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GoldStandardConure posted:
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Apr 29, 2016 13:14
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GoldStandardConure posted:is it unlawful? 
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Apr 29, 2016 13:17
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LibertyCat posted: I am not kidding when I say I was more moved during the events of the Commander Keen series than I ever was by the works of Beethoven or Leonardo da Vinci.
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Apr 29, 2016 13:18
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I am not kidding when I say I was more moved by Drake's new album than I ever was by the works of Beethoven or Leonardo da Vinci.
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Apr 29, 2016 13:22
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fliptophead posted:LibertyCat posted: Commander Keen was actually propaganda by programmer in favour of decriminilisation
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Apr 29, 2016 13:23
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ABC did a fact check and actually it is illegal so suck it
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Apr 29, 2016 13:29
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Negligent posted:ABC did a fact check and actually it is illegal so suck it 
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Apr 29, 2016 13:33
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Don't link it or anything. News limited did a fact check too and found that Tony Abbott is awesome at everything and turnbull is the bees knees! Suck it! E: Google it chumps!
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Apr 29, 2016 13:35
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=abc+fact+check+illegal
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Apr 29, 2016 13:37
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Jumpingmanjim posted:I am not kidding when I say I was more moved by Drake's new album than I ever was by the works of Beethoven or Leonardo da Vinci. Me too
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Apr 29, 2016 13:39
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Negligent posted:ABC did a fact check and actually it is illegal so suck it quote:That is the case even though these people have not committed any crime, nor broken any Australian or international law. Sorry, you must have only read the headline. It's OK I found the answer for you.
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Apr 29, 2016 13:40
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Apr 29, 2016 13:41
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quote:it is not a criminal offence under the Act to arrive in Australia without a visa. quote:parties to the convention cannot penalise refugees as a result of their "illegal entry or presence" as long as they present to authorities "without delay" and "show good cause for their illegal entry or presence". quote:"By ratifying the Refugee Convention, governments agree precisely not to treat asylum seekers as illegal," Professor McAdam said. quote:Mr Morrison can rely upon the definition of "illegal entry" in the people smuggling protocol, which Australia signed and ratified, so long as he makes it clear that he is doing so. quote:Based on the definition set out in the people smuggling protocol, people who have come to Australia without a valid visa have illegally entered the country. so it isn't actually illegal to be illegal, but if you split the hairs juuuust right negligent and pisscat are still wrong and should gently caress off to cambodia. send some refugees to replace them for preference.
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Apr 29, 2016 13:44
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Assume you are referring to this: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935372 Suggest you read it and pay attention to words beyond Scott Morrison being 'correct' in usage of terminology. Also pay attention to the Cambodian human rights abuse fact check in the same lmgtfy link you posted...
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quote:Malcolm Turnbull Claims Negative Gearing “Widely Used Among The Peasantry” http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/article/2016/04/27/malcolm-turnbull-claims-negative-gearing-widely-used-among-peasantry
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Apr 29, 2016 14:21
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Yeah nah just because you can bend your neck at the precise angle required to have your head up your arse doesn't make it not illegal.
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Yeah nah just because you can bend your neck at the precise angle required to have your head up your arse doesn't make it illegal.
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tbh if push came to shove I could easily see the government backing out of the treaty and selling it as no longer relevant and overly generous, why should we honor it when Indonesia doesn't, and who wants the UN telling us we can't make our own laws anyway.
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thatbastardken posted:so it isn't actually illegal to be illegal, but if you split the hairs juuuust right negligent and pisscat are still wrong and should gently caress off to cambodia. send some refugees to replace them for preference. wow, this seems pretty rude. never thought i'd find an attitude such as this from an auspol regular.
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cum_dumpster posted:wow, this seems pretty rude. never thought i'd find an attitude such as this from an auspol regular. Put 'em up boys it's the  tone police!
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LibertyCat posted:tbh if push came to shove I could easily see the government backing out of the treaty and selling it as no longer relevant and overly generous, why should we honor it when Indonesia doesn't, and who wants the UN telling us we can't make our own laws anyway. Your position here is basically "We should ever do anything good at all because someone else isn't and/or probably won't and why should we be the only ones doing good things?" It was written after the events of the early 1940's where a bunch of people denied refugee status got killed in a little thing called "the holocaust". You might have heard of it. There are similar purges (Though not on quite that scale, or with that level of publicity) going on today in countries like Iraq, Syria, Sri Lanka, and the like. You know, those countries where these refugees are coming from? Even Iran, as allegedly moderate as it is, does some pretty horrific poo poo to its people. This is the kind of thing you get when the west deposes governments they do not agree with in order to put radicals who oppose someone they don't like in power. Or when they bomb the country into rubble in an attempt to make friends.
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There is actually a reasonable argument to be made for ditching the refugee convention and negotiating a new treaty because as you say it was designed to deal with mass displacements in Europe after ww2 and is poorly adapted to current conditions. I think Kevin Rudd was actually cooking up something as part of his bid to become a bigwig at the UN.
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Looks like the mayor of Casey is doubling down on the "we aren't racists" chat, also gotta through in that persecution complex too. Gotta suck being a white dude in a position of authority, right?
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Pickled Tink posted:Your position here is basically "We should ever do anything good at all because someone else isn't and/or probably won't and why should we be the only ones doing good things?" It's a pretty typical Australian attitude at the moment, the whole  no one else helps why should we?
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Apr 29, 2016 21:35
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Recoome posted:It's a pretty typical Australian attitude at the moment, the whole See also: action on climate change.
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Apr 29, 2016 23:09
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Forums user Cum Dumpster takes issue with the tone used by that bastard Ken.
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Apr 29, 2016 23:26
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:See also: action on climate change. It's a pretty common thought process. If you only care about your outcomes and the problem requires multiple parties, your "best"(as in most beneficial to you alone) is for everyone else to contribute equally, and for you to do nothing.
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I can't remamber who it was but a few months ago, someone in the thread said that we should leave it (the UN refugee act) until someone like indonesia signed up, then we could resign up" and I'm just sitting here like "so we should leave until someone else ahead of us is on the hook to do this, then we can re-sign up for PR purpose?" like, if indonesia signed and ratified it, that's the only point that the conservative argument of "oh there's a dozen countries between them and us" comes into effect, because those dozen countries haven't loving ratified the UN act, meaning they're not obligated to provide refuge.
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Recoome posted:It's a pretty typical Australian attitude at the moment, the whole Prisoner's Dilemma is the mortal enemy of the Australian
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Negligent posted:There is actually a reasonable argument to be made for ditching the refugee convention and negotiating a new treaty because as you say it was designed to deal with mass displacements in Europe after ww2 and is poorly adapted to current conditions. I think Kevin Rudd was actually cooking up something as part of his bid to become a bigwig at the UN. What was he going to change?
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he means the cat
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Pickled Tink posted:Australia helped write the treaty. We signed and ratified it. Many countries have not. I wasn't saying those were my reasons for getting rid of it, rather how the government could sell it. quote:Your position here is basically "We should ever do anything good at all because someone else isn't and/or probably won't and why should we be the only ones doing good things?" If we went all out and took in unlimited refugees, when a ton of nearby countries don't, it'd be kind of like a reverse tragedy of the commons. A huge horde would arrive, rapes would go through the roof as happened in Europe, and the bleeding hearts would demand we accept gradual cultural suicide in the same of tolerance. I'd be OK with taking in families with kids under 10, women, gay Muslims, and groups that historically have gone against the "stone adulterers and homosexuals to death" thing. If religious zealots that genuinely support stonings etc find themselves in need of refuge, and end up being sunk by Australian gunships instead, it's preferable to being resettled in Australia (where their children will be the next Man Monis). Toxic cultures should never be allowed in. I'd have no problems take in huge numbers of Canadians or New Zealanders because they aren't backwards violent lunatics and wouldn't change Australia for the worse. - I think Scott Adams has it right quote:Imagine that the tiny nation of Elbonia suffers a Zombie Virus outbreak. Luckily, the virus does not spread easily, but prolonged personal contact with an infected zombie increases the odds of transmission. Once infected, the Elbonian becomes a zombie killer. As it turns out, most people are immune to the virus. Over 99% of the public have no risk of catching it. But 1% is far too many zombie killers. LibertyCat fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Apr 30, 2016 |
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How was Martin Bryant radicalised, LivertysCat?
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Because if you can't stop 100% of crime with a law there is no point trying, right? I'm pretty sure that's the counter-argument used around here.
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Islamic people are the functional equivalent of killer zombies.
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Oh look something shiney! Arsetralian please click it they need the attention. quote:60 Minutes: Nine still at risk of Australian charges THE AUSTRALIAN APRIL 30, 2016 12:00AM Cartoon fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Apr 30, 2016 |
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