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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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steinrokkan posted:

Well, those don't seem like unreasonable demands, unless, of course, he's using the pretext of asking for more resources to aid refugees to ensure that in the end all aid will be scraped altogether due to bargaining conflicts.

I don't think Erdogan is dumb enough to want aid scrapped, there's basically no universe in which Turkey doesn't have a whole bunch of Syrian and Iraqi refugees for the foreseeable future and they definitely do need money to help with that.

I'm less confident of Erdogan's rationality as a policymaker than I used to be, though.

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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steinrokkan posted:

Last I checked a visa waiver (placing a country into Annex II) doesn't put you into Schengen. There's still a border check, you know.

When I crossed from Ukraine to Slovakia I, a Schengen citizen, was still pretty thoroughly inspected, all my luggage unpacked and each item examined individually, and I was questioned on basic questions of what I did in the country etc. That was just to curb smuggling - I can only imagine what they would do investigating a person without the freedom of movement status crossing from a potentially dangerous country. The Schengen checks can be as tough as you want them to be.

Ukraine to Slovakia? :raise:

Realized halfway through you probably meant by plane but decided to keep the question

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:

Somebody set up us the bomb in Berlin.

We get signal: The Guardian

One man dead, suspected criminal ties, blew up at a pretty much random location.

My immediate guess is that this is more "dispute between rival criminal organizations unlicensed entrepreneurs" than anything else.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Friendly Humour posted:

Tell me more about legislative process in the EU.

This but unironically.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Pluskut Tukker posted:

Where would you like to start (also, how bored are you prepared to get) ? The EU has a pretty good guide explaining the institutions and procedures. But the actual politics and policy-making are far more involved in practice, as are the interaction between the member states and the EU institutions, not to mention the role of subnational and transnational actors.

I do love goon summaries, but thanks for the easy link (which may be useful to other folks, which is part of why I asked instead of googling).

I am prepared to get pretty bored and listen to interesting details about almost anything.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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GaussianCopula posted:

I don't see how it would, as long as Turkey still has to fulfill all the requirements for visa liberalization, which seems to be the case, there are very few downsides, unless you believe that €6billion earmarked for refugee projects (and never directly given to the Turkish government) is going to make a difference in Erdogan's quest to become Sultan.

Honestly I am mostly okay with the "give Turkey and Lebanon assloads of money and NGO personnel to defray refugee costs" solution. At least until / unless Erdogan finds a way to screw it up / siphon off an unreasonable amount of the dough.

If the refugee centers can be made not poo poo, everybody wins.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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"Those that don’t want to [adhere to the dress code] must be able to say they don’t want to work on those flights.” - union spokesperson

Sounds like a reasonable compromise to me.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Gaj posted:

is there any such imposition for flights going to Saudi Arabia or any of the other cover-up nations?

As per the article, the policy has been in place re Saudi Arabia for a while.

I do not know whether the SA policy is "we will exempt you from these flights if requested".

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Bojo is still mayor? Dang.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Brainiac Five posted:

From a historical perspective, integrating or attempting to integrate the designated reserve army of labor has often been more fruitful than attempting to expel them- the rural unions that violently expelled immigrant and black labor largely died out, while unions that integrated have at least survived if not thrived.

Or, broadly speaking, in the absence of a dictatorship of the proletariat, when attempting to expel immigrants you have to win much more often than with integrating them.

Sounds entirely plausible. Do you have any (hopefully not bone dry :v: ) reading on that? I am not exactly up on anything but the broader strokes of labor history and that may also apply to other readers.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Holy poo poo. :laffo:

I have a LITTLE sympathy for Georgia in the brawl, insofar as Russia was playing a really annoying game of Not Touching You in Ossetia and Saakashvili eventually got tired of it and made a really dumb decision.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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waitwhatno posted:

Looks like sanity prevailed this time, good job everyone. Now all we need is a landslide Trump defeat and I can start feeling human again.



credit to some goon in scotpol

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Sereri posted:

Scotland should start building a wall, to keep the English rapists and murderers out. The English will even pay for the wall.

Let's be honest here, England's not sending their best. Some, I assume, are good people.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Riso posted:

Doesn't Spain have 50% youth unemployment?
Why would you invite hordes of foreigners of questionable cultural and educational backgrounds instead of asking Spaniards to come to your country?

No good. I've known too many Spaniards.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Kurtofan posted:

Bastia's high court uphold the public order decree in a Corsican village, you thought this was the end but nope

Corsica knows what they did.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Pinch Me Im Meming posted:

POS MEP got rekted by some other POS MEP.



Concussions bad, but on the other hand :laffo:.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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MiddleOne posted:

And then he announces his intent to reform the Holy Roman Empire.

I'm on board.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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you feelin fucky posted:

Ikea only operates one store directly: Ikea Delft. The rest are all officially franchises, who pay franchise fees to a (tax-free) charity promoting interior design. Take that sweden. :geert:


One of my greek friends used to help out the family business during summer. They arranged import licenses. Dad rented an office in the ministry's basement and son would walk around with the form, a cup of coffee and 20 euros. He offered the officials a "coffee break" in return for the necessary stamps. It was a full time job, but it shouldn't exist. This entire business model shouldn't exist.

That's genius. :allears:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Baron Corbyn posted:

I'll be very impressed by the restraint of some people if they didn't pronounce that the way I imagine they did.

Gipski is, as far as I know, only offensive insofar as it lightly mocks Polish postfixes.

:saddowns:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Toplowtech posted:

Well it looks like the divorce is going to force England to solve all the small conflicts it wouldn't even want to discuss during the marriage. Spain wants to keep the rock obviously. We should ask for some Normand islands just to scare some tax dodgers while we are at it. :france:

If you guys want to renegotiate the terms of the Thirteen Colonies' autonomy, I wouldn't be too upset.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Pinch Me Im Meming posted:

Second dead police according to Libération.

But then again terrorizing the police is like Polish cavalrying the Panzers.

Fun fact, Polish dragoons totally ruined the day of a mechanized unit because "carry gun to location on horse, dismount, shoot gun" is pretty effective when gun is antitank rifle. :v:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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What on earth is with the 35% in Guyana in particular who voted for Le Pen? "She'll keep the colored folks out of France :toot: "

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Allah akbar.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Mierenneuker posted:

Isn't this because the current Polish ruling party is butthurt not too thrilled about Donald Tusk though?

And also raving nutters, yes.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Jerry Cotton posted:

If someone finds me in an unseaworthy vessel in the Mediterranean Sea I certainly hope they don't just dump me in Libya.

My aunt was kayaking on the Danube and next thing she knew she was in Tripoli. :saddowns:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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GaussianCopula posted:

The referendum is illegal and the Spanish government has the duty to do everything to stop it. They should throw every Catalonian official who acts against the Spanish constitution and the verdict of the Spanish constitutional court in prison and not negotiate with traitors.

I was ambivalent and curious about arguments for and against, but now I guess I have to be pro-Catalexit.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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GaussianCopula posted:



Which army would that be?

The Carlists, who have been sewing banners and stockpiling arms since

well, forever, but the most conveniently ludicrous date is 1975.

Apparently the current* Carlist candidate is pretender to the throne of Portugal, for bonus weirdness.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Pluskut Tukker posted:

Of course, if you give income-dependent aid to the poor, then at the cutoff point for that aid you're creating disincentives to work too. Also, there is no political constituency to protect programs like SNAP if they are entirely income-dependent, since voters above the cutoff point are only going to support these programs if they are sufficiently altruistic to do so, and that voting bloc is frequently not large enough to maintain an electoral majority (also, SNAP doesn't give its beneficiaries money; it gives them food stamps). Therefore, if your primary interest is in protecting the poor, there's a strong case for supporting universal programs even if they're economically not the most efficient.

While I'm a huge fan of universal programs, income traps are trivially avoidable for individual programs with a gradual drop off of benefits.

Of course, the problem still arises with people receiving subsidies for food AND fuel AND daycare or whatever still hitting a point where earning a marginal dollar loses more than a marginal dollar in benefits, which is why universal basic income is the best solution. :v:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Truga posted:

They're going to do this transition thing until UK decides not to leave, so they can then say "ok, since you were technically out for a couple years, you lose all your special snowflake benefits".

At least I hope they do that.

While shooting the British pound in the head would be hilarious it would also cause a nontrivial amount of global economic upset.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Cat Mattress posted:

Tabarnak! Here comes Tabarnian separatism!

https://www.change.org/p/habitantes-de-barcelona-autonomia-para-tabarnia




Basically, Barcelona and Tarragona separating from Catalonia so as to remain in Spain.

I hereby withdraw my neighborhood from the country of North College Station, which seceded from Greater Brazos, which seceded from the illegal and immoral Dallas Occupation zone formerly of Mega-Houston, which

edit: I further request that we be admitted as a voting province of Sri Lanka

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Mar 28, 2010

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dirty lousy tramp posted:

they're state capitalists when the good bad stuff happens and a one party communist regime when the bad good stuff happens

Cat Mattress posted:

They're corrupt authoritarian oligarchs, in other words, what every ~wealth generator~ and ~job creator~ aspires to become, which is why the entire academic field of economic is systematically filled with trickle-down shills.

i will say this is all throwing me a bit for a loop, my economics education (and the professors and research therein) is no-poo poo what turned me from a libertarian to a social democrat

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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I am 200% on board for obscure internal discussions in the fin-de-siecle socialist movement

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Truga posted:

i like how yall just decided to not read the human part

what's wrong with turning the green belts around cities into longpork farms?

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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stephenthinkpad posted:

That investor interview predicted a state directed "decoupling" "friendshoring" investment boom. But this is the US agenda. EU agenda is still on the green energy COP26 27 28 narrative. Germany big companies just invest 100+ billions in China. When it comes to energy transition, EU and China are on the cooperation trajectory.

friendshoring is the most ridiculous term I've heard since the last time i read an article written by an MBA

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