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Octatonic posted:what is it with men and being so into this whole peeing standing up thing. why is it such a big deal to you all? you should just sit and relax like normal people. "Sit down and tuck it between your legs," you assure us.
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The Kingfish posted:Literally nothing has been explained itt. To the point where you are willing to understand it, no. That probably is not possible in this case as you are determined not to understand.
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Mar 25, 2016 15:28
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blowfish posted:Things have been said but none that the other side of the argument considers a valid point. Yes, there appears to be an impassable gulf between the bigots and everyone else. Not exactly new.
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Mar 25, 2016 15:36
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The Kingfish posted:I'm not talking about the Great People model though, I'm talking about the thousands of brave, respectable people who were will to step forward as gay and lesbian before such a thing was more broadly accepted. Oh I'm sure that's what you would have called them at the time. Brave and respectable.
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Mar 26, 2016 21:25
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"I don't care about my identity, why should anyone else?" Classic. But if people came up to you and called you the wrong gender, I wonder if that studied indifference would hold up?
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Mar 27, 2016 01:20
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blowfish posted:The oppressed status of a segment of the population does not afford them extra privileges, only protections. Nothing trans people are requesting is "extra."
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Mar 28, 2016 17:14
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blowfish posted:Dealing with strangers you will probably never see again: must look enjoyable with faux-politeness or you're literally a sociopath. Maybe you should go live in a country where people aren't socialised to reflexively project a polite happy image now matter how annoyed or miserable they are like in the UK or America and be terrified of the 95% sociopaths in the population. It's really important for you to be able to let people know you think they are freaks, huh? But I wonder how long you'd last if you went through life with others telling you the same. Not long, I imagine.
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Mar 28, 2016 20:18
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If somebody in real life demands to be called "xir" please get back to us here in the thread. Make sure you measure the single horn coming out of their forehead, as well.
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Mar 28, 2016 20:21
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blowfish posted:Projecting very hard again, I see, so let me clarify. I would certainly let you, in particular know I consider you a freak because you're so annoying I'll take any opportunity to insult you, but that doesn't apply to random people who haven't been annoying pieces of poo poo to me regardless of their self image. You would not, because I am very polite in real life. It's easy to do! For some.
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Mar 28, 2016 20:30
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blowfish posted:Actively forcing yourself to be polite to annoying strangers is actually unhealthy. Stop oppressing me with your fake-friendly privilege. Basic functioning in society without giving offense is not the same as working retail.
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Mar 28, 2016 20:36
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Sulphuric rear end in a top hat posted:I know somone who wanted to be referred to as a snow-leopard. It's not specifically a use of "xir," but You're right, it isn't.
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Mar 28, 2016 20:53
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No.blowfish posted:Pedant, and intentionally missing the point. I ask for a real use of "xir" and somebody comes back with "snow leopard." Not accepting that is pedantry? We're talking about pronouns. But this isn't surprising, because everything that isn't white and straight and male and cis is the same to you. Your enemies. And now you want special rights not to conform to basic expectations of politeness in public. I mean, you already have those rights, but like all reactionaries what you really want is not to be criticized. As usual, reactionary bigots demand the most privileges and accommodations of all.
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Mar 28, 2016 20:58
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Sulphuric rear end in a top hat posted:Is a person believing and feeling that they are not human fundamentally different than a person believing and feeling that they are genderfluid? Yes.
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Mar 28, 2016 21:03
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The Kingfish posted:Why? Why can people not opt out of the human species? Gee I don't know.
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Mar 28, 2016 21:05
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Sulphuric rear end in a top hat posted:Humans do share a a substantial amount of identical DNA with other animals, and also share a common ancestor. If you take that viewpoint, it would be easy to see why a person might identify as species-fluid. You do not sincerely believe this.
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Mar 28, 2016 21:13
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Sulphuric rear end in a top hat posted:Some people do sincerely believe that they are trans-species, however. It's not worth discussing, and it's certainly not worth dragging into a discussion about people with real problems in society, backed up by real clinical research.And it gets brought up every time like it was a legitimate issue, or a connected one. It's a deliberate tactic to make the very concept of being trans look absurd.
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Mar 28, 2016 21:27
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blowfish posted:Anything beyond he,she,they is a special snowflake pronoun until proven otherwise and therefore functionally equivalent, do you not get this. I also don't think what you call basic expectations of politeness in public should exist in the way you imagine, do you not get this. What I get is that everything that is not about your demands for special privileges is boring to you. But then everyone is expected to pay close attention, and accomodate your needs, because you find maintaining basic standards of politeness in public to be intolerable. So your special needs, your special snowflake requests, have the wonderful properties of being both trivial and of being rights you already have but are too bashful to exercise.
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Mar 28, 2016 21:39
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blowfish posted:You should stop exercising your special privilege of completely missing the point and interpreting everything you do not like through the poo poo-stained lenses of your persecution complex-fuelled worldview. I get all your points, I just think they're worthless and bigoted. Would you like to request more special privileges so you never have to know what people think of you?
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Mar 28, 2016 21:43
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blowfish posted:Here you are, missing the point yet again. You should perhaps start by enumerating special rights I have claimed for myself (perhaps start with two so you don't overtax your brain while still technically meeting the threshold of "multiple"), and specifically point out in what way they do not or should not apply to other people. Now you want me to rewrite your own posts so your privileged, inchoate strivings can be parsed! There's no end to the accommodations you request.
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Mar 28, 2016 21:47
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jivjov posted:If you feel that it's so superficial, then what's the harm in accommodating? Because that would be *grits teeth* polite.
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Mar 28, 2016 21:51
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The Kingfish posted:Because it functions to solidify the importance of gender. loving that's what solidifies it? Not the entirety of human history preceding? e: blowfish posted:retards (heh) Your entire contribution in a nutshell.
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Mar 28, 2016 22:06
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I think the whole xe/xir thing is absurd but it's not really my place to weigh in on it.
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Mar 28, 2016 22:46
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blowfish posted:n-words (neo liberals) This gave you a little thrill, didn't it? Now act all innocent about it.
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Mar 28, 2016 22:54
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blowfish posted:no its the GBS word filter which also applies to other subforums. Ah, my bad. Hard to keep up with that stuff.
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Mar 28, 2016 23:05
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There shouldn't even be genders! But in the meantime *looks down to see that somebody has pinned a "GENDER SHERIFF" star on my vest* gently caress!
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Mar 28, 2016 23:15
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The Kingfish posted:Its the "identity" part of their gender identity that isn't valid. The traditional genders are rammed down our throats by culture and society until they are internalized as an essential parts of our personalities. Personal genders are invented by their.. adherents(?) as a form of self-expression. How does this criticism not apply to the concept of being transgender itself?
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Mar 28, 2016 23:26
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The idiotic Trump comparison, like all other idiotic comparisons, has no body of clinical research behind it. You picked an example to deliberately show your willful and ongoing ignorance of trans issues.
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Mar 29, 2016 17:41
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Cingulate posted:What research specifically is behind your position, whatever it may be? You'll never know. I am the seal preventing you from attaining this knowledge. I'm drunk with power now.
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Mar 29, 2016 18:29
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Armani posted:Operation Lollipop This sums it up doesn't it.
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Mar 29, 2016 18:35
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Help me out please, Are you really asking for help? Really. Because if you were I would tell you to drop it and stop acting cute.
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Couldn't it be argued that all identities are fundamentally just role play? Sure! Now stop being your gender.
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