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First for Australia is bad e: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2016/03/30/melbourne-attack-muslim-girls-disturbing-and-brazen-islamophia-register quote:Melbourne attack on Muslim girls 'disturbing and brazen': Islamophia Register Read the rest of the story on SBS, you fucks Recoome fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Mar 30, 2016 |
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If you don't think it was an invasion, I've got news for you son. Australia was formed down the barrel of a gun
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Mar 31, 2016 00:22
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The whole debate against calling it an invasion boils down to some pretty exquisite 18th/19th century ethnocentrism, where we didn't consider that "Australia" was legitimately occupied because the people who lived here didn't conform to European ideas of sovereignty and nationhood. It's also pretty clear that a large proportion of Australians still possess this ethnocentrism so it's actually quite delicious that you have the ignorant people speaking out against it, because it highlights exactly the problem we are having.
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Mar 31, 2016 00:31
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LibertyCat posted:They can demand sovereignty, insist that they never signed a treaty, and that the Australia Government has no claim - but if you can't pass your own laws , collect your own taxes and boot out everyone who isn't a "citizen" you're obviously not a Sovereign Nation. Recognizing the "Continuing Sovereignty of First Nations" (as NIRS announces each day) is ignoring reality. Actual sovereignty is a pipe dream. You are a racist piece of poo poo
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Mar 31, 2016 23:34
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LibertyCat posted:I don't recall anyone finding aboriginal written texts dating prior to European settlement, have you got a link? what is traditional rock art et al. quote:That doesn't make it invalid. These people were savages, and we gave them ~culture~ quote:It wasn't purely a numbers game and you know it. Europeans had massively advanced militaries (in comparison) and had greater numbers due to agriculture, cities, and the other hallmarks of civilization. ????
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Apr 1, 2016 01:14
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bowmore posted:Nah they are closed unless you get here on a legit visa and then apply for refugee status, your hosed otherwise as far as I can tell yeah so basically ' starkebn posted:The answer is the borders are closed unless you're coming from white countries.
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Apr 1, 2016 04:50
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The problem is the fact that a bunch of white people have a literal freak out anyone suggests that white people may have committed genocide against black people in the not-too-distant past and this creates some amazing cognitive dissonance.
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Apr 1, 2016 08:15
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freebooter posted:All these, I'd also throw in democracy, gender equality, opportunities for individuals to try different kinds of lifestyles, technological progress, and probably some other stuff I'll think of later. Yeah but we get stuck at the "acknowledging the invasion" part
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Apr 1, 2016 09:30
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Serrath posted:I'm confused that people can refer to Muslim immigration as an invasion and then those same people can protest universities that describe the first fleet as an invasion No but you see it's different because we are white
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Apr 1, 2016 22:25
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LibertyCat posted:Rock art is not having literacy. If it were then every toddler who fingerpaints qualifies. So you are saying that the Indigenous rock art is equivalent to toddler finger-painting?
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Apr 1, 2016 22:29
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There was a really good rally and march for Safe Schools in Brisbane today. It was hot as gently caress but yeah it was great
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Apr 2, 2016 12:36
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It started with a single highly negative experience in high school, which I've mentioned elsewhere. But that alone didn't put me off. I am very observant of what happens in the world, and unfortunately I'm the kind of person who lets it get to me, however hard I try not to. I hate hypocrisy, I hate injustice. Four decades of demonisation, affirmative action and systemic misandry so filled me with resentment and rage that I cannot feel love. I must clarify here that I don't hate women, I hate feminism, and I emphasise constantly that the two are not the same thing. To me the women I meet fall into two categories: allies, and enemies. If a woman supports feminism she's an enemy, a threat, and I will avoid any contact with her, more out of fear - fear of being accused of something - than hate. It is that fear that negates my ability to love. People think that hate is the opposite of love, but it is not. Fear is the opposite of love. Love is a force of attraction; it draws you to another. But hate is also a force of attraction; it draws you towards that which you hate so you can fight it. But fear is a force of repulsion; you run away from what you fear. And I dared not ever approach a woman out of fear I might be called a creep or a pervert or charged with sexual harassment or something. But if a woman supports the MHRM or true equality, someone like Karen Straughan or Jasmin Newman, then I see her not as a potential sex partner but as a potent political ally, a fellow warrior fighting against the injustices being perpetrated by the feminist system. My emotions towards such women run more to the respect and admiration spectrum, what one feels towards a comrade-in-arms, than love or sexual desire. I posted in another thread a passage from Orwell's Ninteen Eighty-Four that relates to that. I have felt the hormonal draw to attractive women. But for me it is a purely visual attraction, a desire to look, even to touch just for the tactile sensation, but nothing more. I'm a CGI artist and much of my work involves depicting pretty women. But if I try to imagine what it would be like to have actual sex with her, I feel only revulsion and shame. The emotion is very similar to what I feel if I look at a man and try to imagine having sex with him, its an instant turn-off. So, to heterosexual people, I say, this is what it is to be asexual; what you feel about sex with someone of your own gender - that's what I feel about sex with anyone. So for me, with the notion of love and sex so heavily polluted with politics, that for me it has no deep emotional meaning other than waging a war that will last the rest of my life - it was inevitable that I should go MGTOW. I could never really have done anything else.
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Apr 2, 2016 14:45
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LibertyCat posted:I hope you choke on a turd. Wishing harm upon others now, are we?
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Apr 2, 2016 22:03
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SeekOtherCandidate posted:QLD Labor just approved the Adani coal mine in the Galilee basin. Well the QLD Govt should definitely fund the Safe Schools program now. Seeing as we are hatefucking the environment now
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Apr 3, 2016 06:37
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LibertyCat posted:I was going to ignore the issue because it's not something I particularly care about, but my name was mentioned. Since I could say the sky is blue and get dogpiled over it I didn't want to get drawn into a debate over a minor issue. lol okay LibertyCat posted:If you really care I'm all for equal opportunity but am against quotas. How can we quantify if we are achieving equality if we aren't somehow measuring gender representation? LibertyCat posted:It seems like some feminists see a lot of men at the Top, but they don't look down and see a lot of men at the Bottom. If "Feminism" is a catch-all term for removing toxic gender roles for both sexes, it should change its name, but this is hardly an Australian-specific political issue. And yet a whole bunch of MRA's (e.g. you) wilfully ignore the fact that by screaming about  But what about men??? you are actually marginalising disadvantaged groups by shifting the focus away from them and onto yourself.
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Apr 3, 2016 06:45
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Lol if you think forums poster Liberty "Black people and women are both inferior AND oppressors" Cat is actually flustering anyone with his/her/their terrible opinions.
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Apr 3, 2016 07:47
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Solemn Sloth posted:
Fash = Smashed
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Apr 3, 2016 12:28
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I don't condone violence but loving hell there's some amazing irony that a group of people turn on full victim mode when they've spent the last X months calling the left-wing dudes a bunch of pussies.
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Apr 3, 2016 12:33
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You catch more flies with honey, but you catch more honey's if you're fly
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Apr 3, 2016 12:48
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Anidav posted:
Yeah but there's still kids in Nauru, this is pretty misleading
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Apr 3, 2016 13:13
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LibertyCat posted:My understanding is the bulk of female "computers" were doing mathematical grunt work, and were not designing algorithms like higher skilled programmers today We are literally at the  stage
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Apr 3, 2016 13:53
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thatbastardken posted:Any y'all nerds coming to the protest this morning? As a certified Leaner, I actually have class, sorry.
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Apr 3, 2016 23:01
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Here's a video from the same dudes where were crying about a guy getting punched yesterday https://www.facebook.com/partyforfreedom.aust/videos/546230752213634/
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Apr 4, 2016 06:43
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Brick Dust Otis posted:The status quo is very bad, except for me, a white man, therefor the status quo is good, and cool ~boot straps~
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Apr 5, 2016 08:59
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BCR is cool and good
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Apr 5, 2016 13:02
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EvilElmo posted:Blah blah. Greens policy best policy. What is the Labor Party's stance on Safe Schools?
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Apr 6, 2016 11:49
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EvilElmo posted:Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. Thats funny because the QLD ALP government has not pledged to continue to fund it beyond 2017, despite approving the actual destruction of our reef. So like does the ALP actually support Safe Schools as a matter of principle, or to appear "progressive" but don't actually have the cojones to put their money where their mouth is.
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Apr 6, 2016 13:00
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EvilElmo posted:Next time, say "what is QLD ALP's position on x" and I can respond with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR_X6PrASho&t=50s. Nah dude they haven't responded about it yet, but seeing as they've had ample opportunity by now to make ~any~ kind of comment I think they are waiting for the whole thing to blow over. We actually had a Federal Labor MP give a spiel about his experience being gay and how Federal Labor supports Safe Schools but then ran away as the tough "Well how about the QLD Govt?" question, which is fair enough he's not a state politician but it's pretty great none the less. I mean at least you know where the Greens and the LNP stand on this issue, whereas the ALP are in the weird limbo zone where they are destroying the environment whilst still causing uncertaintly for LGBTIQ kids.
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Apr 6, 2016 13:28
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I thought ALP were progressive but here we are
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Apr 6, 2016 13:44
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gay picnic defence posted:Industries that have collapsed under LNP rule: Research and Development
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Apr 7, 2016 11:24
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LibertyCat posted:Yes clearly the lifesaving procedure known as blood donation (which has negligible downsides for the donator) is comparable to Nazi vivisection, deliberate infection with disease, limb amputations, mass murder of patients and other atrocities, you lunatic. Your idea is a breach of ethics, so it actually won't happen.
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Apr 7, 2016 12:31
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LibertyCat posted:Why is it ethically unsound? You literally have no idea what constitutes informed consent.
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Apr 7, 2016 12:55
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No you see it's voluntary to donate blood, but in order to get welfare you have to donate blood. See how this is a problem?
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Apr 7, 2016 13:03
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open24hours posted:I don't remember anyone complaining about 'ethics' when people suggested vaccinating your kids should be mandatory. You are right, vaccinating children is the same as forcing people to donate blood in order to access social welfare.
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Apr 7, 2016 13:15
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Well, I'm not doctor, but we vaccinate kids because the diseases they can catch can be absolutely harmful to their developmental trajectory, and this is also why mothers should be vaccinated for rubella. I guess on the other hand, both blood and organ donation is just that: donating a part or component of yourself. It's more difficult to argue when you remove the "blood donation is tied to welfare" thing, but people have the right to not donate blood/organs if they don't want to. People should be able to refuse medical treatment, it just really sucks when people refuse to vaccinate their kids because because it can not only potentially harm their own children, but people who can't take a full course of a vaccine.
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Apr 7, 2016 13:40
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Yeah look honestly it's a pretty amazing idea, interesting insight into a potentially Mad Max style future where we all have out own personal poors strapped to our cars/houses.
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Apr 7, 2016 13:47
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Yeah there is no difference between a vaccination and donating blood or an organ.
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Apr 7, 2016 13:53
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Anidav posted:The Brisbane mother at the centre of a botched child recovery in Lebanon that led to the detention of a 60 Minutes reporter and crew, has been arrested and her children handed over to her husband. Wow
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Apr 8, 2016 08:32
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Has LibertyCat posted in a while? He dropped off the radar after the ethics thing 
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Apr 9, 2016 07:58
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Anidav posted:Four people have been evicted from the Western derby AFL match in Perth after displaying an anti-Muslim banner during Saturday night's game at Subiaco Oval. Muh free speech
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