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Rappaport posted:I admit to being a lazy goon, but it seems simpler to have a distilled version of what the various parties are saying rather than trying to wade through whatever gobbledygook they've bothered to translate on their websites for us non-Germans All parties except for the AfD and the National Socialists are behind Merkel right now. Refugees from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq have a very high chance to receive asylum and if they stay for three(?) years, they will get permanent residence. Integration assistance varies a lot. People are getting everything from free entrance to public pools to free language courses. A lot of the support is from NGOs, so there is not a single system with a single approach for the entire country.
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GaussianCopula posted:If they stay for three years they will get permanent asylum, which can be revoked as soon as the reason for their asylum is no longer given. We already had this discussion in the Germany thread, remember? http://www.bamf.de/DE/Migration/AsylFluechtlinge/Asylverfahren/Rechtsfolgen/rechtsfolgen-node.html The Niederlassungserlaubnis/"Permit to settle" is permanent and unconditional, as the name suggests.
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GaussianCopula posted:Highlighted the relevant part for you. Losing your refugee status does not mean that you automatically lose the niederlassungserlaubnis. This is the strongest type of residence permit that we have and it is given to people to put down permanent roots in the country. It can't just be revoked at will and without good reason. That would be extremely hosed up.
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Pochoclo posted:Can eurogoons tell me if Brexit is gonna happen or not? Because I'm moving to London to work next month and it would really suck. Very unlikely, the economic damage would be enormous and there are no real advantages to leaving. Even if there is enough support in the population for it, a multi-billion dollar media campaign can give you any referendum result you want. Businesses want the UK to stay.
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GaussianCopula posted:Interesting graph from the WSJ which shows that reforms can have pretty significant impact on unemployment. Just wanted to post it as a follow up to my post in the old thread a few days ago. Jesus Christ, what a lovely graphic, what lovely journalism. Quick, someone overlay the unemployment rates of some cherry picked countries with "reforms"/random poo poo for the last 10 years, then cherry pick a couple events that back up your wild claims and ignore any other coincidental correlation that would contradict them. Journalism! e: those reforms might very well have something to do with those changes in unemployment, but you sure as hell can't tell that from doing some drive-by "chart analysis". GABA ghoul fucked around with this message at 10:29 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Cat Mattress posted:Effectively including Turkey in the Schengen area is the stupidest thing to come out of Europe in a long, long while. Sure we want the visa-free travel area to have a direct border with Syria, of course we do. After all, it's not like Daesh has claimed terror attacks in Europe, and threatened to do more. It's a political suicide. It's as insane as suggesting to build a direct bridge between Libya and Italy. Most of Europe has visa-free travel with the US. Such an arrangement doesn't necessarily has to be a security risk.
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Lagotto posted:No we dont, most of Europe needs an electronic visa, same as with Turkey. That is not the same as visa free at all, visa free of course implies a security risk. It's kinda amazing how you manage to be so consistently wrong with everything you say. Does that ever make you wonder that maybe you don't really "have it all figured out", when people keep correcting you all the time with objective reality? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_Waiver_Program
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Lagotto posted:What's the material difference? It is literally the same system Turkey has in place with the EU. ESTA is a formal check to confirm that you qualify for the visa waiver program. It is fully automatic and no decision is made whether you are allowed to enter the US or not. If you are not eligible for VWP, ESTA informs you beforehand, so that you can apply for a visa. A visa is given out by embassies/consulates, after checking your eligibility to enter the country. The process often involves a personal interview, presenting hotel reservations, financial statements, etc. You can be denied a visa for almost any reason. The practical difference is that with visa-free travel, you can just go online, whip out your credit card, fill out the online form stating that you are not a terrorist and that you do not have syphilis and hop on a plane. That's what Turkey wants.
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Lagotto posted:I know that is what Turkey wants, but the point is that this implies a security risk, so that is not something that in my opinion we should want. Your claim is that that is not necessarily true since Schengen has free visa travel to the States. I am sorry but that is not the case, as you can tell from your own post. And that is not even mentioning the ungodly amount of citizen data Schengen is pooring into the US databases and the extensive NSA databases the e-applications are crossed referenced with. I don't know this for sure, but I think that the visa process is mostly there to filter out illegal immigrants/social system abuse. (confirming that you have financial independence, have health insurance, a return ticket, no intentions of working illegally, etc.) The security aspect of international travel is mostly realized through biometric passports, finger print readers, no-fly lists, international terrorist databases, etc. Mostly stuff that can be done without visas.
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CSU(hillbilly party; the party that has been ruling the state of Bavaria for all of its history) demands for Turkey to be declared a secure state, before any visa-free travel agreement can take place. They don't want any Turkish/Kurdish tourist to come here and apply for asylum from the Erdogan regime. Meta irony on top of meta irony. It's meta all the way down.
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Randler posted:Why would a Turkish tourist need to request asylum in Germany while the Ankara agreement already gives him extensive freedom of movement with regards to the EU? Apparently, Kurdish refugees from Turkey have been coming to Germany for quite some time now. They have been one of the largest asylum seeker groups, before the gates of hades where thrown open last summer.
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Lagotto posted:http://balkanist.net/turkeys-mysterious-disappearing-refugees/ Yes, of course. Idiot Europe Magoo just forgot to subtract all those people leaving Turkey. Luckily, the brilliant journalists at balkanist.net noticed the discrepancy and saved the world. Thank God!
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steinrokkan posted:im afraid that if the brexit goes through i wont be able to buy cheap cheddar and proper bacon any more Good. Then you might finally try some real cheese, instead of that liquefied and fermented socks smell.
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Gimme odds on Brexit reigniting the "South Will Rise Again" nonsense. I don't think Britain has the power to stop the EU from seceding.
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Tesseraction posted:So who's the leader of AfD and does he also have a hilarious countenance? You decide: 
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It's bad, pretty bad, but you gotta put things in perspective. While the AfD is right-wing populist by European standards, it's pretty harmless compared to the Republican party& Trumpism. Frauke Petry(AfD headclown)caused a national uproar when she suggested that the German border, when necessary, should be defended by force from refugees. Afterwards, she quickly backpedaled and even tried to deny the comment at first. And now look at Trump. He proclaims, on national television, that he wants to massacre ISIS woman and children and people applaud. He announces that he wants to create a national register for Muslims, analogous to the one that Nazi Germany had for Jews and people applaud. We are all hosed, both sides of the Atlantic. Pray for us.
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Our official motto is "the internet makes you stupid" and our proudest achievements are the slenderman killings and 9/11 yakety sax. Siriously, why would you come to this dead gay comedy forum and complain about people making jokes? And what's the deal with insomnia, anyway? Like, first your brain is all "nah, I don't need no stinkin' sleep, I'm fine" and then when you need to get up it's all "zzzZzzzzZ, i'm too tired to get up!". What's up with that? Have you ever noticed that?
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I can't believe that I have to point out the obvious, but a 100m wide moat would be completely sufficient. There is no reason to waste trillions on wall construction. It's well known that Germans are heavier than water and do not float, that's how we used to spot stasi spies during the cold war.
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Tesseraction posted:It's specifically that tampons are more expensive because they're legally classed as a 'luxury' item, which anyone who's ever spoken to someone on their period would know is patronising bullshit. Cameron got a lot of grief over this considering our economy's in the shitter and the price of something needed regularly matters. Jesus Christ, that's the kind of argument that anti-EU advocates managed to come up with? Seriously, what's is wrong with people on this planet? Tax the freaking razors and let's get on with this shitshow. It's not like we don't have any real problems.
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Randler posted:And where I might find this EU classification? I don't really understand this part: quote:"There is an argument to make them [tampons] exempt on the provision that healthcare is exempt," he says. But he adds that there are drawbacks to removing VAT because it's a positive rate. "By that I mean that when a business makes an item that is zero-rated it can recover the VAT of some of the associated costs of production. So, a tampon maker could recover the VAT on their supplies, but the supply maker couldn't do the same with their own supplies? Why would the costs for consumers go up because of this?
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GaussianCopula posted:Basically businesses don't pay VAT on their inputs, because they can subtract the output VAT (VAT payed by the consumer) from it. In the case of zero rated products, there is no output VAT and therefore the producer has to pay full VAT on their (not VAT exempt) inputs. This can result in higher pre-tax consumer prices, because the producer has to increase the price to compensate for it. Yeah, that's how I always imagined the system to work, but the text seems to say the exact opposite: "By that I mean that when a business makes an item that is zero-rated it can recover the VAT of some of the associated costs of production." And I still don't see how it could actually increase consumer prices. The manufacturing costs go up, but the product price is also lowered by the tax exemption at the same time. I mean, the manufacturer could never recover more money from his suppliers, than the consumers paid in taxes. That's the whole idea of VAT.
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Randler posted:A manufacturer (M) makes tampons. For one shipment of tampons he requires supplies, which he purchases from his supplier (S) for 500 CU before tax. M then takes these supplies and fashions them into one shipment of tampons. He then this one shipment of tampons to his buyer (B). To determine the sales price before tax M looks at the costs for the materials he used an adds a 10 percent charge for labour costs and his profit margin. The applicable general VAT rate is 20 percent unless stated otherwise. That makes sense. I always thought that you must count your VAT claims against your own VAT debts, I didn't know that you can just get your claims directly from the government, in a laundry bag with a euro sign on it.
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Holy poo poo, the Brussels thread has the shittiest rating in D&D, what the hell is going on in there? It's the Fins and Eastern Europeans again, isn't it?
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Friendly Humour posted:I guess we could try bombing them back and see if things improve. Keep pigs in the all the metro stations and airports in the country. Charge money for petting them to finance the pigs, Kids pet for free. In fact, everyone should keep pigs and have them around at all times. What about these micro pigs, that George Clooney keeps as pets? We should ask him where he got these micro hogs.
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punakone posted:I take it you have taken time to become familiar with the Finnish defence doctrine to make such statements? The keyword is cost. I am sure its nice to be under the US nuclear umbrella but some of us actually have To do some legwork If you are afraid of drunken hordes of Russian conscripts storming your precious bogs and empty forests, join NATO. Have you watched the Iraq war? A couple hunting muskets or whatever are not gonna stop a modern army.
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Friendly Humour posted:Afghanistan. Soviets took Afghanistan in a couple weeks, if I remember correctly. Northern alliance didn't need much longer with American support.
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Friendly Humour posted:Which worked out really well for both of them in the end. None of us think we could hold out a week against Russia, which is precisely why we train every single eligible man (and every volunteerin woman) to shoot a rifle and live in the forest. I'm not an expert, but I seriously doubt that small arms had any significant impact on the Soviet/American occupation. IED's and MANPAD's did the trick.
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Friendly Humour posted:I am indeed willing to concede that if the Russians genocide every single male Finn and carpet bomb the cities into ash and drag the women and the children into slavery, they will indeed be able to conquer Finland. Stop doing that. Fins are supposed to be depressed and full of self-loathing. Stop defending your miserable bog country on the internet and resign to your depressing lot in life.
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punakone posted:Sorry phoneposting so double. They were legally bought shoddily deactivated guns, which were illegally modified to be functioning again. Isn't deactivation supposed to be permanent and irreversible? Was it performed incorrectly? Is the seller legally responsible for what happens with the weapons?
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punakone posted:It was a Slovakian company called Kol arms that deactivated them. They had only welded the barrels shut to allow the firing of blanks. They can be made functional by changing the barrel. It was made correctly according to Slovakian laws, but for example in Finland they would have been considered functional. Thus I dont know if the company would actually be responsible for what the end user does. Holy poo poo, what is wrong with Slovakia?
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Chomskyan posted:https://charliehebdo.fr/en/edito/how-did-we-end-up-here/ Ugh, this entire article is based on the belief in a conspiracy theory about Islam criticism being somehow suppressed by a PC-mad media. Like all conspiracy theories, it completely falls apart if you spend ten minutes researching the subject. Radical Islamic cults like ISIS are regularly portrayed as subhumans animals in western media. Misogynistic Arabic practices in Middle Eastern countries and in Europe are heavily criticised and integration problems with immigrants from Islamic countries are constantly brought up.
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hypnorotic posted:Why do Europeans spend so much time on slavery in the US? Wasn't the slave trade in the Caribbean and Brazil much more brutal in terms of life expectancy? Shouldn't she be referencing Haiti instead? Haiti and Brazil are not cultural superpowers flooding every part of the planet with their history and pop culture.
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computer parts posted:Or it could just mean Europeans don't want to point out their own shameful poo poo, like the A modern Brit is not that much more related to the 18th century British Empire than a modern American. Both are remote descendants of it. You don't just get to distance yourself from your European roots and all the horrible poo poo that our ancestors did. Stand by you stupid, inbred European family branch. 
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steinrokkan posted:Like, I'm sorry your ancestors were greedy rapists, murderers and pillagers, but you don't have to turn your shame against us whose families were happy to chill in their serf hovels instead of crossing the ocean in hopes of subjugating the savages and taking their gold and women. My ancestors where oppressed by Bohemian serfs. How dare you whitewashing your history!
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drilldo squirt posted:I don't know dude, white americans stopped burning down black towns awhile ago. I mean can europeans really say they stopped burning down gypsy camps? No, because you literally still do according to google. Nah, gypsies are still far better off than black people in America. The worst gypsy slum in Romania has nothing on the post-apocalyptic Detroit ghetto hell scape. Also, we don't shoot gypsies and only get a little rough with them if they step out of line. Lol  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Lmao, if you think a German pensioner would ever accept some punk-rear end store stealing their money through rounding. The streets of Berlin would overflow with blood.
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blowfish posted:The reasonable 1/4 of population say: I already spending enough time of my lunch break standing behind old ladies doing their daily shopping of two bananas and a BIO yoghurt( it was 8% off this week!). gently caress anything that makes the cashier's work even harder. gently caress having to argue with these bored pensioners. I think it's better to upgrade the cash-free payment infrastructure. The technology is already there, with most new smartphones having a NFC reader. What we need is a nationwide, anonymous card system, like they are used in canteens, to go with these readers.
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Rappaport posted:Finland doesn't use the 1 and 2 cent coins, but if you pay by card you pay the exact amount. So sometimes you win over paying cash, sometimes you lose. How exciting! Did a lot of people complain when you switched to the new system? Like, complain about being "ripped off" by the store?
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