot from fuckin' Dragonball: Evolution???!"
We also had scenes where the characters use the macguffins to bring back a dead character, the strongest character loses his memory and attacks the rest of the team, the bad guy had an army of spiky carbon-copy warriors who were pretty much useless, the bad guy only gets all the macguffins because the good guys pretty much didn't bother with security, the bad guy was initially defeated thousands of years ago because a bunch of powerful warriors from all over the place banded together, etc etc..

And then the movie ended with a lighthearted scene where two characters meet up away from the others to finally determine who was faster and ended with a freeze frame of them leaping into action and that removed all doubt. :v:

JUSTICE LEAGUE IS A REMAKE OF DRAGONBALL: EVOLUTION

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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feedmyleg posted:

It just goes to show that despite what the director says, that Power Rangers fan film was definitely not intended as satire.

Yeah it was 100% a proof-of-concept showreel to try and get a film deal. There were several hundred people who worked on it (including the actress who played Rita Repulsa in the TV show from '94 onwards) and the behind the scenes video is pretty insane. It wasn't just a fun video he threw together with some buddies one weekend, it was a full on production that took months of work and lots and lots of money.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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There's more than one kind of revolution. Maybe he's leading a fashion revolution?

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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I'm pretty sure that the angle they were trying to convey is that it's a revolution in superhero movies.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Blankman, The Human Tornado, Meteor Man

Gatts posted:

Blade. Like....come on. BLADE. Inspired the Matrix look and started the superhero movies trend except that's the legit dope poo poo.

Black Panther is a revolutionary superhero movie in that it has a black superhero who isn't a parody/joke character, a sidekick or a guy who is on the run from the law.

Brother Entropy posted:

so it's revolutionary in the same way that wonder woman was

by which i mean 'not at all' unless you throw up so many qualifiers that the statement is mostly just patting superhero studios on the head for very slowly catching up to diversity trends that other action movies have been way ahead on the past few years
Hey I didn't say that I agree that it's a revolution, just that I can see why they might be trying to push that angle in the promos

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Brother Entropy posted:

so it's revolutionary in the same way that wonder woman was

Look I'm sure it's just completely coincidental that both characters are royalty from a fabled country hidden for millennia behind invisible shields (where white dudes are NOT welcome!) and are forced to leave their homeland because a blond white protagonists called Steve accidentally brought the war to their doorstep and the only reason that their peaceful homeland is brought up again in the big crossover movie is because it just so happens to be the hiding place of an ancient macguffin that the evil space warlord needs in order to complete the set and take over the world

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Okay I went and looked through a whole bunch of articles about the Black Panther movie and interviews with the cast and others and the word that kept popping up repeatedly was "groundbreaking". The phrases "unprecedented predominantly black cast" and "first black superhero in mainstream [American] comic books" also kept occurring fairly often. Like, really really often. Almost as often as "70s spy film" came up in articles about Winter Soldier. :v:

There's also this article from Rolling Stone titled Black Superheroes Matter: Why a 'Black Panther' Movie Is Revolutionary that actually goes into detail over the question but there's also a whole bunch of other articles that vaguely frame the film as being revolutionary without really explaining how or why. There really is a lot of chatter online about the film being revolutionary but they usually don't go into any details, it's like they assume it's just a given. I'm pretty sure that many of them just latched onto the word because they heard it in the song in the trailer.



josh04 posted:

Like, it's objectively good that there will finally be a non-white lead in a Marvel movie. But "Hereditary Monarch from The Lost World" is kinda regressive even on its own terms (a fuckin Monarch?), before you get to the fact that it's a mash-up of early 20th Century tropes about Africa and the name of a revolutionary socialist party. That was probably uncomfortable at the time, now it's just bizarre.

I posted earlier about how Wonder Woman's movie plot/origin was weirdly similar to Black Panther (royalty from a hidden kingdom, etc) and it occurred to me that they were taking great steps to frame each hero as an Other. That doesn't really happen all that much in other superhero movies - even an actual alien like Superman got an origin where he was raised in Kansas.

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Dec 22, 2017

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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McCloud posted:

MoS and BvS went to great lengths to portray Superman as something otherwordly. Yeah, he was raised in Kansas, but it was very clear he never fit in with the locals, and has always been a loner.

Yeah but he struggled to understand his powers and his potential role from a human perspective. Plus "never fit in" and "loner" doesn't actually make him Other, we all know people like that. They're very relatable traits.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Obviously if you think Hollywood as a concept is inherently fatally flawed, this doesn't really mean anything, but a lot of folks don't see it that way and are really loving excited about this.

That's no lie, they are hyped.
https://www.essence.com/entertainment/what-wear-watch-black-panther-black-twitter-fashion

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Shageletic posted:

Enrich means "making someone wealthy". That's the literal definition.

It's one of the definitions, the other is "improve or enhance the quality or value of". In contexts like this where we're contrasting the social and financial impact of the Hollywood machine it's maybe a bit too ambiguous

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

Sincerity's overrated,it's a movie with talking racoons and a guy called tazer face i'm not expecting gone with the wind.

Hey now, Taserface was one one of the Guardians of the Galaxy's reoccurring villains in the 90s comics. He's a classic character!

But even then they dumped his name and gave him a new one. (The new name was also stupid, the poor guy just couldn't catch a break.)

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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got any sevens posted:

Tony stark has an evil sister who has a planet?

Well maybe, but The Stark in that comic are a race of aliens in the far future who found some old Iron Man tech and used it to kickstart their industrial revolution and they decided to create an entire religion around their concept of Tony Stark and even rename their entire race after him.
The 90s Guardians of the Galaxy comic was (mostly) set in the far future had it had this weird thing where the 'classic' Marvel characters were still massively influential in a bunch of different ways. One of the main heroes wields Captain America's shield, one of the villains is Wolverine's great great great great grandaughter, etc etc..

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