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Wanderer posted:He's been writing more "normal" gay relationships into his work since maybe 2004. For example, the "Streets of Laredo" arc in Marvel Knights Punisher features a decent, heroic gay character, and there's a whole arc in the last "Kev" book he did for Wildstorm about the main character coming to terms with his homophobia. Vague twitter posts are vague twitter posts and not proof of anything. I don't know anything about Edmondson and he doesn't sound likeable but unless someone says something definitive, even if only anonymously, then no decisions or judgements can be made about the man.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 05:38 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 13:18 |
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Lurdiak posted:You don't get to dictate that. I'm not stopping you from doing anything, I'm just pointing out that without knowing what he might be guilty of, it's impossible to know what we're even judging. That article doesn't actually say anything about what he's done except a one line allusion to sexual harassment. The rest is frustrated twitter rants that don't/can't actually say anything. What is the guy accused of besides writing racist comics? I still don't know.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 05:48 |
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Blockhouse posted:I'm not even sure what there has to be to decry him except "he wrote racist comics and is probably a racist" Exactly. Dude sounds awful enough as-is.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 05:58 |
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Fsmhunk posted:Why is Kitty Pryde so omnipresent in Marvel books? I only liked her in Excalibur and Doop. I think it's because lots of current comic book writers read X-Men as teenagers and now they can finally act out the fanfiction they wrote way back then. And also they all want to bang Kitty. She was like the sex symbol for an entire adolescent generation or some poo poo.
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2016 02:00 |
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Lurdiak posted:High concept refers to things you can describe the hook of easily and simply. Off-duty cop fights terrorists is high concept. Whatever was going on in Star Trek The Motion Picture isn't. This...is so simple, why can't other people teach it this simply?
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2016 23:18 |
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Has anyone said why the Mists were released or is that part of the mystery?
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# ¿ May 5, 2016 16:06 |
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I've heard good things about Howard the Duck.
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# ¿ May 14, 2016 16:06 |
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JoshTheStampede posted:Or the other Avengers, or the X-Avengers, or the space Avengers, or To be fair, the Avengers don't do much about meth cooks.
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# ¿ May 17, 2016 03:31 |
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Brocktoon posted:The rumors I heard, complete with grain of salt, is the final page is Cap saying 'Hail Hydra!' and that he's been a Hydra agent since being brought into the organization as a child by his mother. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA WOW okay.
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# ¿ May 24, 2016 19:16 |
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team overhead smash posted:To make it even better, when they hear in a few months time that Captain America isn't a Nazi, they'll think their outrage made the writers change their mind rather than that being the plan all along. They sure showed those liberal elitist types over at Marvel! Tumblr is already all over this.
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# ¿ May 25, 2016 22:34 |
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I think it's a dumb idea to tamper with Cap like this and I wish outrage culture wasn't buying into this so completely but I also wish that these creative types would stop throwing bait out for outrage culture to latch on to.
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# ¿ May 25, 2016 22:36 |
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Lurdiak posted:I really don't think this is an attempt to "bait outrage culture" so much as it is supposed to be a shocking mystery kicking off a story arc. Yeah but I do think that the furor being generated by this was entirely predictable and should have been avoided. The internet is unpleasant enough without adding this crap to it. What a headache.
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# ¿ May 25, 2016 22:47 |
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X-O posted:Yes they should think about the internet first and abandon any stories that crazies online might not take two seconds to have a rational thought about. That would be the best idea. You put it into words, thank you
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# ¿ May 25, 2016 22:51 |
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Toxxupation posted:I have to say I'm not crazy about the Steve Rogers reveal on its face (although yeah it's almost certainly a Kobik retcon of his life, and I have faith in Spencer to pull it out) but, man, creators should feel free to fail and certainly shouldn't write stories in fear of how people who don't read comics will react. This line of thinking is really toxic to the state of the industry at large. I actually just got back from the comic book shop and picking up the #1 just so I can see what happens. I fully believe in the freedom of creativity, I'm just really tired of this cycle of [thing happens] [Internet pretends to be outraged] [I have several hundred new people to block online.] [repeat ad infinitum] I guess I wish there was a way around the internet and that people could make the things they want without thousands of people yelling at them. Oh well, Marvel will publish it anyway so no one is losing.
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# ¿ May 26, 2016 00:18 |
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Norns posted:No. This is dangerous thinking. If you think I want to burn Captain America books then I'm sorry to disappoint, I support Marvel's decision to publish what they want. I still think it's a foolish story direction.
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# ¿ May 26, 2016 03:26 |
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Nobby posted:What about Hercules? Everyone made jokes about it for years. Little did they know...
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# ¿ May 27, 2016 06:12 |
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Rhyno posted:No seriously, why is Spider-man about to THWIP himself in the face on the cover of CW2 #1? Good bye cruel earth?
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2016 00:04 |
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I'm in the minority but I didn't enjoy Bendis's Daredevil run. I understand it was iconic for the time but there's just so many speech bubbles that I can't see Maleev's art which means half the story is obscured. Brubaker flows at a much quicker and savage pace, I like his run a lot more. Nocenti is the top of the DD crop for me though, it's actually about Hell's Kitchen instead of ninjas
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2016 01:33 |
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NikkolasKing posted:Claremont wrote X-Men The End, right? As far as I can tell they both had strong opening runs and then slowly petered out the longer they stayed with the run. They also both have some weird fetishes that people latch on to as a way to criticize them. I don't know if I'd personally call Claremont "good" but he does have the most influence over the X-Men and almost twenty years of storytelling is hard to reverse if you want to do something different.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2016 22:23 |
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Nilbop posted:Is Gwenpool worth picking up? Part of me is wary of it being a cynical push for Marvel to have a Harley Quinn like character. So far she's nothing like Harley. She's a comic book fan that's trying to wade through the Marvel universe with a sense of humor and a secret arsenal of lore.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2016 23:24 |
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"The wrong kind of people want this therefore it's bad" is a pretty bad argument against making any creative decision. "This is being done in bad faith" is also a bad argument because it's based off ephemeral perception and personal bias instead of reasoning. I can understand people not wanting Stucky, I don't really enjoy Stucky either but the "but it's fanfiction and that's terrible" is a stupid argument. This is comics. Comics are now run by fans and written by fans who have their fanfiction officially sanctioned. I give it it 5 more years before someone pitches their slash idea to someone on editorial and they publish it. And anyone who wants to complain about it had also better be ready to justify other fanfiction decisions made by fan-employees, like anything involving Kitty Pryde, ever. "This will legitimize the slash fangirls!" Well Jesus, so what? It's not like that would be the stupidest decision Marvel's ever made.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2016 22:53 |
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Trast posted:Yes it would. That kind of thinking spawned Twilight and we all saw how that ended. Unfortunately Twilight was pretty much original. No editorial board to convince that "hey maybe making some of these characters gay/bi would be cool and good?" I mean they did it with Ice Man already.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2016 23:24 |
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Is the sexism against FemThor realistic sexism or is it laughably farcical sexism that the writers insert in order for FemThor to have a strawman to destroy? (Thus ensuring that these comic book writers can say " I'm a feminist, just look at my Thor comics " and get Progressive Points.) That's partly why I've avoided the FemThor comics. Having smug men trying to show off what great feminists they are with badly written sexism is really grating, especially since I am supposedly their target audience as a Woman Who Reads Comics. I hate being talked down to.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 19:18 |
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Lurdiak posted:First of all, calling her FemThor is making you sound like a tool. To answer your actual stupid loaded question, the sexism she faces is about 50% less vile and overt than the sexism that the internet vomited forth when the character was initially revealed, so if anything it's way too subtle and light-handed. Okay, but this doesn't really answer my question. I don't care what the internet said about FemThor, I care about what the writers are saying about FemThor. Toxxupation posted:Thor barely ever addresses sexism overtly outside the first issue where it's a bit heavy handed as all hell but necessary work Aaron does to establish the new status quo. Odin's character seems to be "be as dickish as possible no matter what" so this makes sense If it's only the first issue (or the first few) than that sounds tolerable.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 19:26 |
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Trast posted:Is the general accepted way to identify the characters who have been or are Thor right now to call Jane Foster "Thor" and the asgardian formerly known as Thor "Odinson?" I imagine a lot of people call her FemThor because of the video game habit like referring to the Mass Effect protagonist FemShep and DudeShep. That's certainly why I do it. It's an easy shorthand. WickedHate posted:To be fair, that relationship could work, but it's rarely written well. Especially in the Harley ongoing, which was just incredibly dumb and cringy while trying to "fix" the issue. I'm fine with sexists getting told to gently caress off, I just want it done well and in a un-terrible fashion. Using internet memes for dialogue (usually as a way to be "hip") is pretty lame, and I'm not interested in seeing internet drama recreated in brightly colored funnybooks, mostly because internet drama consists of several different sides jerking each other off. That's tiresome. Sexism from men is something I face in everyday life. If it's done in a heavy handed fashion in fiction than that's not enjoyable, it's just eye-rolly.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 19:43 |
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WickedHate posted:I don't know how organic it can be, or if anything like that can really be introduced without setting off alarm bells for being forced. An rear end in a top hat was an rear end in a top hat for a few pages and got punched out, because he is a super villain. PaybackJack posted:To be honest it's pretty heavy handed and clearly meant as the writer's rebuttal to the grumpy MRA garbage that gets spewed on the internet. I didn't mind it so much because it's a panel here and there...I guess it makes for good troll bait on Tumblr or whatever the anti-feminist crowd is posting on these days. It definitely didn't detract from the overall experience of the comic though. That's what I wondered. Well, so long as it works for other people I guess.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 21:31 |
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Iron Maiden. Even has the classic rock tie-in with the movies.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2016 23:13 |
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bobkatt013 posted:So something that Red Skull has been trying to do to Steve since the cosmic cube has been introduced? That doesn't make it any less dumb, it just means it's been a consistent plot point.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2016 19:52 |
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X-O posted:Here's the first look at Riri's Iron Man armor. Stylish, I like it.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2016 01:05 |
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah, Bendis always goes "I DON'T GIVE A gently caress!" and writes whatever he wants because he's totally trying to gently caress over other writers! The first Civil War taught me that consistency between concurrent runs is a pretty dream but doesn't happen.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2016 05:55 |
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Toxxupation posted:Actually ironically Pak's feels most of a piece with the event itself so far of all the ongoings that have tie-ins, and considering I've read nearly all of them there's no real ongoings that have tie-ins that feel wildly inconsistent, and certainly nowhere near to the level of CWI. Also in general the CWII tie-ins have been pretty good so far across all ongoings except for, ironically, invincible Iron Man's road to civil war issues (which just feel really superfluous if giving decent context to Tony's motivations going into the event) The only CW2 tie in I've read so far is the Spider Woman issue. It was okay. I've been pretty happy to ignore the event otherwise since it features a bunch of characters I don't care about. Ironically I'm looking forward to the Daredevil tie-in with Age of Apocalypse because it amuses me how his interaction with the X-Men is always so limited and yet he keeps getting eaten by their shenanigans. I kind of hope that Marvel never changes that.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2016 08:13 |
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TwoPair posted:Okay, I just finished reading the issue so I'll revise the post appropriately then: "This story has been vetted by layers and layers of It's frustrating to see experienced story tellers make mistakes like this but that's also the nature of events. Events poo poo on the characters you love, they mess up a bunch of storylines for the sake of badly written morality plays, the tie-ins are at best mediocre, and the best thing we can hope for is that it all blows over soon. In other words I'm kinda with you but there's not a lot we can do about it. ☹️
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2016 00:40 |
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Aphrodite posted:This doesn't make any sense in the context of story planning. I think it makes sense that editors will support each others' decisions and story ideas because that's what they want to see happen on the page, and not necessarily because it makes sense plot-wise and/or has consistent characterization for individual characters and stories. When I read AvX, it made very little sense, but it got published because that's what the editors wanted to see (for various economic reasons I'm sure). I'm not really trying to drag Marvel editorial, I'm just pointing out that they have preferences and weaknesses that result in weirdness like with Bruce Banner.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2016 01:21 |
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Isn't the deal with the Inhumans that they've recently overthrown a crazy dictator king and now he lives in a casino and the society is trying to make new leadership? That doesn't sound like a healthy society to be joining. I'd rather chill in my regular life occasionally zapping my toaster with lightning than join my komrades in the Revolution.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2016 01:53 |
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Mr. Maltose posted:I will never not joke about the time Dan insisted that Squirrel Girl was bad as a calculated move by marvel to ruin the trend of books being more than white dudes punching white dudes. Repeatedly. Over several days. Dan Slott? What happened?
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2016 19:25 |
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Is The Accused the one with Matt and Clint? I read that one and really liked it, it's great to see Matt doing court room stuff.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 16:11 |
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I'm glad I don't follow Bendis as a writer, he engenders a lot of frustration.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2016 05:12 |
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Toxxupation posted:I'm willing to bet an insanely large amount of money that the only reason Hydra Cap blew up into a thing (that, it must be noted, quickly blew over because nobody reads comics any more) was because 1) news stories could summarize the events of Captain America: Steve Rogers 1 with a single image that communicated exactly what happened that itself became memetic and 2) Chris Evans tweeted about it. I'm not joking, I really don't think it had anything to do with Steve Rogers being the "real" Captain America or whatever for comics fans because comics fans are a minority of consumers, it was a story that told itself via a single image helped along by a huge movie star commenting on it. If they wanted to expand the comic book audience though they would break out of the Diamond distributor model and start selling in common spaces again. (This is completely possible now that Marvel has Disney as muscle.) Their diversification is cool, and I love it, but it would be even cooler if more people could buy comics in person at their convenience.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2016 22:45 |
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So what's the event after Civil War 2: War Harder going to be?
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2016 04:01 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 13:18 |
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SynthOrange posted:Yeah but then we still end up with a stupid situation for the whole storyline. Do nothing? Do anything? gently caress there's no resolution to this except Ulysses blowing out his own brains Bendis chooses the Destroy ending, condemning the Marvel universe to the return of the synthetic threat in the future
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2016 13:49 |