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Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.

Jewel Repetition posted:

It's uh, very much in the bag and has been. That's why I don't follow it.

In the bag is the wrong choice of words - I guess there is still significant opportunity to influence the policy position of the democratic party by strong turnouts for Sanders. Hillary has already had to move a lot, and it's pretty clear if a stronger candidate than sanders (perhaps Elizabeth Warren) had run things may look very different.

So a Democratic party primary vote still has value, unless you don't really agree with Sanders, in which case tactically voting to try and generate a brokered convention in the republican party makes sense I guess.

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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Cthulhu Dreams posted:

In the bag is the wrong choice of words - I guess there is still significant opportunity to influence the policy position of the democratic party by strong turnouts for Sanders. Hillary has already had to move a lot, and it's pretty clear if a stronger candidate than sanders (perhaps Elizabeth Warren) had run things may look very different.

So a Democratic party primary vote still has value, unless you don't really agree with Sanders, in which case tactically voting to try and generate a brokered convention in the republican party makes sense I guess.

Oh, yeah, I agree then. It does have value no matter what his chances are.

unwantedplatypus
Sep 6, 2012
I'm just going to pre-empt discussion here. Anyone who points to the democratic primary polls is obtuse as gently caress and hasn't learned their lesson yet. The polls have underestimated both Hillary and Bernie at times, shut the gently caress up about them as definitive proof of the outcome.

Also, my opinion,: People who say Bernie doesn't stand a chance don't know jack poo poo about why he's had his current success. Were the same people saying he wouldn't be a challenger to Hillary back in october

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
The first polls close in just over an hour. :munch:

Gamma Nerd
May 14, 2012

unwantedplatypus posted:

I'm just going to pre-empt discussion here. Anyone who points to the democratic primary polls is obtuse as gently caress and hasn't learned their lesson yet. The polls have underestimated both Hillary and Bernie at times, shut the gently caress up about them as definitive proof of the outcome.

Also, my opinion,: People who say Bernie doesn't stand a chance don't know jack poo poo about why he's had his current success. Were the same people saying he wouldn't be a challenger to Hillary back in october

ure right, and cool

GrimGypsy
Mar 27, 2007

Florida's first 15 votes suggest a barnburner, surely this will not change.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
All others include: Skeletor, an empty chair, and migf.

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
Gotta vote for Florida Man

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
id vote for migf

SNAKES N CAKES
Sep 6, 2005

DAVID GAIDER
Lead Writer


Ooof!

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible
It's the end of the GOP as we know it, and I feel fine.

No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

Just voted. Why was Hillary the top candidate and Bernie the 4th?

Caithness
Nov 10, 2012

HEY!!!
YOU CAN SEE ME, CAN'T YOU? THEN WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ME!?
Were they perhaps in alphabetical order by last name?

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
In Illinois, the names go in the order the candidates arrive at the Election Board's office. There's usually a line at 5am on the first day to register.

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/709700917793267712

No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

Caithness posted:

Were they perhaps in alphabetical order by last name?

No. There are like 8 candidates after Bernie. O'Malley was one.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/709709700204466176

Trump!

No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

Here's the democratic ballot order in Missouri. Why is it this way?

Hillary Clinton
Henry Hewes
Roque “Rocky” De La Fuente
Bernie Sanders
Keith Judd
Willie L. Wilson
Martin J. O’Malley
John Wolfe
Jon Adams
(UNCOMMITTED)

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

unwantedplatypus posted:

I'm just going to pre-empt discussion here. Anyone who points to the democratic primary polls is obtuse as gently caress and hasn't learned their lesson yet. The polls have underestimated both Hillary and Bernie at times, shut the gently caress up about them as definitive proof of the outcome.

Also, my opinion,: People who say Bernie doesn't stand a chance don't know jack poo poo about why he's had his current success. Were the same people saying he wouldn't be a challenger to Hillary back in october

nah polls are still good to look at and ignoring them all because MI happened is dumb

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


No Butt Stuff posted:

Here's the democratic ballot order in Missouri. Why is it this way?

Hillary Clinton
Henry Hewes
Roque “Rocky” De La Fuente
Bernie Sanders
Keith Judd
Willie L. Wilson
Martin J. O’Malley
John Wolfe
Jon Adams
(UNCOMMITTED)

Most states do it in the order they registered to run. Bernie was first on the ballot in Arkansas.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Venom Snake posted:

nah polls are still good to look at and ignoring them all because MI happened is dumb

Also MI was probably wrong because of the likely voter screen. A standard question is "did you vote in the last competitive primary race?" however the last competitive primary race was the 2008 one where MI (and FL) awarded no delegates so tons of likely voters probably were removed from the polls. The remaining races (FL excepted) do not have that issue so the polling is less likely to be massively off.

Still could be off by as much as 5 points though as primaries are Weird.

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

Please somebody hold me close and tell me Trump is going to win big tonight. Please please please. I'm scared y'all.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Please somebody hold me close and tell me Trump is going to win big tonight. Please please please. I'm scared y'all.

it would be funnier if he lost tonight tbh

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Please somebody hold me close and tell me Trump is going to win big tonight. Please please please. I'm scared y'all.

He's won the Northern Marianas Islands. You know how the saying goes...

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010


dont they realize trump wants to send their jobs overseas?

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007



Make America Grate Again

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Voted this morning in Ohio, where voting matters. Feels good :smug:

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

dont they realize trump wants to send their jobs overseas?

lol

SNAKES N CAKES
Sep 6, 2005

DAVID GAIDER
Lead Writer

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Voted this morning in Ohio, where voting matters. Feels good :smug:

For Cruz or for Rubio?

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

No Butt Stuff posted:

Here's the democratic ballot order in Missouri. Why is it this way?

Hillary Clinton
Henry Hewes
Roque “Rocky” De La Fuente
Bernie Sanders
Keith Judd
Willie L. Wilson
Martin J. O’Malley
John Wolfe
Jon Adams
(UNCOMMITTED)

In Missouri, it's by drawing lots:

quote:

The names of the candidates shall appear in the order in which their request to be included on the presidential primary ballot was received in the office of the secretary of state, except that, in the case of candidates who file a request to be included on the presidential primary ballot with the secretary of state prior to 5:00 p.m. on the first day for filing, the secretary of state shall determine by random drawing the order in which such candidates’ names shall appear on the ballot. The drawing shall be conducted so that each candidate, or candidate’s representative, may draw a number at random at the time of filing.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

So goes the Northern Mariana Islands, so goes the nation.

#Trumpmentum

Xenophon
Jun 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer
my prediction is that Jewel Rep will make a perfectly fine thread and a bunch of do-nothing goons will whine about it

oh look truly I am a prophet come to reveal things unto man

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan
Trump wins in FL and NC by double digits.
Kasich wins in Ohio by around 3-4%
IL and MO will be closer, I wouldn't be surprised to see Ted Cruz eek out at least 1 win the other going to Trump. Both of those states seem midwesterny and folks enough (the non-Chicago parts) that Cruz will do well there.

Worst case scenario for Trump is he still extends his lead over Cruz, but might be denied getting to 1,237.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpaS2v-r7cE

Trumpenstaffel:
The Trumps are gonna have their day
Tonight.
The Trumps are gonna have their way
Tonight.
That Puerto Rican stumbled
No fight.
But Kasich wants to rumble
We'll rumble him right.

GOPe:
We're gonna hand him a surprise
Tonight.
We're gonna cut him down to size
Tonight.
We said okay no protests
No tricks.
But over in Ohio
We're ready to mix.
Tonight!

Trumpenstaffel:
We're gonna rock it tonight,
We're gonna lock it up and have us
A nom.

GOPe:
They're gonna get it tonight,
The more they build him up
The harder he'll fall.

Trumpenstaffel:
Well, they began it--!

GOPe:
Well, they began it--!

Both Gangs:
And we're the ones to stop 'em once and for all.
Tonight!

Ted Cruz:
Cruz's gonna get his votes
Tonight.
I'll have the voters see the truth
Tonight.
They want a right-wing leader
Poor dears.
Don't matter if he's slimy
As long as he's feared
Tonight!

Donald Trump:
Tonight, tonight
Won't be just any night
Tonight there will be no GOP
Tonight, tonight
I'll see my win tonight
And for me, I will be
Nominee.

Marco Rubio:
Today, the minutes feel like hours
The hours go so slowly,
And still the sky is light...
Oh moon, grow bright
And make this endless run, finally done!

Trumpenstaffel:
The Trumps are coming out on top
Tonight.
We're gonna watch that Kasich drop
Tonight!
That Ohioan punk'll go down!
And when he's sponsored Donald
We'll tear up the town!

Christie (to Carson):
We'll be in back of you boy!

Carson:
Right!

Christie:
You're gonna flatten him good.

Carson:
Right!

Marco Rubio:
Tonight there will be no GOP

Christie:
And then we'll have us a nom
Tonight.

Marco Rubio:
Tonight, tonight.

Kasich and GOPe:
We're gonna rock it tonight!

Marco Rubio:
I see my loss tonight.

Kasich and GOPe:
We're gonna jazz it tonight!

Ted Cruz:
My day tonight.
We're gonna win it tonight.

Donald Trump:
Today, the minutes seem like hours
The hours go so slowly.

Kasich and GOPe:
To stop them once and for all.

Christie and Trumpenstaffel:
To stop them once and for all.

Kasich and GOPe:
The money's gonna have their way.

Trumpenstaffel:
The Trumps are gonna have their day.

Kasich and GOPe:
We're gonna rock it tonight!

All:
Tonight!

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
Made the very inconvenient 45 second walk to my polling place to perform my civic duty. Not being a minority or living in a minority neighborhood has its advantages :smug:

Schnorkles
Apr 30, 2015

It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.
The thing about today that's different than the last few contests is that the only closed primary today is Florida. The rest are open or "semi-closed" and allow for unaffiliated voters to vote in whichever primary they choose. There are no caucauses today on the Republican side.

This is the format that has strongly favored Donald Trump. We have almost no polling out of Missouri and the Trump surge has been as big as the Cruz surge in Illinois over the last few days in all surveys except for the YouGov one [e: I kind of lied here. The Trump number in YouGov is his best number in Illinois too, it just shows that support might be consolidating around the two rather than anyone else]. The likelihood is that Trump does very very well tonight. An Ohio win is unlikely, but not outside of the realm of possibility.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

meant to post that in the main thread but oh well

Anchor Wanker
May 14, 2015
Bernin it up in Florida. Lol'd at O'Malley still being on the ballot.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

I appreciate this day when the nation's attention is turned to Florida, my lovely state. I look forward to November when it happens again and the nation's fate is decided by millions of old retired fucks and meth'd out rednecks.

I can't loving wait until Rubio loses by double digits and drops out. :frogout:

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Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

Trump wins FL, Trump wins OH, Trump wins IL, Trump wins NC

Cruz wins Mizzou

Rubio goes home to make guac with Jeb.
Kasich just sort of "aw shucks" himself into a Charlie Brown depression pose

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