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TelekineticBear!
Feb 19, 2009

MoPZiG posted:

Man U was the best club in the world at the time.

no they werent lol also massively downplaying the importance of players like Keane to the success of that midfield

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TelekineticBear!
Feb 19, 2009

Captain is a pretty meaningless term and people put way too much importance on it, do away with this bollocks of an appointed captain and just have it picked on the day

TelekineticBear!
Feb 19, 2009

Anyone saying Wilshere should be anywhere near the squad is to be frank a loving idiot, hes played one game of football all season, has got progressively shitter year after year because he peaked when he was 19 and has been embarrassing himself ever since. Hes a scummy entitled prick who has fluked his way into the position hes in and if he played for a real football team he would be warming the physio table for a lower half team and we'd thankfully never have to his name or say his terrible performances again

TelekineticBear!
Feb 19, 2009

ragle posted:

it's the opposite
class is permanent, a half-fit Wilshere is a better player than Drinkwater and typical England dross

class is permanent, but having a few good games 5 years ago isnt class, wilshere is the atypical arsenal youngster, aka, hes a loving shitter

TelekineticBear!
Feb 19, 2009

Rashford is really not that baffling an inclusion, hes young but he's come up with important goals in his brief senior career and actually seems to have a bit of drive and determination about him, he's also hardly going to play but when Sturridge eventually breaks in training another backup is important considering it looks like as many strikers on the pitch as possible seems to be the name of the game.

Wilshere on the other hand is likely going to be the first name on the teamsheet, and will be seen misplacing passes, spending 10 minutes on the floor every time his paper mache ankles are tapped by the smallest breeze, or arguing with referees. Imagine being Drinkwater and playing nearly every game in a title winning side, being key to their success and being further down the pecking order than that guy who had a good game against Barcelona 5 years ago, and has done absolutely nothing of note since.

Stones is also loving abysmal, it makes me wonder if we're so conditioned to shite defending in England that we have forgotten what a real defender looks like. Hes calamitous, brainless, and has every possible defending instinct that he might have ever had in his body taught out of him by Martinez.

TelekineticBear!
Feb 19, 2009

Hashtag Banterzone posted:

manager that knew how to play a 4-3-3

Not sure how Hodgson qualifies as this

TelekineticBear!
Feb 19, 2009

Drinkwater would usually be the typical player who does it for a team outside the established order and everyone says "Ah but he only did it to that level", see Grant Holt in 2012, but Drinkwater, actually won the loving league and in doing so showed more ability than Wilshere ever has. What do you have to do to get in the england set up? You win titles in one of the greatest upsets in history and dont get in despite being a key component of the team, it must be maddening for so many players and must disillusion them. But who gives a gently caress anyway as I supposed Drinkwater has got more premier league medals than Wilshere will ever win

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TelekineticBear!
Feb 19, 2009

Imagine not playing vardy lol hodgson is a clown

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