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eviltastic posted:Yes and no. Lots of tax cuts that were a bad idea, and the falling oil and natural gas prices and resulting energy company cutbacks aren't doing the state economy any favors. But the state's governor, Mary Fallin, is facing pushback from her own party while trying to hold the line on all the tax cuts. We're close enough to Kansas that you can't ignore the direct parallel and resulting hellscape of ideological conservative government so people are starting to freak out a little
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Radbot posted:Are they, if the people living under them self-report to be happier (with longer lives, even)? Hahaha yeah dude. Yeah they are.
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/705448270462590976 We've hit Peak White
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Why is a politician changing their stances on political issues to better reflect the attitudes of their constituents considered by so many to be a bad thing? Isn't that like exactly what they're supposed to do? I thought republicans were the ones who voted for rigid ideologues.
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Mar 5, 2016 20:42
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Empress Theonora posted:what happened to this thread Somebody implied they didn't want to vote for Hillary. Chaos reigns.
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Mar 5, 2016 21:02
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Hey guys it'd be pretty cool if this thread didn't get gas chambered like the last one
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Asproigerosis posted:So how hosed is the state of Louisiana after hurricane jindal? I think if your state is facing the end of the public defender program and imminent release of imprisoned criminals because you can't afford to actually bring them to trial, the answer is "completely hammerfucked"
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Mar 5, 2016 21:15
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Donaldus Magnus appears to be on track to lose Kansas and Maine to Ted Cruz, according to Fox. Was this predicted by polling? I feel like I remember him being ahead at least in Maine.
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Fried Chicken posted:"Just because you pulled from a source and I didn't doesn't mean you have better information than I do!" Ah, but Fried Chicken, you seem to be forgetting! Any male of "fighting age" who lives in Whateveristan and fails the paper bag test is a potential enemy combatant, and therefore this American citizen and minor WAS actually conspiring with terrorists, probably. And even if he wasn't, well, he's dead now so gently caress it. Just trust me, he was a ~bad guy~. Probably.
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Mar 6, 2016 19:16
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Jarmak posted:Now I'd be perfectly willing to believe the CIA knew he was there and decided to play willfully ignorant because "gently caress that kid" and "we're not missing our shot at this target over this". That's the kind of government cover-up that actually happens. This is exactly what happened, but the key factor is that you're assuming the "target" was a valid one of strategic importance. It was not.
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Mar 6, 2016 19:36
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Jarmak posted:Al-Banna isn't a valid target? He is definitely either a valid target OR a post-facto justification applied to a drone strike that killed an American citizen and minor.
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Mar 6, 2016 19:43
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Mr Hootington posted:Both of these are interesting articles. Thanks for posting. The second hits the nail on the head. White people are slipping from power and they are going nuts. I'm.... not entirely sure that was the intended takeaway from that second article. First of all, white people are not slipping from power. The white voting bloc in national presidential elections is becoming (has become) less of a singular king-maker, but that's about it. Secondly, the kind of white people voting for Trump are not ones that had power before, and haven't for quite some time. Trump is a siren song for poor whites who are almost as marginalized as poor minorities, only, poor minorities belong to a political party that will at least attempt to accomplish things that help them occasionally. Poor whites get riled up and pandered to by republicans running for office and then get totally shat on or just ignored outright when those republicans actually take office. Trump isn't just people going nuts because they're scared of Mexicans, although that is certainly a factor. Trump is (in their minds at least) the best hope that poor and lower working class whites have for an actual voice in the process and a return to what they feel is a level of dignity they've been robbed of.
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computer parts posted:After the first 2012 debate you probably could've made a mint selling D&D prepper equipment. Yeah... I miss the days when a "bad debate" was one in which the candidate looked a little unprepared and kinda off the top of his game and not, like, shouting invective and making reference to the size of his dick
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Epic High Five posted:This election is just getting worse and worse for the GOP lmao Day by day, those conspiracy theories about Trump being a deep-cover Democratic operative seem less and less conspiratorial...
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Popular Thug Drink posted:you can order rare hamburger in most restaurants, there's just a disclaimer on the menu. it's just an inconsistent application of the law that people are defending because they want to stick it to hippies or whatever goofy stereotype they're angry at It's an inconsistent application of the law because the examples you're providing have wildly different risk factors and the law should not be applied similarly to dissimilar problems. I'm not an expert but I've been led to believe that raw milk is way, way more potentially dangerous than a rare burger or a sushi roll.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:so what if someone wants to get sick drinking raw milk, there are tons of things people are allowed to do in terms of risky food production from sushi to grilling to home brewing but for some reason milk is a special taboo food that extra double poisons you or something MacheteZombie had posted the actual incidence rates of outbreaks from raw milk a couple times now. It actually IS more dangerous than other risky foods
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Popular Thug Drink posted:even if this is so, what's the threshold for dangerous? you can only kill X americans per year? *cough*tobacco*cough* Tobacco doesn't carry infectious diseases
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Popular Thug Drink posted:even if this is so, what's the threshold for dangerous? you can only kill X americans per year? *cough*tobacco*cough* Secondly, different people in different areas have determined what they feel is the threshold for dangerous, and have acted upon it accordingly by passing laws and regulations. This would be that "patchwork of inconsistent laws" you referred to and is actually exactly how the law supposed to work!
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Popular Thug Drink posted:no, but it's dangrous as hell Yeah I understand that and the point that there's nothing special about raw milk is not correct. It actually is more dangerous.
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Mad Hamish posted:Holy poo poo will you people stop arguing about raw loving milk? It's an interesting and apparently contentious topic that is relevant to US politics. It's fine.
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Epic High Five posted:Combined with this $60 crystal it cures the autisms And brother are we ever in need of a cure
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Jesus christ. It's coming from inside the thread. I mean... That's not wrong though. Trump is not a failure, at least in politics. He's winning.
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CommieGIR posted:But even then! He's not winning because he's good at it, he's winning because the GOP spent 6 years stirring up the racist minority of the party into the Tea Party and now can't control it. Trump is just the peak of a wave they created. Yeah this is true, but the point I think is that, as Boon said, that's a value judgment and people define "success" differently so that's probably not going to prove to be the effective method of tearing down Trump. You can rationalize anybody's success at a thing as "well that's only because XYZ historical flukes" \/\/\/ yeah, this. Even if we concede for the sake of argument that he's "successful", there's a dozen other reasons why he shouldn't be anywhere near elected office that aren't ambiguous. sit on my Facebook fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Mar 10, 2016 |
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If you think about it, if Trump's goal in life was "become a successful businessman" then he has been a pretty colossal failure. On the other hand, if his goal was "convince people I'm a successful businessman" then he's done a really good job. Edit: kinda beaten by Dunkle
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I just think it's important not to underestimate the orange clown man. Somebody on one of the news channels said the other day, "it's always a bad idea to attack a person on their finances, because they're always going to know more about it than you" and I thought that seemed pretty valid.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Sure, keep Just Asking Questions! I'm not "just asking questions" you prick, I'm pointing out that Trump has effortlessly and repeatedly deflected any claims or criticisms about his personal wealth and that attempting to point out that he's not "really rich" is only going to be met with him flying in on his gold plated Trumpcopter to continue dunking on you for pursuing lines of attack that have not yet worked at all.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Oh, nice argue, except that nobody was saying poo poo about Trump's money until Boon tumbled off the turnip truck and started saying how gee-gosh presidential it is that the stubby-fingered cheeto man made all that money. Trump isn't here, nobody's talking to him. They're talking to the idiot who doesn't understand that marketers tell lies, and to you, his backup idiot. Everybody understands that marketers tell lies. The original post that brought up this topic, which was not boon, was claiming that people who try to argue that Trump is actually a failure are probably being counter productive and just feeding his narrative in ways that are really easy for him to contradict. That's what I was agreeing with. Apparently it's going to come as a surprise to you, but calling the wealthy reality t.v. star and current front runner for nomination a total failure sounds like a dumb loving argument to anybody who supports him. Edit: I guess I'm assuming that we're talking about how to argue to persuade here which is probably too generous
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Everybody's afraid to say it, but what if Mentos really is the freshmaker? No actually Mentos isn't even a breath mint
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Boon posted:I have to say, Im really confused. Dinosaurs have notoriously tiny brains
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Trump is now in Kansas City at a rally going on at some length about how he wishes protesters would be arrested and "marked in some way for the rest of their life" because if you did that, then well, you wouldn't have any more protesters! It really is something else to watch.
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Yeah it's fuckin nuts. "We're gonna take our country back from those people" and "these guys are probably ISIS related" and "really they're violating us all so badly, we just need LAW and ORDER". It's truly startling.
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Potato Salad posted:There are people who will kill you for supporting SOCIALIST BERNIE in my state. That's what I would've said too, until my state voted for him. I still can't believe Oklahoma voted for Bernie
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That's good enough for me.
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Oh cool "The Lion's Guard" so we even have a good name for the history books for America's secret police
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The Hillary partisans in this thread are almost as bad as any Bernie bro, the only difference is they're less histrionic and more condescending. So is The Donald going to win Ohio today? From everything I've heard, him and Kasich are within the MOE of each other in the polls but... I think my spirit needs a Trump win here.
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zoux posted:Lemme ask this, do you guys think these one at a time protestors that you can't even hear on TV, you just hear Trump go "GET EM OUT" and raucous applause from the crowd, do you think they are helping him or hurting him? That kind of protester definitely helps his message, I think. I'm generally not convinced that it's smart to go inside of the actual events themselves, be it the one-at-a-timers or the huge group in Chicago. Allowing yourself to be kicked out so publicly feeds exactly what Trump wants to be riffing on in his stump speeches.
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Khisanth Magus posted:Which apparently, at least in this thread, means forcing teaching factual history and actual science is out the window. Yeah this is a really generous reinterpretation of what most of the posters were arguing against. "Eliminating their culture" and whatnot Also good luck at ever arriving at a consensus of what "factual history" is
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Grey Fox posted:Here's a video promoting some company's facial animation tech using politicians as source material: Yeah we definitely needed another reason to not believe anything we see on the internet
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Boon posted:Oddly enough, it's the History series' of Crash Course on Youtube that helped me realize that. Anybody even mildly interested in world history should watch these videos, by the way. They're very well done, John Green is a wonderful presenter, and they actually contain, like, nuance and introspection. Good series.
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Dexo posted:Someone who only uses stone cold logic, with someone who doesn't as the VP to keep them in check. But McCain/Palin already ran? "Stone Cold logic" insofar as any problem can probably be beat up with violence
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