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MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Due to Season 2 of Daredevil Marvel is knocking off ten dollars from the yearly subscription of Marvel Unlimited, so 60 bucks for the whole thing and now I finally bit the bullet and can say, six months late, that Waid's Daredevil was fantastic 'till the end.

I really want to get into Ultimates (and pretty much everything) when it hits Unlimited, but what related Ewing books should I read first? was it just Mighty Avengers to Captain Falcon & The Mighty Avengers or is there more stuff I should read?

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MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Yeah, promocode SEASON2, if it's showing 100 then you got the yearly unlimited DELUXE that comes with figures and stuff and I don't think the code applies to it.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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SomeJazzyRat posted:

Also, unrelated to Ultimates, but his Loki run started decent but ended in a fantastic reflection and redefinition of the character. It's kinda been an under-the-radar character defining run.

I'm literally reading the Last Days issues right now. :) One of the many runs I was reading at the time that I stopped because I was reading too many comics and figured I might as well just wait to get Marvel Unlimited.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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So, I might as well ask here I guess: up to where should I read Amazing Spider-man? I know Lee's run is good, and apparently Conway as well, Wolfman's solid too? do I keep going 'till the DeFalco run? all I know for sure is that Mackie is where it truly goes stale.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Rhyno posted:

Stop when you see the name "John Byrne."

So all the way to "Final Chapter"? I dunno if I want to go through the whole Clone Saga...

I'll get into the JMS run at some point for sure, I really want to see Peter's life as a teacher and stuff, but for now I want to focus on the original run with literally hundreds of issues before I tap out on Spidey for a bit.

MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Mar 27, 2016

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Mr Hootington posted:

I'll be honest the clone saga is a bit of a mess, but it has some good stuff scattered throughout.

The biggest thing you may find annoying is they so not have the complete Peter Parker, Spetacular Spider-Man run up yet and that ties into Amazing a couple of times.

Eh, I guess that's fair, plus knowing the story behind it will help.

So outside of Mackie/Byrne after it gets rebooted there isn't really anything to avoid in the original run? just read the whole thing 'till it ends and hope that issues of the spin-off titles it connects to are also up?

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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I'm down for more Dillon's Frank Face memes

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Tales from the Unlimited: Invincible Iron Man is pretty fun despite starting with some strong Bendis Speak, enjoyed Doctor Strange. Also, you guys, there's this thing called Nextwave and it's pretty rad.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Doom probably just orders from Pizza Hut while he's rewatching Star Trek.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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I thought I didn't care about this whole thing but I just saw the loving nazi steve stuff being tweeted by NBC News, this is ridiculous. Glad I just don't like Spencer's comics in general.

At least it made this happen as well
https://twitter.com/tlarn/status/735528534698000384

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Codependent Poster posted:

So Cap was evil all along, huh?

Chalk up another win for the Cyclops Was Right camp.

Killing Xavier was the longest con in order to retroactively be proven right.

Also, this month's issue of Spider-man/Deadpool was incredible.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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bobkatt013 posted:

The cosmic cube is bound to be involved and it's known to change people's pasts. The coloring of the flashback might also be showing some fuckery.

To be fair that's basically just an asterisk on top of this mind control arc. The Past is altered but it only affects Steve Rogers, so for all intents and purposes it's his memories what have been altered.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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I find it funny how this will probably be forgotten by next week and nobody will care when Sam punches Red Skull in the Cap & Cap Crossover Issue Omega (six of six) and everything goes back to normal.

lol that Remender caught poo poo over something he did on his Captain Falcon run (his romantic interest was kinda young i think?) and also began with Sam being evil because of magic bullshit from a crossover event

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Tatum Girlparts posted:

Yes, I know that, and that was a really fuckin good issue. The thing is that doesn't actually do what I'm talking about. It doesn't do anything but say 'hey, Red Skull's here all along' which is awesome because that was a cool twist and yea of course Red Skull has a plan. My thing was that you need to show there being some greater plot beyond Steve's allegiance to 'soften' it and give room for doubt that he's an actual nazi stand in. I'm not saying Red Skull needs to show up in some little bubble saying 'hey here's the plan for everything just FYI', I'm saying that yea when the thing is Captain America being a Nazi you do have to handle that with a little more care, and part of that care is to make it look like there's someone pulling some strings that we haven't seen yet.

I don't get how Red Skull showing up and literally saying "I need you alive in the eve of my greatest victory... HERR ROGERS" isn't him hinting at some even bigger conflict than Steve being a Nazi

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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It was interesting enough, but yeah the "someone died" bit was eh.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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NikkolasKing posted:

Thanks everyone. I'll try out MU next week when I have some money.

Or I plan to, anyway. I just want to make sure of something. I can read comics on my Windows Desktop, right? I don't need this App for a smartphone or whatever? Because that would kind of be missing the point that I need a big screen to read these things.(pretty sure Archie only lets you read stuff via a phone app now in terms of digital comics, for instance) On the FAQ it says this new version is only on certain devices and I'm jut not sure what that might mean.

Totally, it has a browser version, even has the whole "panel to panel" sorta zoom or you can just click to see the whole page and then a general zoom. It's pretty great, i'm chipping away through the original Amazing Spider-man run (that tonal shift after Ditko left was so notable wow, but still really good) and reading a bunch of current runs from the All-New All-Different relaunch and it's great, just the latter already make this worth the price of admission.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Oh hey, the cool Negasonic Teenage Warhead, nice.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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gently caress this

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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How old are Miles and Gwen? Still haven't gotten to Miles' new on-going because Unlimited but I always figured he was 15-16 and she was 19-20.

How good is Jeremy Whitley? his writing records appear to be Princeless, two my little pony ongoings and NFL Rushzone

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Toxxupation posted:

And if you want to criticize a relationship for being forced Peter Quill and Kitty Pryde basically started dating for no other reason than sheer proximity due to the trial of Jean Grey. Kitty being Bendis' waifu.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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I always find new #1s to be good because you can refer to someone by going "oh [writer]'s run on [character] is something you'd like, read [character] #1 20XX" last year with ANAD where some titles got a new #1 when they had the exact same title with a new #1 on the same year is the only time that was actually bad.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Dacap posted:

Marvel has released the spoiler everyone guessed for Civil War II #3 Hawkeye kills Bruce Banner

NYDailyNews posted:

"Fans may be outraged, and there are probably ‘Hawkeye’ writers who I'm very good friends with who will also be offended," said Brian Michael Bendis,

hm.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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SilverSupernova posted:

We now have a mainstream Marvel Universe where Doom is a hero and Reed Richards is the villain.

I'm pretty sure that's been the case in every single one of their interpretations, tho

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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There's also a service called Marvel Unlimited, which essentially is a Marvel Netflix, I think you can get a month free to try it and can buy a year subscription for 70 bucks

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/sdcc-lemire-soule-yu-wade-into-war-with-inhumans-vs-x-men

Fire up the conspiracy hats, it's time for the Inhumans to totally kill the X-Men line for the fifth time this year

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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This is the best news ever

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Oh. Well then. At least that's one less person to admire I guess. :smith:

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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I'm willing to put a small bet into Gillen/McKelvie teaming up yet again. That looks exactly like McKelvie's art, Gillen seems to be thinning out his workload and its been long enough since he said he's taking a break from Marvel, plus those two are basically behind all of her characterization.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Has Waid's Avengers sold well? I'm still time-displaced by reading Unlimited but the opening arc wasn't that great and then we're thrown into some crossover, so, would it be possible that it just didn't sell too well afterwards and that the New #1 bump is virtually gone?

All the new all different NOWest relaunches seem to be running the well dry at this point, so I hope this one ends up calming them down and rethink their strategy. Along with that BS with Variants when DC is doing all their effort to appeal to retail.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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I think NOW 2 just doesn't have that "oh poo poo, GALACTUS on a team?!" moment or the curiosity of how it's the universe remade by Franklin with promised changes like Miles moving to 616. Instead it just looks like a bunch of spin-offs of what's already been happening.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Roth posted:

Millar strongly implied Wanda and Pietro being an incestuous couple, and then Loeb not only made it explicit, but also made everybody act like Cap was only against the relationship because of his outdated beliefs. Because incest is totally a thing the modern world accepts.



I'm glad I got into comics just as the UU tried again and again to salvage itself after Ultimatum, I can stare in awe at the bs i dodged. :allears:

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Waffleman_ posted:

WHAT IS GOING ON

Ultimate Universe is modern, you're being too old fashioned!

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Rhyno posted:

I mean, this is the guy who wrote some of the defining teen comics of all time.

The teens defined by those runs are now balding, tho. I love Waid, but Impulse was 20 years ago, dude definitely would have walls to pass to get a teen-only book right.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Schneider Heim posted:

So what are the ideals of the original Hydra? Is it being portrayed as something actually good and not the villainous organization that we've been shown? (I don't want to read the comic)

I'm guessing more extreme socialism and less magical bullshit to build an empire.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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tbf NOW! is a pretty good brand, specially compared to All-New Marvel NOW!, Avengers NOW! and All-New All-Different Marvel. I'm pretty sure i am missing one of these.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Edge & Christian posted:

On the USAvengers first-issue-cover team alone you've got a Brazilian team leader, a woman from Norway, a woman from [whatever fictional nation Tony Stark's origin story took place], and Squirrel Girl has dual Canadian/American citizenship. Also the creative team is from England and Mexico.

It's kind of a strangely marketed book, actually.

I mean, Melting Pot of Culture and all that.


Onmi posted:

Tangentially related, one of the few reasons I'm glad that Renew Your Vows is its own universe is, barring another Secret Wars or Spider-Verse, Marvels endless crossover events will not touch it. The story wont be interrupted 7 issues in because Schlong Johnson has begun to turn everyone in the world into Pasties and Spidey needs to show up for the event even though he wont really do anything.

Agreed. Instead of some kinda "Road To MindWαrs: Society" extra story at the end we'll just get some more Earnest Adventures of Spider-Dad. Just all Spider-family all the time.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Edge & Christian posted:

That was mostly in response to the "Marvel's so-called diversity movement is all Americans anyway" or whatever from the previous page, but I mean, Sunspot and Pod and Toni Ho are (to the best of my knowledge) not American citizens, nor are either of the two main creative team member.

Oh, alright then, yeah.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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So, uh. Civil War II tie-in. Spider-man #9 features Miles fighting FlashVenom. Venom does not appear in the issue at all, and frankly, Miles nearly doesn't either. I know covers lie all the time and stuff, but that's a pretty big lie.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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Roth posted:

How is Venom?

It's dumb and edgy yet I can't stop myself from loving it.

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MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

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JoshTheStampede posted:

Reed and Franklin stayed behind in the nothing to rebuild the multiverse after Secret Wars.

Ben is doing stuff in space and Johnny hangs out with the Inhumans I think? Not sure where Sue is.

Sue and the rest of the FF are also rebuilding the multiverse.

Their final lines were basically "We can have a happy ending, but Benn, Johnny and Dr Doom still have merchandise to sell stories to live"

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