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I love the scene in Canadian Bacon where Rip Torn's character is intoning "dead... dead... dead... also dead... oh, he's still alive! ...and making license plates in federal prison." as he thumbs through a slideshow of potential
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Mar 22, 2016 18:31
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The Whole Internet posted:Charlie Wilson's War extremely good
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Mar 22, 2016 19:08
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Good Night and Good Luck is worth watching if only for the guy who plays Murrow, though. I liked in the 1970s, and haven't seen since, The Candidate, starring a young and beautiful Robert Redford who campaigns successfully because he is a young and beautiful Robert Redford. He's a confused blank slate. Tenthing the recommendation for In The Loop, which is about the inner workings of decision-making (hint: it's not about ethical principles). Bob Roberts, about a budding demagogue who succeeds by being aw-shucks folksy. Doctor Strangelove, because Doctor Strangelove.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:26
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the battle of algiers. cheers. edit: i see it's already been posted. come and see. che. the baader-meinhof complex. la chinoise. the wind that shakes the barley. spanish earth. the organizer. memories of underdevelopment. hearts and minds. also every film is about politics on some level or another R. Guyovich has issued a correction as of 20:39 on Mar 22, 2016 |
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Mar 22, 2016 20:29
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Charlie Wilson's War is a good movie, I don't know about the substance of its actual commentary on politics, I wouldn't put much stock in it, but if you're like a cynical liberal, it will be enjoyable as gently caress. But again, it's not smart for its own sake, it's not educating, it's an entertainment film. Network some of these older movies have some very clear points to make about politics, and media, and Charlie Wilson's War is basically far too cynical to be bothered with that. The movie basically indulges and celebrates itself and the events it ostensibly covers.
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Mar 22, 2016 20:52
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hemophilia posted:Charlie Wilson's War is a good movie, I don't know about the substance of its actual commentary on politics, I wouldn't put much stock in it, but if you're like a cynical liberal, it will be enjoyable as gently caress. But again, it's not smart for its own sake, it's not educating, it's an entertainment film. Boosted commentary... good?
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Mar 22, 2016 20:54
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I forgot about Che. It has some amazing cinematography and the guerrilla war scenes own.
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Mar 22, 2016 21:08
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hemophilia posted:Charlie Wilson's War is a good movie, I don't know about the substance of its actual commentary on politics, I wouldn't put much stock in it, but if you're like a cynical liberal, it will be enjoyable as gently caress. But again, it's not smart for its own sake, it's not educating, it's an entertainment film. so whats your take on that Ned Beatty scene in Network? does it make you go "hell yeah!"?
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Mar 22, 2016 21:28
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babypolis posted:so whats your take on that Ned Beatty scene in Network? does it make you go "hell yeah!"? It makes me want to pass mental healthcare reform.
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Mar 22, 2016 23:55
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I just watched All the King's Men and it sure feels like the official movie of this forum.
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Mar 23, 2016 03:40
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You want some good political movies? The Constant Gardener Blood Diamond Waltz With Bashir and for a taste of what life would be like should Sanders win the election, Logan's Run
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Mar 23, 2016 03:51
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waltz with bashir is really fuckin good
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Mar 23, 2016 17:46
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Yeah, Waltz with Bashir was pretty good. Also, while not really a political movie, White House Down holds a soft spot in my heart since its a movie that features actual right wing American terrorists, which I find is pretty rare.
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Mar 23, 2016 18:45
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blackguy32 posted:Yeah, Waltz with Bashir was pretty good. Also, while not really a political movie, White House Down holds a soft spot in my heart since its a movie that features actual right wing American terrorists, which I find is pretty rare. white house down rules and is a good palate cleanser after the onslaught of anti-dprk propaganda nonsense like red dawn, olympus has fallen, the interview, etc. as if they would ever invade or actually attack the us
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Mar 23, 2016 20:04
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The fact that the producers of the Red Dawn remake decided to switch the antagonist from America to North Korea because they didn't dare offend the Chinese government is hilarious and says a lot about the extent to which American patriotism is just something people in Washington and Hollywood package and sell to flyover states whose populations' are viewed with open contempt.
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Mar 23, 2016 20:52
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Homework Explainer posted:white house down rules and is a good palate cleanser after the onslaught of anti-dprk propaganda nonsense like red dawn, olympus has fallen, the interview, etc. as if they would ever invade or actually attack the us Dammit, I am going to watch that movie again. I loving love that movie, and its not even really that good.
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Mar 23, 2016 21:05
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Helsing posted:The fact that the producers of the Red Dawn remake decided to switch the antagonist from America to North Korea because they didn't dare offend the Chinese government is hilarious and says a lot about the extent to which American patriotism is just something people in Washington and Hollywood package and sell to flyover states whose populations' are viewed with open contempt. it's just profit-seeking. why alienate a potential customer base needlessly? i mean let's be clear the notion of china invading the US is nearly as fantastical anyway. it's not like there was much artistic integrity there to begin with that was compromised.
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Mar 23, 2016 23:16
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i mean poo poo the original Red Dawn still had, what, two? minutes of title cards just to set up the ludicrous scenario under which soviet and cuban forces somehow pulled off an invasion, and even with all those gimmies the scenario would have been too implausible even for a Tom Clancy novel. invading the US was wildly impossible even for the Soviet loving Union
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Mar 23, 2016 23:20
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blackguy32 posted:Yeah, Waltz with Bashir was pretty good. Also, while not really a political movie, White House Down holds a soft spot in my heart since its a movie that features actual right wing American terrorists, which I find is pretty rare. Only other one I can think of is The Rock.
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Mar 23, 2016 23:33
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i mean poo poo the original Red Dawn still had, what, two? minutes of title cards just to set up the ludicrous scenario under which soviet and cuban forces somehow pulled off an invasion, and even with all those gimmies the scenario would have been too implausible even for a Tom Clancy novel. invading the US was wildly impossible even for the Soviet loving Union The original Red Dawn seemed to be motivated by genuine wingnut passion, which is how you get all those awesome moments like the camera panning from a dead patriot to the anti-gun control bumper sticker on someone's car, or the American child soldiers executing their collaborationist classmate. The remake appears to have had about as much wingnuttery behind it as a 'Support Our Troops" T-shirt made in Vietnam.
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Mar 23, 2016 23:53
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I haven't seen the remake but the original felt like it was meant to be a bit more complex towards the end with the Cuban guy being a bit sympathetic and I also felt like we were supposed to be v a bit unsympathetic to the wolverines after they execute their classmate. But I've only seen it once and I ultimately thought it was terrible so what do I know.
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Mar 24, 2016 00:13
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Red Dawn was meant to help Americans sympathize with the Mujaheddin by imagining themselves as guerrilla warriors fighting a Soviet Occupation. For an alternate take check out the Russian film '9th Company' - besides some movies already recommended here I'd also add Charlie Chaplin's "Modern Times" and "The Great Dictator". Besides the excellent fictional work of Network, Manchurian Candidate, and Dr. Strangelove, I'll add this collection of nonfiction films
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Mar 24, 2016 00:15
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Helical Nightmares posted:Only other one I can think of is The Rock. Airforce One "Get off of my plane." - Han Solo
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Mar 24, 2016 00:35
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Since we're talking about 80s Cold War cinema, I am fascinated with Rocky IV and how Drago is the ideal of the quantified body and how Americans are not machines like those Soviets. And yet, here we are with Fitbits that do what? Quantify our bodies. Though that whole "Soviets are machines" thing gets complicated in the last fight when Rocky's corner-man says "HE'S NOT A MACHINE, HE'S A MAN." and Drago says that Rocky "is like iron." Sprinkle something about the Futurist Manifesto in there and you've got a stew going.
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Mar 24, 2016 01:21
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Fidel Castronaut posted:Since we're talking about 80s Cold War cinema, I am fascinated with Rocky IV and how Drago is the ideal of the quantified body and how Americans are not machines like those Soviets. And yet, here we are with Fitbits that do what? Quantify our bodies. Though that whole "Soviets are machines" thing gets complicated in the last fight when Rocky's corner-man says "HE'S NOT A MACHINE, HE'S A MAN." and Drago says that Rocky "is like iron." Of course everyone has seen 'The Pervert's Guide to Ideology'? And of course the films of Neil Breen? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_eSGhRCdgo
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Mar 24, 2016 01:33
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It's not easy being Zizek because a lot of regular folks think he's just nonsense "theory" and a lot of academics think his theory isn't sophisticated enough. I still like the guy, though. I mean, how can you not like a guy who makes a persuasive argument for the ideology of toilets?
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Mar 24, 2016 02:01
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Fidel Castronaut posted:It's not easy being Zizek because a lot of regular folks think he's just nonsense "theory" and a lot of academics think his theory isn't sophisticated enough. Zizek is pretty fun. The Pervert's Guide movies own.
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Mar 24, 2016 02:29
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My Imaginary GF posted:Airforce One ...I haven't seen it 
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Mar 24, 2016 03:05
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I say he did it, on porpoise.
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Mar 24, 2016 03:16
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If politics to you is an unrepentant rear end in a top hat there's Unknown Known, by the same guy who did Fog of War (Documentaries on Rumsfeld and McNamara, respectively, only McNamara has a soul and Rumsfeld doesn't) If politics is tort-reform go watch Hot Coffee. HootTheOwl has issued a correction as of 03:43 on Mar 24, 2016 |
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Mar 24, 2016 03:24
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Fog of War is great and Unknown Known is absolutely infuriating.
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Mar 24, 2016 03:35
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Bobby wasn't a bad movie. A decent fictional film that covers people around Bobby Kennedy but never really actually features Bobby Kennedy. Munich started off pretty good, but I felt it started losing its focus towards the end. The scene where he is having sex with his wife and envisioning all of the violence he has seen was comically bad. But it did keep my interest.
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Mar 24, 2016 03:45
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Thank You For Smoking is a funny and good politics movie.
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Mar 24, 2016 03:53
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Homework Explainer posted:come and see. This is one of the most intense movies I've ever seen. Like most Soviet films this is on YouTube. Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDq9fL--Avw Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYIaDYRipoM
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Mar 24, 2016 17:32
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Fog of War is great and Unknown Known is absolutely infuriating. The Fog of War is just so enormously watchable. I can watch it again and again. I remember reading that interviewing Donald Rumsfeld was perhaps the single most disturbing experience of Errol Morris's career to date. An absolute absence of contrition or self-doubt.
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Mar 24, 2016 18:10
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Atrocious Joe posted:This is one of the most intense movies I've ever seen. I liked it, but... I wish it showed nazis burning alive at the end.
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Mar 24, 2016 20:13
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My Imaginary GF posted:I wish it showed nazis burning alive. this is my complaint with most movies
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tell us what you think of the battle of algiers, opHomework Explainer posted:edit: i see it's already been posted. come and see. che. the baader-meinhof complex. la chinoise. the wind that shakes the barley. spanish earth. the organizer. memories of underdevelopment. hearts and minds. thank you. i put many of your recommendations on my to-watch list. Homework Explainer posted:also every film is about politics on some level or another yupp. when people think of "politics" they think of electoral politics and maybe political social movements. but every inch of our lives and world is shaped by power dynamics. Atrocious Joe posted:This is one of the most intense movies I've ever seen. i've been putting off watching Come and See because I'm afraid of what i'll see... i need to wait for the right time to come when i can handle it.... My Imaginary GF posted:I liked it, but... I wish it showed nazis burning alive at the end. my god, Inglourious Basterds is such an immensely satisfying film. more movies should satisfy historical-political fantasies like that. i'm reminded of the TV series Spartacus which I cannot recommend enough to all who like vengeful desires fulfilled.
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Speaking of Nazis I like the HBO movie Conspiracy, about the meeting that decided the plan for the final solution. There was every kind of politician and military officer there all trying to figure out what the hell is going on between the ears of the others. The best part was when one of the field commanders stood up and said "just so we're on the same page, according to you guys, when I took a bunch of people and shot them in the head I was 'evacuating' them, right?" Samurai Sanders has issued a correction as of 02:09 on Mar 25, 2016 |
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