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She wants to be President so she can get away with even worse stuff than she already has.
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Maoist Pussy posted:It would be cool if Yalie careerists like her went to prison more often? I think we can all agree on this. If forums user Maoist Pussy goes to jail for it, so should former walmart board member and doddering #abeula Hillary.
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Mar 1, 2016 23:35
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tldr: She used a private email server to act as a Freedom of Information Act shelter because she coordinated sketchy and illegal weapons deals with foreign powers in exchange for donations to the Clinton slush fund, the Clinton Foundation and never wanted these emails to be possibly made public.
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Mar 1, 2016 23:44
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Meta Ridley posted:tldr: She used a private email server to act as a Freedom of Information Act shelter because she coordinated sketchy and illegal weapons deals with foreign powers in exchange for donations to the Clinton slush fund, the Clinton Foundation and never wanted these emails to be possibly made public. Source? I mean, sure there were weapons deals out of Benghazi to Syria, but did the Foundation really get monies for it?
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Mar 2, 2016 00:50
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Count Roland posted:Source? Absolutely not. The Clinton Foundation is a great international charity and that it's getting smeared is loving ridiculous. It also is a highly public institution and not a 'slush fund'. They do scary stuff like work on AIDS and women's rights.
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Mar 2, 2016 00:55
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Obdicut posted:Absolutely not. The Clinton Foundation is a great international charity and that it's getting smeared is loving ridiculous. It also is a highly public institution and not a 'slush fund'. They do scary stuff like work on AIDS and women's rights. Doesn't the Foundation get large sums of money from very powerful sources that work closely with the Clintons and with the US government? eg foreign governments, wall st bigwigs, major corporations etc. Not that this in itself is bad, but it does raise questions of conflict of interest. It does seem unlikely that the Clintons would want or especially need to withdraw money for personal use.
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Mar 2, 2016 01:00
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Count Roland posted:Doesn't the Foundation get large sums of money from very powerful sources that work closely with the Clintons and with the US government? eg foreign governments, wall st bigwigs, major corporations etc. Not that this in itself is bad, but it does raise questions of conflict of interest. It does seem unlikely that the Clintons would want or especially need to withdraw money for personal use. Jesus loving christ no it doesn't raise anything at all. It's not even that the Clintons don't want to withdraw money, they couldn't, it's a loving public charity. This is the dumbest conspiracy story ever. Like look at what the Clinton Foundation actually is before believing poo poo like this. etalian posted:Clinton foundation donors ended up winning stuff like contracts related to rebuilding Haiti. They don't 'win' contracts to rebuild haiti, no, and no they weren't 'caught'. Please look into the Clinton Foundation before including them in your nutty anti-Clinton poo poo please, because they do amazingly good work across the globe and don't deserve this half-baked lunatic conspiracy mongering. Obdicut has issued a correction as of 01:04 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Mar 2, 2016 01:02
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Count Roland posted:Source? Clinton foundation donors ended up winning stuff like contracts related to rebuilding Haiti. The Clinton Foundation also got caught not reporting big cash donations from foreign persons and governments such as Algeria.
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Mar 2, 2016 01:03
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Count Roland posted:Source? https://www.rt.com/usa/262145-clinton-foundation-arms-repressive/ http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187
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Mar 2, 2016 01:04
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gobbagool posted:I think we can all agree on this. If forums user Maoist Pussy goes to jail for it, so should former walmart board member and doddering #abeula Hillary. My body is ready.
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Mar 2, 2016 01:05
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Obdicut posted:Jesus loving christ no it doesn't raise anything at all. It's not even that the Clintons don't want to withdraw money, they couldn't, it's a loving public charity. This is the dumbest conspiracy story ever. Yes I know what it is, and I've read in very reputable papers eyebrows being raised over the charities doings, and, yes, possible conflict of interest. I don't believe anything in particular, I'm just curious.
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Count Roland posted:Yes I know what it is, and I've read in very reputable papers eyebrows being raised over the charities doings, and, yes, possible conflict of interest. It's interesting to note that Charity Navigator refuses to rate them. They previously had the Clinton Foundation on their shitlist of bad charities due to lack of disclosures. Once the disclosures were made the decision was to note rate them for some reasons.
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Mar 2, 2016 01:17
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In addition to the sketchy behaviour of the Clinton Foundation itself there's also just the general tendency for corporations doing business with the Clinton state department to coincidentally give millions to Bill Clinton in "speaking fees". But hey, please research Bill Clinton's speeches before including them in your nutty conspiracy theories because those speeches do amazingly good work across the globe and don't deserve this half-baked lunatic conspiracy mongering.
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Mar 2, 2016 01:17
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iyaayas01 in the GiP current events thread actually summed it up pretty well: iyaayas01 posted:So in non-Yokel Haram news, there's been a couple updates in the Clinton email spectacle. The most significant one for me is apparently at least one of the emails that "just" contained SCI had info that was HCS protected....so her reckless behavior put at least one HUMINT source at risk. Also there was massive buffoonery involving the use of Blackberries (ignore the link source, it's just a copy of the actual memo in question), including using them while in foreign countries (including China If any one else did 1/10 of the poo poo Clinton pulled they would be put in jail for 20+ years.
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BexGu posted:If any one else did 1/10 of the poo poo Clinton pulled they would be put in jail for 20+ years. They didn't jail Petraeus.
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Mar 2, 2016 03:54
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Yeah that's interesting dude but in this timeline the entire Bush administration aren't convicted felons.
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Mar 2, 2016 03:57
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Petraeus got disgraced and punished (through lightly) with his political future being ruined. Clinton won't even get a slap on a the wrist.
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BexGu posted:Petraeus got disgraced and punished (through lightly) with his political future being ruined. Clinton won't even get a slap on a the wrist. You claimed somebody who'd done 1% of that would be sent to jail for 20 years. Petraeus qualifies.
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Mar 2, 2016 04:05
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I'm sure The Clinton Foundation took money from Saudi Arabia because the Saudis wanted to promote women's rights and HIV prevention. After arranging for SA to get 24 billion dollars worth of fighter jets, which is probably just a coincidence.
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Mar 2, 2016 04:12
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I would be okay with Clinton taking a pretty cool VP and getting impeached real quick.
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Mar 2, 2016 04:17
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Arsenic Lupin posted:You claimed somebody who'd done 1% of that would be sent to jail for 20 years. Petraeus qualifies.  Incorrect! I said 1/10! That 10%! Your snarky semantics aside I was referring to normal people, not the elites.
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Mar 2, 2016 04:20
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BexGu posted:
Is that actually true. I mean tons of people are sloppy as poo poo with things and you never hear about prols getting long prison sentences for mishandling data.
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Mar 2, 2016 04:43
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I donated money to her election
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Mar 2, 2016 04:56
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Bip Roberts posted:Is that actually true. I mean tons of people are sloppy as poo poo with things and you never hear about prols getting long prison sentences for mishandling data. I mean, its not big news, but poo poo happens: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/florida-resident-sentenced-accessing-and-removing-classified-information-military-computers quote:Christopher R. Glenn, 34, a South Florida Resident, was sentenced on July 31, 2015, to 120 months of imprisonment to be followed by three years of supervised release by U.S. District Judge Kenneth A. Marra of the Southern District of Florida following his guilty plea for willful retention of classified national defense information under the Espionage Act, computer intrusion under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and conspiracy to commit naturalization fraud. This dude basically had his military career ended for taking some stuff home but was able to walk away without any prison time by pleading guilty: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/06/19/sailor-pleads-guilty-to-mishandling-documents.html
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Mar 2, 2016 05:20
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Obdicut posted:Absolutely not. The Clinton Foundation is a great international charity and that it's getting smeared is loving ridiculous. It also is a highly public institution and not a 'slush fund'. They do scary stuff like work on AIDS and women's rights. Sounds like they should change their name imo. No need to be affiliated with the toxic dauphin de Américain. ate shit on live tv has issued a correction as of 05:42 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Mar 2, 2016 05:38
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Remember this media mistake from the Petraeus circus?
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Mar 2, 2016 05:40
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Tony Homo posted:I donated money to her election Apt title.
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Mar 2, 2016 05:43
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Does anyone know if the convening of a federal grand jury is public or not? I'm curious as to whether, if the justice dept were inclined to indict Hillary, any information in support of that would be public at this phase. The process, as I understand it, would be: FBI Investigation -> Grand Jury -> Indictment/No Indictment, and we have evidence that the FBI is poking around, but would we get any indication that an indictment was imminent prior to it actually occurring?
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Mar 2, 2016 06:28
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OMG JC a Bomb! posted:I'm sure The Clinton Foundation took money from Saudi Arabia because the Saudis wanted to promote women's rights and HIV prevention. After arranging for SA to get 24 billion dollars worth of fighter jets, which is probably just a coincidence. This is literally Clinton's defense. "We can't stop them from making a contribution for all the great work the Clinton Foundation does, they are just very charitable  " Also keep in mind those fighter jets are manufactured by Boeing, which ALSO donated to the Clinton Foundation and gave hundreds of thousands in Speaking Fees to the Clintons, during the time the State Department made the decision on which company gets the bid. In Fact Hillary would regularly upsell Boeing jets. The Clintons are corrupt profiteers and it is a shame a neoliberal criminal is going to be the Democratic nominee.
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Mar 2, 2016 06:42
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Meta Ridley posted:The Clintons are corrupt profiteers and it is a shame a neoliberal criminal is going to be the Democratic nominee.
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zen death robot posted:But can you keep the nuke codes in proper order poo poo. They were somewhere on my desk under all these napkins and junk flyers.
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Mar 2, 2016 09:54
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basically the dumbass GOP exposed the state department's secret communications to the marxist kenyan dictator in chief they were trying to undermine, thus abetting the destruction of american values nice job NOT
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Mar 2, 2016 10:41
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Meta Ridley posted:This is literally Clinton's defense. "We can't stop them from making a contribution for all the great work the Clinton Foundation does, they are just very charitable To actually make this a real accusation and not just a gibbering mess of obvious bias, you'd have to look at countries that didn't give to the Clinton Foundation vs. those that did, and compare arms sales to them. You can also look at time periods when the Saudis didn't give money to the Clinton Foundation, and see if their arms deals suffered. You won't do that, though, partially because you probs know it'll show you're wrong but also because you're just lazy and/or don't actually know how to do it.
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Mar 2, 2016 12:36
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Obdicut posted:To actually make this a real accusation and not just a gibbering mess of obvious bias, you'd have to look at countries that didn't give to the Clinton Foundation vs. those that did, and compare arms sales to them. You can also look at time periods when the Saudis didn't give money to the Clinton Foundation, and see if their arms deals suffered. Don't worry the FBI is currently doing all that work for me.
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Mar 2, 2016 12:41
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Meta Ridley posted:Don't worry the FBI is currently doing all that work for me. Yeah, I'm not worried. But thanks for confirming you're just spewing poo poo without knowing poo poo.
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Obdicut posted:Yeah, I'm not worried. But thanks for confirming you're just spewing poo poo without knowing poo poo. Is that u hilldawg
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Mar 2, 2016 14:12
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The email scandal is 100% a right wing conspiracy and the fact that nothing will come from it is proof of Clinton's innocence.
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Right wing conspiracy theorists like the FBI.
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T r a v i s posted:Right wing conspiracy theorists like the FBI. The PR for Clinton Brian Fallon implied in interviews he thought independent appointments such as the intel Inspector General were working with the republicans to make Hillary look bad.
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etalian posted:The PR for Clinton Brian Fallon implied in interviews he thought independent appointments such as the intel Inspector General were working with the republicans to make Hillary look bad. As if the Republicans need to even try to make hillary look bad
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