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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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I put this in the February thread this morning since I'm a moron, reposting here.

Excellent Jacobin essay on the strategies and political economy that drove twentieth century partisan realignment.

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Has HAMP been discussed at all at the Democratic debates?

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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PhazonLink posted:

Since you mention money sinks, the graph is old(like more than 5+ years), but I'm sure most of you are familiar with the chart that shows that most of the red states take more fed money than they give.

fake edit : Also also, speaking of cutting back on state programs. Cutting back on mosquito management programs. Hopefully Zika doesn't become a major thing.

Here's an in-depth look at net contributions by state from 2014 in The Atlantic ~ "Which States are Givers and Which are Takers?"

Edited to add the moneyshot:

GalacticAcid fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Mar 8, 2016

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Happy International Women's Day, comrades.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

So what political media do you guys read for real, not hatereads or op research? I like Jacobin, The Nation, The New Yorker, Atlantic's good sometimes, Mother Jones when I remember, and I'd like to pretend I only hateread Gawker but that's just me lying to myself.

The American Prospect, The New York Review of Books, n+1, London Review of Books, sometimes the New Republic.

The current issue of Jacobin is excellent if you can get a physical copy.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

Its fun to see someone hammer Nate like this, not realizing that he's making a prediction off polling and it's only prediction.

Also that when polling is off by that much, not much anyone can do.

But I guess if this makes you feel better?

It is actually hilarious to see someone whose entire media brand is built on his Highly Accurate Predictions being catastrophically wrong about his Highly Accurate Presictions. I'm sorry that this is troubling to you.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

It shows you don't understand how predictive statistics work.

It's loving Nate Silver and he's rich because people think his statistics are magic, and he trafficked on that charade, and now some predictions have not borne out in reality so it's funny to laugh at him. However I won't make jokes about him because I see that it touched some kind of nerve for you.

Lol "you don't know how statistics work because you laughed at the smart man."

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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You'd think pollsters would have learned their lesson about relying strictly on landlines.

In 1948

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Pro-Hillary media figures trying to convince skeptical left-liberals should be writing about the thus-far-successful McAuliffe governorship.

He got all the same flack for being a Third Way stooge etc, and had turned out to be pretty good.

(But lol they'll probably go on writing about Bernie Bros on Twitter.)

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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VikingofRock posted:

So does anyone have a good article about the reasons for the racial divide in the democratic primary? I'd like to understand it a little better (since I'm a clueless white guy), but I emphatically do not want to start the holy war, so I was looking for a good off-site resource.

Jamelle Bouie argues it's the longstanding personal ties between the Clinton family and black politicians - that's here.

Jeet Heer argued that Bernie's class-first rhetoric is off-putting to minorities concerned about racism. That's here.

Molly Ball argues that Southern black voters are quite moderate and focused primarily on finding a candidate who can win in November. That's here.

Other interpretations that I've seen but don't have ready links: 1) old ppl back Clinton over Sanders and black vote is older than white vote. 2) Southern voters in general are more conservative than Northern, and the black vote is expressed most clearly, in the Democratic primaries, in Southern states.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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You know MIGF, I don't want you to poo poo yourself out of excitement, but there might be the opportunity for a Trump-led bipartisan ticket with a sturdy centrist Illinois Democrat in the VP slot...

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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fuckin' nuclear power plants. How do they work?

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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"Filed to: Cuckservatives"



(It's a dumb story.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Pennsylvania, along with Michigan and Wisconsin, is part of an infuriating breed: blue state in presidential years, red state in off-years.

That said, Corbett was so hated that Wolf managed to achieve victory in loving 2014, against the tide.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Like I said, my map is a very good map.


That's a lesson about turnout more than anything.

No doubt. I'd be close to saying it's exclusively about turnout.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Xanderkish posted:

And yet Pennsylvania is still unable to break free of its history of electing Toms. Three in the last two decades. It's a conspiracy of Toms, I tell ya.

Only Rendell can save us.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Good Citizen posted:

I know Barack hasn't had quite as much influence on the condition of black Americans as we hoped but this seems a little harsh

:staredog:

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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IllIllIll posted:

Thoughts on what the Donald would do after he loses, either the nomination or the general?



He will have a reality television program.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Shimrra Jamaane posted:

For some reason I've never seen him call anyone else smart. Maybe he did for Putin idk.

Nah Blue Squares is correct.

See here, fron the prelapsarian days of August 2015.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Nevvy Z posted:

Source? I feel like that's a schedule the government controls not the immigrants.

Source.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Hollismason posted:

Also, everyone going Hillary will win etc.. remember that the Republican's at the state level have been really pursuing their voter suppression agenda. So, while everyone is like "Oh she'll totally win" should realize that in some states they've massively closed new polling places, moved polling places, rejected basic forms of id etc...

The Brennan Center for Justice has done a lot of good research on this topic.

Browse here, I'm phone-posting from work so can't collect the best parts at the moment.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Tobermory posted:

A lot of it is coming from Kasich, because he's not dropping out and has no other conceivable way of getting the nomination. The only real arguments I've heard in favor of it are that he's run a relatively smear-free campaign compared to the other candidates

Clearly you're forgetting the devestating burn that destroyed Jeb! once and for all.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Stereotype posted:

If you bring a snake into Hawaii they'll fine you $200k and put you in jail for three years.

Hawai'i go bragh

ETA: I found that stupid ad where the Snake thing came from, in case you want to reminisce over the quaint sparring between the Jeb! and Kasich camps so many moons ago.

GalacticAcid fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Mar 15, 2016

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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menino posted:

McGovern was running against an incumbent who was riding a huge rebound bump from the worst recession since 1929. Not in the least comparable

The AFL-CIO under Meaney also refused to support him.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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lizardman posted:

I almost never post in D&D but even I'm surprised at all the incredulity over the notion that the GOP is going to keep the nomination away from Trump at the convention. We've been hearing murmurings about the establishment 'begging' Romney to run since last year, Romney basically announced publicly that this was the plan, and just about every move they've made supports this and peoples' responses seem to just be "they couldn't. They wouldn't". They may not necessarily pull the trigger, but they're absolutely laying the groundwork for this. At this point I'd be more surprised if it didn't happen.

I think we're also overlooking just how deeply fractured the republicans are at this point. The party and its 'base' have been a dysfunctional marriage for years now and it's hurtling towards 'irreconcilable differences' territory if it's not already there. Everyone knows the republicans are going to have more and more demographic troubles into the future and you can tell reading some of the establishment media that a lot of folks in the party are itching to dump the "white trash" and it may as well be now - because when your base wants to nominate Donald loving Trump, maybe it's time to get a new base.

I have ZERO clue where they could go from here but keep an ear out because sooner than you think we're going to start hearing some dog whistles meant to bring up images of meth heads, yokels, juggalos, and trailer parks, I guarantee it.


Kilroy posted:

Didn't somebody in this very thread call this, probably within the last 48 hours? White trash rhetoric, junkies and the like?

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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This is not about a person but about states' rights a principle.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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No War But The Race War

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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My friend just asked me who will play Trump in Hillary's debate prep and I'm utterly stumped.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Icon Of Sin posted:

They could call :vince: in a pinch.

I doubt that.

(The McMahons are Republicans).

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Syjefroi posted:

Well, http://www.thenation.com/article/north-carolinas-voter-id-law-could-block-218000-registered-voters-from-the-polls/

It mentions that in North Carolina alone, 218,000 registered voters found themselves without an acceptable form of ID they would need to vote in the primary. Those laws disproportionally affect Democratic-leaning voters. Now, while Dem turnout is down a little this year compared to 2008, it's down by around 500,000 votes in NC. Republican turnout is up.

On the other hand - Illinois, for example, cast around the same number of votes this year as they did in 2008. No ID is necessary to vote there.

More: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/15/3760266/north-carolina-voter-id/

tl;dr voter ID laws are having the exact effect that is desired, as explained by idiots who can't keep their mouth shut about their poo poo plan to gently caress over black people.

There's also a good repository of research papers on that subject here, assembled by the Brennan Center.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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fishmech posted:

And unless you have some way to force like 60 foreign countries to raise their wages those jobs are never ever coming back.

Socialism In Sixty Countries

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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DemeaninDemon posted:

Playing the long con here. His not 100% dickholery will score a primary challenger that's batshit like that Sarah O'Donnel witch. Or bearded man governor of Idaho candidate.

:goonsay: Christine O'Donnell. They played the "I'm not a witch" audio on NPR a couple weeks ago and I was wracked by nostalgia.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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1-800-DOCTORB posted:

I must have missed this but since when is John McCain at risk of losing his senate seat?


computer parts posted:

I think it's because Trump hates him and he'll tell his followers to vote Democrat in the Arizona Senate election or something.

His approval ratings are really low but it's just that the tea party / trumpist wings of the party hate him, which artificially deflates his political viability. Kirkpatrick is a good candidate though, I'm hoping she can keep it close enough to maybe swing a house race or two but I'm not familiar enough with AZ districting to know what's feasible.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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Still relevant, it seems.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LarryWebsite/status/677697533930524673

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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I've never set foot in Arizona but for some reason I wound up on the AZ Democratic Party's email list.

Apparently a lot of people are upset with disorganization during today's primary.



Edit: lol beat

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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I like reading about terribly run businesses and then saying that government should be run like a business.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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"Relatively low voter turnout is a sign of a content democracy."

-Mitch McConnell

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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fishmech posted:

Well come on, isn't "allowed Paul Ryan to exist" a drat good reason to destroy something?

Sometimes you have to throw a few babies out with the bathwater.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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As a True Conservative, Ted believes his lovers should get themselves off.

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

God loving damnit Donald. Don't make me side with Ted Cruz.

As Ted Cruz of course knows, the Zodiac declares 2016: Year of the Rat-gently caress

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