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Rhyno
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That was very likely a request for Doom to be in a particular place for Slott's F4.


Which will be terrible.

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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That's way too much cheese for that steak.

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frodnonnag posted:

You mean not enough steak for that cheese.

Look the steak portion of the meal is clearly complete, it's too late to change your mind because you ordered the 8oz sirloin instead of the 12oz you goddamned pansy just eat two more of those yeast rolls your mother clearly loves.

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site posted:

After reading like 40 issues of sentry books i have come to the conclusion that everyone who thought that that character should have a) been created in the first place, and b) been placed in mainline continuity are loving morons

It never should have gone beyond the original mini series.

Edit: The Sentry and the Hood are where I started to sour on Bendis. He started a habit of cribbing other people's ideas and breaking them.

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Jordan7hm posted:

Age of the Sentry was good too.

It was okay but it doesn't cancel out what a mess the character was everywhere else.

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Mar 22, 2003
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Supposedly Hickman was going to write a Doom ongoing after SW but he was burned the gently caress out so Bendis grabbed him up.

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site posted:

i still dont understand why spencer bothered to make a new quaser just to kill her off immediately

They planned to spin her off as the new Quasar but then somebody in marketing said "but who actually gives a gently caress about Quasar?" and they killed it.

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X-O posted:

Me. I want every kind of cosmic book you can give me.

Yeah but written by Spencer?

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That arc blows. Skip to the next.

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Waffleman_ posted:

I forgot who Jack Kirby was for a second, so I thought you were talking about the Nintendo character.

They're both facets of a greater being.

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Mar 22, 2003
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With every new issue of 2i1 I feel a boundless joy.


And then I remember that Slott is writing F4 and it's like a cosmic monkey is throwing it's poo poo in my face.

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howe_sam posted:

I'd love to see what Al Ewing could do with the keys to the F4.

Another great option. But really, anyone would be better than Slott.



BUT SILVER SURFER WAS REALLY GOOD
:goonsay:

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Mar 22, 2003
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Because of Allred.

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site posted:

silver surfer was great because of the story

I've already watched Doctor Who.

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site posted:

ive never seen dr who so i dont understand what that means or why that makes the story bad

He kind of cribbed a lot of Dawn's life and whatnot from DW. The entire thing was incredibly familiar and tedious to me.

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Yeah, new mutants have been popping up for years.

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Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Do heated claws make a different snik sound?

SNIZZZLKT

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Mar 22, 2003
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The jokes! They write themselves!

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Mar 22, 2003
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Scourge?

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Billzasilver posted:

Holy god, how is thunderstrike still alive?

It's his son, the original is still dead.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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I'm hoping it's some Goku thing where he only gets out of Hel for a few days.

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Mar 22, 2003
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The Destroyer probably had Jake Olsen's soul in it.

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site posted:

Cullen seems to be the mediocre guy marvel jobs out to for the books someone in editorial or sales demands but none of the real writers want to deal with

Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA


Cullen has written plenty of mediocre books for DC as well.

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Mar 22, 2003
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Good job Marvel!

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Dawgstar posted:

I just caught up on Black Widow myself. I could look at Samnee drawing Widow doing her laundry, to say nothing of superspy hijinks.

Since I was on a bit of Waid kick, I also read MU's selection of Champions which didn't go as well.

Best Waid is going to be his Captain America run from 1995, check out Operation Rebirth. His follow up that began in 1996 starts out strong but kind of collapses under itself after the first year.

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Skwirl posted:

Waid's Fantastic Four is better.

Uh huh.

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To be fair, the highs in his F4 are incredibly high.





But the daughter of the Wizard arc is so bad it really drags his run down.

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site posted:

This was so intensely awful i just skipped that whole scene

To be fair, Mark later said he wishes he'd farmed that out to someone with actual lyrical skills.

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Dawgstar posted:

Is that the stuff where Cap's in Japan?

For the first issue yeah. But the next one has him fighting Hydra on a sub and he loses his shield. That rolls into the Capmania arc which becomes the proto Secret Invasion story. I can't remember the next story offhand but it gets a bit shaky after that. By the time Waid leaves the book (over creative differences I can't remember) the overall plot is kind of a mess and all the vibranium on the planet is going to explode because his shield got broken suring Secret Wars in 1984.


Or something.

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site posted:

so i just finished slotts iron man, and besides it being fairly generic and not really that interesting (i know i know shocking) it feels incredibly weird that slott decided to jettison the entire supporting cast besides rhodey

friday got replaced with jocasta, mary jane got replaced by rando red head girl, riri is now rando old guy, mom is gone, and theres no explanation theyre just gone it's like what the hell

It was absolutely terrible BUT Bethany Cabe makes more sense than Mary Jane.

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site posted:

thats true. i guess my thinking on this is that invincible spent the last like 7 months having permutations of that group together building them into coworker, friends, and teammates for the finale where they all come together and embrace as a more or less familial unit and then the next issue opens and we're not even paying lip service to the idea that any of that mattered or that it even happened at all. it just makes the entire thing retroactively feel meaningless imo

Bendis is a better writer than Slott.

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Skwirl posted:

How do people like Adam Hughes afford rent and poo poo when they take so long to actually draw anything? I figure covers pay more than interior, but at what kind of scale?


Lobok posted:

Don't forget commissions. "Mr. Hughes, I'll pay you $200 for an inked drawing of Black Cat chest-bumping Power Girl."

LoL if you think Hughes does a com for that cheap.

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His original pages sell for $2-3000 depending. And that's artwork he also got paid his page rate for so I'm betting an original one off he won't make any other money on would be crazy priced.

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Skwirl posted:

Okay, so he just needs to do 1-2 a month to live comfortably. gently caress doing 22 interior pages at that point.

I'm sure his cover rate is quite high as well so a single cover a month probably pays his bills for the most part.

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Dawgstar posted:

Did Hughes ever do a regular monthly? I can't recall.

He had a brief run on Justice League in 1990 or so. And then maybe the first 6 issues of Ghost in 1995 or 96. I think beyond that he's done 3 issues arcs here and there and mini series. And endless covers.

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Open Marriage Night posted:

I wonder if artists ever do covers for cheaper than normal just to keep their name in the public eye. Like, do commissions dry up if you don’t do any cover work for a couple years?

I too have wondered this. The Moys haven't really done anything noteworthy in 20+ years and seem to subsist entirely off of porn commissions.

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Dawgstar posted:

One did wonder how Joe Mad stayed afloat, although I seem to recall folks did buy rights for various Battle Chaser-y things.

He has/had a job in the video game industry. I know he sold several characters into development that never went anywhere but he's had a few games come out.

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Inkspot posted:

Stinger.

Which was also her MC2 name yes?

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Assistant Editors Months were the greatest things Marvel ever did.

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