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I've spent pretty much all day trying to get my head around how this state tax proposal would work and I can't make it work. No matter how I carve it up, so long as Turnbull's plan is for the ATO to collect everything so as to reduce compliance costs, I can't see it being constitutional for a federal body to collect state taxes. Either the states can't authorise it (the autocthonous expedient invests state with federal, not vice versa), or there could be a preference between states which the ATO couldn't be shanghaied into enforcing. The alternative is for each state to pass assessing acts with collection by their state revenue authorities, but even if the acts are identical to what exists now I can't see people swallowing two separate returns each year given the trouble they have with filling in one.
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Gorbash posted:A page late, but it's probably constitutional because it used to be that way, and was abandoned because it was a Stupid Idea and we used to be smarter. My understanding is that the states had a collection role and that states had assessing acts which are no longer in force. Turnbull's proposal is for the states to get their cut without doing any administration. It's that part which I don't think works. Constitutionally we can cross-vest powers to an extent and the Cth can invest state bodies with federal jurisdiction, but the states can't invest federal bodies with state jurisdiction. The alternative I thought of would be for the ATO to collect a state based levy akin to the Medicare levy, but if these are at different rates maybe s99 of the Constitution prevents it, and the problem with collection of state taxes may still be there.
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ITT PissCat looks at a triangle and says it has the wrong syntax also don't touch the poop
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deffo sure the average indigenous person in... ever was smarter than pisscat is in twenty six teen
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:The Anschluss? Nah they were invited  
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Anidav posted:I thought they had east africa? 
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Frogmanv2 posted:Ok, what other factors should a civilisation be judged by? Uptake of GridTM technology
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folks it's a troll
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Egypt had no writing, any four year old could put up poo poo drawings of birds everywhere
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Weren't a bunch of you supposed o be meeting the minerals minister or something, you can ask him what his commission is
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oh no wont somebody please care about pisscat's feelings
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*develops sharing economy *isn't a civilisation* *is pisscat*
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homer wasn't civilised because he didn't write
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Endman posted:Monk, I need a monk! WOLOLOOOO
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Bifauxnen posted:Froglet's jobhunt anecdotes from the other thread would be pretty instructive here, I imagine. ixnay on the otheray eadthray
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If only men learned how to negotiate better prices for themselves
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I'm being glib but it makes the people behind the Free Enterprise Foundation and donation funnelling look like complete novices (probably because they are).
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GoldStandardConure posted:Maybe if they taught men how to negotiate better, they could get a better price for their cupcake. ummm Birdstrike posted:If only men learned how to negotiate better prices for themselves
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Sludge Tank posted:http://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/jordies-on-spec#.ccRbbbzzL yeah gently caress the unions
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FRIENDLY JORDIES OUSTED AS A LEFTY SCAM!
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Anidav posted:Someone buy these kids a forums account so we can warn them Just donate them one of your alts
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LibertyCat posted:I also enjoy First Dog. 
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Mithranderp posted:lmao if you think videogames are art 
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Counterpoint: stop subsidising anything that isn't art.
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you skilfully craft the medium of poo poo in the form of posts would fund
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aw sweet gonna buy so many pingerz
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Anidav posted:The problem is voters don't talk to eachother much so they can easily punish Turnbull TOO MUCH. No, they can't.
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congratulations you won the election to be a clown
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Urcher posted:Highlights from last month's thread: I'm not entirely sure you understand what 'highlights' are, friendo.
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make pre-1815 gun types widely legal; ban the others
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when the founders wrote about a right to bear arms they meant Brown Besses go nuts with those we'll take everything else tia
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Tokamak posted:I imagine their position is contingent on whether it lowers their power bill or not. They would likely support waste generated power using the bodies of newstart recipients if it would cut $10 off their quarterly bill. We should look into this.
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tithin posted:OTOH, look at the Scottish Referendum - the second the polls hit 50/50, the tories were north of the border as fast as you can blink. scots are idiots though
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I paid off my household debts with currency I printed myself household surplus, bitches
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Birdstrike posted:I paid off my household debts with bitcoins good value odds crypto currencies get a mention in the budget
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ScreamingLlama posted:Just popping into this thread to tell you I have been connected to the Turnbull!NBN through Optus for the princely sum of $95 per month (includes home phone, IPad-sized modem and three months of Stan). I may not be 1%, but according to tech pundits I'm part of the 18% (who can get fibre-to-the-node). Okay, and?
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first dog is better art than anime I guess
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Bifauxnen posted:All this talk about webpages getting formatted for mobile, while first dog remains nigh unreadable on any phone or computer, or paper just unreadable
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Lid posted:Young Libs... Young Libs never changes... Somewhere along the line this dickhead did change, I had some dealings with him as an undergrad and he was an officious prick but never rabidly anti-gay (or even obviously right wing for that matter) getttttt dunked on
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