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drilldo squirt posted:Considering this and that last post I'm starting to think you don't know anything about the american or european immigration system. That's incredibly cool!
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Yeah uh maybe I'm being presumptuous here, but I don't think us Europeans need to be looking at America for positive lessons regarding peaceful racial and cultural coexistence. Thanks for popping in tho!
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Apr 12, 2016 15:07
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please stfu about guns punakone nobody gives a gently caress
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Apr 12, 2016 19:53
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Brainiac Five posted:Thus, to oppose diversity is to accept that you are OK with shooting someone for repeatedly listening to Joy Division or keeping halal. If you are uncomfortable with this, either dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed, or admit that diversity is better than the alternatives. Or be intellectually fraudulent, whatever. Critisicism multiculturalism doesn't make someone a nazi you slippery slope loving shartwagon.
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Apr 14, 2016 01:09
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Brainiac Five posted:Nice insult, very cutting. Anyways, you don't have to be a Nazi to be OK with shooting people for thinking the wrong things. In fact, Karl Popper specifically wrote an entire book to argue that being willing to murder people for dissident beliefs is in some cases necessary to defend against Nazism. And, ethically, it's hard to disagree with him. It's just that when you start saying "being monocultural is good" or "being multicultural is bad", you are not only denouncing the Roma, the Jews, the Muslims, etc. but also Goths, punks, emos, metalheads, etc. etc. because they too are cultures that are not THE culture, the monolithic entity that is good. I don't think you understand how satire works, but in the meantime feel free to slide slide that slope straight outta the thread.
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Apr 14, 2016 01:32
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Brainiac Five posted:I'm sure noted racist Ligur was being satirical, or noted dumbshits steinrokkan and blowfish were being satirical, or noted ???? you is being satirical. Maybe you think Karl Popper was being satirical? I don't know. Maybe you got "satirical" and "serious" confused somewhere? That's incredibly cool!
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Apr 14, 2016 01:48
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And that's why it's totally ok for me to act like a twat!
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Apr 14, 2016 02:51
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Rappaport posted:I thought he was involved in forming whatever it originally was, but left doors banging when the party that was formed wasn't genocidey enough for him? Apologies if I associated the Greens with him erroneously. He's just a loon, nobody in the green movement ever took him seriously on any level. His only relevance was and remains as a cudgel for right wingers to beat the greens with.
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Apr 20, 2016 14:45
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I support the death penalty.
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Apr 20, 2016 14:47
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Funny thing about nuclear disasters, they tend to happen to aging reactors that should've been replaced decades ago. One wonders as to why they weren't replaced, who exactly was opposed to building new reactors to replace the dangerous ones? It's almost as if some people want nuclear disasters to happen.
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Apr 22, 2016 17:41
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YF-23 posted:First I never said that coal is cleaner than nuclear, second my explicit point about Fukushima is that ignoring warnings and skirting regulations means that nuclear power is risky in practice no matter how secure it is in theory. Like you're telling me "oh but Japan ignored warnings" as if that somehow refutes my point that warnings don't matter when they're ignored. That's a failure of government, not technology. If a drat bursts because building regulations weren't followed when constructing it, that doesn't make hydropower a risky practice. Misuse of technology is the fault of the people in charge, not the technology being misused.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:09
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YF-23 posted:It's not about whose fault it is, it's about how dangerous the technology is when it's anyone's fault. That doesn't really sound like a good strategy for much else besides terrifying yourself. Anything can and does lead to death and destruction if you've got corrupted crapouts in power, and banning nuclear energy isn't going to change that. Although it will ensure nothing changes for the corrupted crapouts.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:23
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My point though was that the reason that we've got aging reactors that occasionally explode is that we haven't been building new ones to replace them because of political pressure from the ecological movement. And so in the meantime what we got instead of solar and wind power was a whole lot of coal and natural gas. Turns out opposing things without providing a viable alternative is a pretty good strategy if you don't give a flying gently caress about the consequences.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:27
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So then you admit that Germany shutting down its nuclear plants was a disaster for the environment?
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Apr 22, 2016 18:32
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Subjunctive posted:Hydro? Tapped out in Europe.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:42
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Well get to it then!
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Apr 22, 2016 19:06
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YF-23 posted:I don't know the exact statistics, but my non-expert knowledge leads me to agree with that statement. I'm not sure why you are phrasing it using words like "admit", as though I am ashamed of it or something. Then I'm not really sure what you're arguing for here. If eschewing nuclear energy actually results in increased carbon emissions, wouldn't the logical conclusion about opposition to nuclear energy be that it doesn't care about the environmental consequences? And furthermore that the lost opportunity cost for the green movements opposition to nuclear energy for the past half a century has been the aggravation of climate change?
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Apr 22, 2016 19:11
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fishmech posted:The reactor at Fukushima that melted down was specifically on schedule to be replaced about a year after the tsunami hit, as well as another reactor on site that was too heavily damaged to work anymore in the aftermath. I'm aware, but there had been warnings regarding the plant for decades already. It's the same with those Belgian reactors they recently restarted (Doel plant iirc). Aging, damaged things that should've been replaced 10 years ago with new reactors, but haven't been due to political opposition.
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Apr 22, 2016 20:03
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LemonDrizzle posted:Paul Mason wants Austria's EU membership suspended if the far-right candidate wins the presidency: http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...country-from-eu The invocation of Greece isn't spurious, it's an example of how the EU can absolutely destroy a country if it doesn't like its elected government. The irony here is that while the EU leadership is vehemently hostile to all left-wing governments, it does nothing against the far-right ones. Not a word, not a sanction.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36385778quote:'Not such a bad thing' Voter dissatisfaction with democratic institutions isn't really such a bad thing. 
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GaussianCopula posted:Well, the CGT only represents 700,000 members while France has population of ~66,000,000. Just saying. Don't just say, have a point. Now what is it?
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May 27, 2016 09:31
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I really like Schaeuble tho. He's such an honest man when it comes to his disdain of democracy and popular power, it's a refreshing change from the the social-democratic face of his fellow political class.
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May 27, 2016 09:33
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Now there's an election photo.
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May 27, 2016 10:15
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Brainiac Five posted:The vast majority of the French want fewer labor protections? Well, why didn't they say so? We can have a couple expeditionary forces of Marines in by a week from today to begin turning them into slave laborers. I am sure that they will herald this rescue from the tyranny of vacation times. Shut the gently caress up you flagrant retard.
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May 27, 2016 13:15
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GaussianCopula posted:Most European (and I believe even Greece?) democratic systems incorporate the ability for the government to say "if we can't pass this piece of legislation we are not able to continue in our jobs" What ability? Resignation? That's not an "ability incorporated into democratic systems". That's just quitting the job. And anyway, we're at the point in Western democracies where our elected representatives rarely if ever actually represent the interests of the people who voted for them, nevermind the majority. That's the whole reason why we're in a crisis. So one appreciates comments like Schaeuble's where the divide between the people and their rulers is made crystal clear, for that finally allows for the people to realise that no, their interests will not be represented no matter how they vote. Which is great if you happen to be a Marxist!
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May 27, 2016 13:24
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Brainiac Five posted:You know that none of your responses will ever be acknowledged by the far-right motherfuckers like GC, right? Why play Sisyphus? gently caress you. Don't ever post here again.
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May 27, 2016 13:40
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May 27, 2016 14:41
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SSJ2 Goku Wilders posted:i killed the fascist in my head and am back in control -- its the communist goku There is a policeman inside all our heads, he must be destroyed.
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May 27, 2016 14:47
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SSJ2 Goku Wilders posted:Europe is dying due to all the immigrants (lol) fuckup up imho
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May 27, 2016 15:10
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Brainiac Five posted:Categorically rejecting political violence also means rejecting military force, including resistance to insurrection. What is actually meant is "fascists are integratable into liberal democratic politics, so there's never any reason to use violence against them domestically." Which is questionable. No it doesn't you dumb slippery sloping gently caress.
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May 27, 2016 20:41
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Brainiac Five posted:War is the continuation of politics by other means. It is never not political violence. Oh by the might of your pedantic semantics am I defeated! Get the gently caress out.
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May 27, 2016 20:49
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SSJ2 Goku Wilders posted:He's quoting von clausewitz and not clarifying an obvious statement. I agree with him I'm aware. It's still incredibly stupid and retarded to think that denouncing street violence against political opponents has anything to do with maintaining armed forces.
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May 27, 2016 21:01
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SSJ2 Goku Wilders posted:Cops kill black kids left and right. The centre ones are alright.
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May 27, 2016 21:26
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Cerebral Bore posted:I agree that the cops are basically terrorists, yes. lol
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May 27, 2016 22:20
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I'm glad we had this talk about how street violence is bad.
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May 28, 2016 00:54
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Third one is forums poster bRianiac five being an insuffrable twat who should quit posting forever. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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GaussianCopula posted:It really doesn't, as this graph will show you: Did you notice that massive divergence between the Labour Productivity and the (stagnating) Real Wage indices? I'm also pretty sure you're not familiar with the content of the Finnish Competitiveness Pact actually includes. Working hours will be extended while pay rises will be limited, which will directly result in a fall in real purchasing power for workers. lollontee fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Way to obliterate your own argument though lmao
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GaussianCopula posted:His argument: Competitiveness can only be achieved by slashing worker compensation and this leads to a downward spiral in worker compensation That's a meaningless statement when real wages have remained stagnant for the past 8 years. You can select whatever point in the past before 2008 and say that real wages have increased. As for productivity, you are completely mistaken. If I work more hours for the same pay, in reality I'm getting paid less despite my real wages remaining constant. Do you think that the incoming French Labour reforms are going to increase worker benefits or something? Their aim is to decrease the cost of labour so that their employers can earn more. And no, labour productivity increases are not a separate discussion. If the value of work done increases but workers don't see an increase in their real wages, they are being more exploited. You can call that 'competetiveness' but it's not the workers who benefit from that. They are still being forced to compete in the value of their work with countries with more predatory labour practices with zero benefit to themselves.
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