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 It's the 2016 F1 Season!I have put in as much effort into this OP as I deemed necessary - consequently it is a bit shorter than in previous years. I decided not to pick the "Racing" tag in case it caused false hope Last year was the second year in a row of Mercedes domination. This year will hopefully be a bit closer as Mercedes run into diminishing returns on car development and most teams will have one eye on the new rules coming next year. Rule ChangesThe only rule changes are some overcomplicated fiddles to the tyre rules which will be explained ad nauseum by your local F1 broadcaster, increased restrictions on in-race advice from the pit, and some overcomplicated fiddles to the qualifying rules which will be explained ad nauseum by your local F1 broadcaster. CalendarJust use this link (you can also use it to see other motorsport calendars) The slightly more effort bit 2015: 1st 703pts Stated Aim: Win both World Championships... again Actual Aim: Try to get Rosberg a World Championship  2015: 1st 381pts Like if: You are a glory hunter Hate if: You are racist/anti-British  2015: 2nd 322pts Like if: You find him sexually attractive Hate if: You find him sexually attractive  2015: 2nd 428pts Stated Aim: Win a World Championship Actual Aim: Finish a slightly closer second behind Mercedes  2015: 3rd 278pts Like if: You are literally Hitler Hate if: You are halfway sane  2015: 4th 150pts Like if: You like tedious old catchphrases Hate if: You find out how much he gets paid to be poo poo  2015: 3rd 257pts Stated Aim: Hold onto third place Actual Aim: Work out how to do corners  2015: 6th 121pts Like if: You are a paralympics enthusiast Hate if: You have something against Brazil  2015: 5th 136pts Like if: You like Finns who aren't pricks Hate if: You are Kimi fan #1  2015: 4th 187pts Stated Aim: Challenge for race wins Actual Aim: Find someone to blame for everything  2015: 8th 92pts Like if: You are a toothpaste manufacturer Hate if: You are Brainwrong  2015: 7th 95pts Like if: Putin tells you to Hate if: Putin tells you to  2015: 5th 136pts Stated Aim: Compete with Williams and Red Bull Actual Aim: Have a halfway solvent owner  2015: 10th 58pts Like if: You are a fan of endurance racing Hate if: You think he should've done something by now  2015: 9th 78pts Like if: You work for Pirelli's PR department Hate if: You expect anything from him in the first half of the season  2015: 6th 78pts (as Lotus) Stated Aim: Rebuild after Lotus ran out of money Actual Aim: Hope people forget how bad their engine is  2015: Twiddled thumbs at McLaren Like if: Danes are your favourite Norsemen Hate if: You are Ron Dennis  2015: Smashed GP2 at the 4th attempt Like if: You like Brits with only one kidney Hate if: You can't get past how silly his name is  2015: 7th 67pts Stated Aim: Solid points finishes Actual Aim: Train Verstappen to replace Kvyat  2015: 12th 49pts Like if: You are a frog and toad enthusiast Hate if: You can't be dealing with these whippersnappers  2015: 15th 18pts Like if: You liked his dad Hate if: You think F1 has enough Red Bull drivers  2015: 8th 36pts Stated Aim: Be better than last year Actual Aim: Find enough money to pay staff  2015: 18th 9pts Like if: Swedes are your favourite Norsemen Hate if: You are a poor and want to get into F1  2015: 13th 27pts Like if: You mistook him for Massa Hate if: You have to write about him for the OP  2015: 9th 27pts Stated Aim: Podium finishes by end of year... somehow Actual Aim: Be less embarassing than "drivers openly mock car"  2015: 17th 11pts Like if: You are into down on their luck Spaniards Hate if: You are afraid of zombies  2015: 16th 16pts Like if: You are into down on their luck Brits Hate if: You inexplicably still think he's poo poo  2015: 10th 0pts (as Marussia) Stated Aim: Be closer to the field than last year Actual Aim: Get Wehrlein F1 experience  2015: Won DTM Like if: You are employed by Mercedes Hate if: You are Nico Rosberg and you don't beat Lewis  2015: 4th in GP2 Like if: You like his money Hate if: You loathe Indonesians for some reason  2015: Did not exist Stated Aim: Points and turn a profit  Actual Aim: Advertise Haas products  2015: 11th 51pts (at Lotus) Like if: USA USA USA USA Hate if: You realise he is  2015: Did absolutely nothing Like if: USA USA USA USA Hate if: You realise he is Mexican (and poo poo) Team Changes:The Enstone Team Lotus are now back to being Renault with Renault engines instead of Mercedes Manor Marussia have been allowed to drop the Marussia bit and are now just Manor. They have Mercedes power now instead of Ferrari Red Bull managed to royally piss Renault off, but couldn't find another engine supplier and had to come crawling back. They will call their engine Tag Heuer for reasons Toro Rosso have ended up with last year's Ferrari engine because Renault weren't going to help out Red Bull too much Lastly, we welcome Haas! Hi Haas. Team Haas is being run from 4 different locations with nearly everything subcontracted out, which is a thing. They have Ferrari power Driver ChangesPastor Maldonado was dumped by Renault because his sponsors still haven't paid for last year. He's replaced by Kevin Magnussen, who was sacked as McLaren reserve driver by text on his birthday Romain Grosjean has moved from Renault to the new Haas team. He is replaced at Renault by 2015 GP2 champion Jolyon Palmer The other Haas driver is Esteban Gutierrez, he was so poo poo in 2014 he ended up in the Luca Badoer role at Ferrari Finally, Manor dumped all their drivers and signed Pascal Wehrlein, a Mercedes backed hopeful, and Rio Haryanto who has mad Indonesian bank Other stuff people will ask me to addIRC: irc.synirc.net/F1 2015-16 Off-season | 2015 Part 1|2015 Part 2 | 2014-15 Off-season | 2014 season | 2013-14 Off-season | 2013 season | 2012-13 Off season | 2012 season 2011-12 Off-season | 2011 Part 1|2011 Breakaway (stop talking about phones!)|2011 Part 2 | 2010-2011 Off Season | 2010 Part 1|2010 Part 2 | 2009-2010 Off season 2009 News and Views|2009 Part 1|2009 Breakaway Thread|2009 Part 2 | 2008-2009 Off season | 2008 Part 1|2008 Part 2|2008 Part 3 | 2007-2008 Off season 2007 Part 1|2007 Part 2|2007 Part 3 | 2006 Part 1|2006 Part 2|2006 Part 3|2006 Part 4|2006 Part 5 | 2005 Whole Season | 2005 Part WTF | 2004 Whole Season 
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Human Grand Prix posted:Rosberg is moonlighting at Toro Rosso now? 2 spergs spotted this in under a minute. Good work, already fixed.
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Mar 18, 2016 01:36
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I feel like "competitive" needs to be defined for that prediction to be anywhere near bold
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Mar 18, 2016 01:43
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keevo posted:Fighting Sauber or whoever is slightly faster than Manor. Sauber is a good benchmark, for sure
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Mar 18, 2016 01:47
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Diet Crack posted:I like how you omitted Vettel's stars I'm going to pretend it was intentional
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Mar 18, 2016 03:14
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DAAS Kapitalist posted:There is an arrest warrant out against Mallya for non-appearance in court in India to face his creditors, so Force India may not be long for this world. As I understand it he essentially took out a mortgage on the team with Diageo a few weeks back, so if he's declared insolvent they'd 'repossess' the team
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Mar 18, 2016 14:59
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Australia usually throws a curveball, and it is very poor at demonstrating relative pace anywhere else. I didn't see FP2, but weren't both sessions affected by rain as well?
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Mar 18, 2016 16:02
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They're running Red Bull levels of extreme rake now Prodromou's in charge, so they're going to bottom out a lot.
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Mar 18, 2016 16:15
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learnincurve posted:The Daily Mail in particular is out for blood after the taking a selfie while riding a motorbike thing. The Daily Mail in disliking non-whites shocker
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Mar 18, 2016 19:38
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Trust The Worst Thread to totally melt down after one qualifying session. They'll modify it to something less stupid, and that will be the end of it. We haven't even had one race yet ffs, maybe put your F1 obituaries on hold for a few weeks? If they don't want to go back to the previous quali system I propose: A single hour long session version of the shitshow we had this morning, which would solve a lot of the problems. 22 minutes to set a decent lap, then eliminations every 2 minutes until there's two cars left to battle it out. The eliminations are slightly less rapid fire so there's a bit more time to do an outlap if you're in the danger zone. Teams now have multiple sets of tyres to use over the whole hour so the quick teams don't use theirs up early and can still compete for pole at the end. Also you can start the race on whatever the hell tyres you like.
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Mar 19, 2016 15:30
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1500quidporsche posted:I'd also like to see it as I instantly fell asleep as soon as Mercedes had 1 second over the ferrari.. Vettel's quali time was only .3s slower than Hamilton's and bacony indications from practice are they have better race pace than quali pace. But yeah, it's all over after one quali session and Merc cruise to another two titles... We're also not talking about the real story in quali: namely Toro Rosso beating Red Bull and only being .5s slower than Ferrari with last year's engine.
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Mar 19, 2016 15:33
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ukle posted:Vettels Q3 time is almost .9s slower than Hamilton's I brained bad and read Nico's time. Either way, Ferrari are expected to have better race pace than their quali pace. The driving force behind the changes isn't TV viewership, it's track promoters failing to sell tickets because the prices are insane.
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Mar 19, 2016 15:47
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pik_d posted:Why was the track empty for four minutes? Why didn't Nico go out and try to get pole? They ran out of fresh tyres/ enough time to put new sets on for another run
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Mar 19, 2016 16:26
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pik_d posted:Was that a result of the qualifying format, or allowing drivers/teams to make their own choices for how many tires of each compound they bring? More the former than the latter. Breakdown of the problems with this morning's quali:
These can only be fixed by having more tyres available
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Mar 19, 2016 16:47
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We'll end up with a Saturday sprint race to determine the grid for Sunday I reckon
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Mar 19, 2016 17:47
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daslog posted:Line them up in reverse order of championship points. 5 laps, how they finish determines the starting grid. Make it 100km, i.e. a third of race distance ~30 mins and have DRS available on lap 2
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Mar 19, 2016 17:57
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El Hefe posted:That looks better and it'd help with the kind of debris that left Massa even more retarded They already fixed what hurt Massa by strengthening the visor. Red Bull's concept looks a bit better, but it's easy to mock up something that looks nice. Let's see how it looks when they've actually run it through the tests the FIA needs it to pass. E: also what happens when it's wet/dirty, do they install wipers? Tsaedje fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Mar 19, 2016 |
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Mar 19, 2016 18:03
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The only reason it is split into 3 sessions is because the previous attempt to make qualifying interesting had three sessions.
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Mar 19, 2016 19:25
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Terminus Est posted:In my manic late night googling looking for trap speeds in Melbourne, I failed. Anyone got a handy link for who the slowest fuckers are? http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-championship/season-2016/event-timing-information-5 Go hog wild
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Mar 20, 2016 01:03
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Haas did well, but you're kidding yourself if you think they'd've got the result without the free pit stop during the red flag. Grosjean was pretty level headed with it even with his obvious high from the result. It's a good morale boost for the team to score points so early but they lucked into them a little bit and shouldn't expect to finish 6th without similar luck. Good race and nice to see not only that the whole field seems closer together but that three tyre compounds actually did a thing.
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Mar 20, 2016 09:09
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Alain Post posted:They had race pace to match the cars behind him, and were only a few tenths behind the Williams. Remember that they got hosed in qualifying, too. Add 20s for a pit stop and Grosjean's down in 11-13th It's still a very impressive result and the midfield is clearly very competitive which is a good thing.
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Mar 20, 2016 09:18
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learnincurve posted:It's a mean miserly person who is begrudging Haas these points. I don't begrudge them at all, it's great! E: Oops, I meant "loving Forumla One's just a lovely procession with Mercedes winning everything, I'd rather watch a 12 hour endurance race" Tsaedje fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Mar 20, 2016 |
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Mar 20, 2016 09:21
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And while I'm at it, gently caress safety devices, Alonso should've just manned up and survived that crash by himself
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Mar 20, 2016 09:25
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Perez, Button and Wehrlein all got hosed by the red flag. It happens.
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Mar 20, 2016 09:26
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Your best place for the really spergy data is actually the FIA website. It's buried behind a few links but you can get all the press releases, timing data, even trackside press department phone numbers if you want them http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-championship/season-2016/event-timing-information-5 E: but keep it on the down-low so they don't hide it away
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Mar 20, 2016 21:37
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I think the alarm for Lewis was to do with the safety car coming in, possibly a reminder to turn the safety car lap delta off. The engineer is right that he's not allowed to say how to do that, but I think he was also deliberately making a point about the silliness of it by phrasing it that way.
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Mar 21, 2016 14:28
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Payndz posted:Halo/canopy/nothing, V6/8/10/12, who gives a crap? F1 is about a bunch of middle-aged autists, con artists and failed drivers stabbing each other in the back while an ancient little goblin watches and laughs, and anything else that happens is a mere sideshow. Where were you when I needed a thread title?
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Mar 21, 2016 22:12
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George Zimmer posted:I might be extremely stupid, but with the seemingly chaotic security situation in Europe, do you guys think any European rounds would be affected in some way? I'm giving a large window for what "affected" could mean. The first European round is 2 months away. I'd imagine there will be higher security, but I can't see any races being cancelled. F1 isn't important enough to be a target, honestly.
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Mar 22, 2016 16:29
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They've had clutch control for the start on paddles for a few seasons now. What's different this season is they are restricted to it being a single paddle. Previously they had a sort of staged clutch. Next season the clutch will be a standardised FIA part.
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Mar 23, 2016 15:18
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http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/03/23/2016-australian-grand-prix-team-radio-transcript-2/ Here's the released radio transcripts from the race. Max is a total baby.
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Mar 23, 2016 15:25
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Bernie considers F1 races to be a business networking opportunity with some pesky motorsport attached. Any old tracks are told their 'facilities aren't up to standards' and to spend money to improve them or he'll take their race elsewhere. Also you're competing with oil barons with bottomless pockets who will pay absurd amounts for the privilege of hosting the privileged, so that's the new market rate for hosting a race, pay up or get lost.
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Mar 26, 2016 17:06
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F1 isn't going to collapse, it's just going to keep sliding towards just being a money-making business networking opportunity and away from being affordable entertainment for the minority that is long term fans of the sport. It would just be nice if people who have the power to affect change in the way decisions are made would be a little less greedy, but it seems that's unlikely. Bernie saved the sport back in the day, but he's old enough to not give a poo poo about short term losses rebuilding the sport sensibly for the next generation in order to increase the fanbase and make more money down the line because he'll probably be dead by then.
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Mar 26, 2016 23:18
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I sure am looking forward to the New York/New Jersey GP that is definitely happening
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Mar 28, 2016 17:41
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MattD1zzl3 posted:FTFY and Agreed Just pointing out that Bernie has 'agreed a contract' for a race to boot a European race off the calendar before. I'm going to go ahead and not believe this one until I see it.
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Mar 28, 2016 18:37
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I'd sure as hell rather go to new jersey than texas.
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Magny-Cours is also a loving terrible track E: I think it was Spa he was threatening to boot last time Bernie 'signed a contract' for a second US race Tsaedje fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Mar 28, 2016 |
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Mar 28, 2016 19:17
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Pretty much, except it seems the teams would rather have totally broken quali than 'compromise' and have any of Bernie's ideas this time. Reminder that an actual Bernie tactic when losing an argument is to 'accidentally' spill a drink as a distraction.
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Mar 28, 2016 19:56
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learnincurve posted:Have you noticed that whenever he is being interviewed by Sky one of the table legs goes part way through? No, because I watch neither Bernie interviews nor Sky interviews
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Mar 28, 2016 20:03
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Yeah, as wicka said halfway up this page it's no drinking land so they've censored Chandon. Williams seem to be ok running Martini and Force India still have Kingfisher beer so I dunno what's up really.
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Apr 1, 2016 14:55
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1500quidporsche posted:Missed wicka's post. Mansour Ojjeh isn't a prince and he's French/Saudi/Luxembourgish (for tax purposes). He does own 25% of McLaren though.
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Apr 1, 2016 15:05
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Just looked up the company registry and Bahrain Mumtalakat Holding Company has 50% Ron has 25% and Ojjeh has 25%
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Apr 1, 2016 15:08
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