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So let's assume for a moment that the election from here on plays out with Hillary being indicted by the FBI before the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia. The polls aren't radically off, there's no October surprise, no major terrorism incident, no dramatic economic collapse. Trump gets no traction outside his base and whites don't turn out in significantly larger numbers than last time. The Democratic base shows up on election day and finally elects a real Social Democrat into Office, Bernard 'Bernie' Sanders. What do the next four years look like? I'm less interested in Bernard's specific policies, which I think we can reliably assume will be some mix of progressivism plus a lot of congressional gridlock and theatrics. I'm more interested in what happens to all the angry restive Shillaries and Trumpstaffel. The establishment faced a huge challenge this year, and was defeated by a Sanders campaign and an FBI investigation, but the Republican party would still be destroyed and have serious popular support for repealing NAFTA and other trade pacts. For the DNC, they would have lost due to a challenger from the Left; where do the washington-consensus factions from both parties go? This is your thread to speculate wildly about just how much more insane the pressure cooker of American politics gets if both Trump and Hillary are shut out of power. Everyone's pissed, the economy is probably gonna fall off a cliff again, and Birdie Sanders is in the White House. What kind of bizare domestic political fallout can you imagine? Put another way, if Trump doesn't win, then what lasting impact might he and Hillary leave on the system, if any? Does the Establishment switch up its playbook, do either of the parties try to tap this new found energy, do new political movements appear on the scene? A few years ago do we look back on this election as a turning point, or just a really weird and brief interruption to our regularly scheduled programming? This thread is to somewhat discuss if we're all mentally prepared to allow Sanders to be president and what the gently caress that actually means for america
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It looks like a world where Donald Trump just got elected President
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Mar 30, 2016 18:45
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probably less war
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Mar 30, 2016 19:18
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Israeli right-wing declares secular jew as not a jew.
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Mar 30, 2016 19:26
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If my Facebook feed is correct, a promotional Fallout 3 poster.
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Mar 30, 2016 19:28
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I think the most likely policy proposal to be passed is the $1 trillion indastrucuture bill. I can see republicans getting behind it to provide money for their districts. You would also likely see criminal justice reform. You'd likely see extensive investigations into wall street. The big banks would be broken up through Dodd Frank and overall the CJ system would move away from settlements for white call crime. I think there would be a grass roots effort to push for free college and single payer with Sanders using the bully pulpit. TPP would be dead if it wasn't passed during the lameduck session.
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Mar 30, 2016 19:29
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Many of trumps populist supporters pivot to Bernie. The majority of the Dem voters fall in line, but the DNC establishment which has been packed with Hillary's Cronies piss away the next 4 years trying to undermine any sort of progress. They basically become the Democratic Tea Party and in some unimportant way they are different from the republican's I guess. Then they are all executed via guillotine.
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NNick posted:I think the most likely policy proposal to be passed is the $1 trillion indastrucuture bill. I can see republicans getting behind it to provide money for their districts. You would also likely see criminal justice reform. Bernie wouldn't abandon his grassroots revolution and would continue to support downticket races, leading to a Democratic majoring Senate and House.
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Mar 30, 2016 19:35
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Grognan posted:Israeli right-wing declares secular jew as not a jew. I've been to Israel and I can tell you there is tons and tons of precedent for them to not do this ever -- one of the country's founding principles was "the Nazis didn't care if you were observant, so neither do we" but they might anyway if Netanyahu decides it's expedient and tells everyone to
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Mar 30, 2016 20:31
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Powercrazy posted:all executed via guillotine.
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Mar 30, 2016 20:34
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it'd look like every lovely element of american politics getting exactly what they deserve, op. bern it down
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loquacius posted:I've been to Israel and I can tell you there is tons and tons of precedent for them to not do this ever -- one of the country's founding principles was "the Nazis didn't care if you were observant, so neither do we" Israel you see as a tourist isn't the real Israel 
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Not much would get done, since he's not putting any effort into down ticket races. Because of that, he'll have either the same amount or more GOP reps in the House and possibly more GOP senators, which will make all of his policies stall. Political revolution my rear end.
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:Israel you see as a tourist isn't the real Israel Israel was founded by socialists seriously, there are any number of bad things to say about Israel but "not accepting of secular Jews" is just so ridiculously not one of them
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Mar 30, 2016 20:48
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loquacius posted:Israel was founded by socialists national socialists if you would
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Mar 30, 2016 20:50
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Weed legal, white collar crimes enforced, Dodd Frank stretched to the max. Honestly it'll take him at least two years just to revamp the executive branch.
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Mar 30, 2016 20:52
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BceHGzsDVLY
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The terminator gif
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the president does not matter. the supreme court and congress matter. they are the ones that hold the real power. this is red vs blue, and the members of team red and team blue are not as different as you'd think.
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Mar 30, 2016 21:06
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Hillary Clinton put in stocks at Trinity Church With baskets of rotten tomatoes in front of her labeled "Speaking Fees."
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*Bernard Sanders walks up to a microphone and leans in until his lips are almost touching it* Bernie: "Free college" *60,000 square miles of previously clear-cut rainforest spring up like hands reaching for the sky*
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Mar 30, 2016 21:33
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Same as Clinton or Trump: 
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*The gathered masses stand agape, surrounded by verdant lush* Bernie: "Legal weed" *A tremendous gasp seems to come from the Earth itself as 1500 gigatons of atmospheric carbon crystallize into a sparkling diamond city*
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Ork of Fiction posted:*The gathered masses stand agape, surrounded by verdant lush*
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*Everyone is cheering now, scattering themselves in play among the crystal staircases of the forest-city as Bernie intones the final words* Bernie: "Universal health care" *Springs and fountains unfold like blossoms, spilling fresh water into streams, rivers and lakes. Fish appear and multiply. Birds alight on branches. Bees happily float on gossamer wing from flower to hive. All around, people seem to change in their pace and manner, as if stepping out of an old skin, revealing their true, perfect selves. A Buddha smile stretches across the whole of creation.*
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Mar 30, 2016 22:07
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It'll be pretty great until the bourgeois reaction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=garqIzNZvz8
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http://i.imgur.com/hi9HbCr.gifv
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I'm pretty sure this happens in the first month of it. Oh and at some point during his reign The Magical Realm of Tir na Nog - Escape From Necron 7: Revenge of Cuchulainn - The Official Game of the Movie: Chapter 2 of the Hoopz Barkley SaGa gets released.
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BERNED DOWN
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Mar 31, 2016 03:49
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cool and good
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Mar 31, 2016 03:58
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Single-payer healthcare by executive order. I wish.
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Bales of weed, like, everywhere.
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The law of unintended consequences is made bare and on a national scale, as the dark side of his previously pipe dream policies becomes known. The mad race to get a liberal arts degree by young people reaches a fevered pitch as college applications increase tenfold. Only the lucky ones get the free state tuition in one of the limited spots. Trades become even more unfashionable, although thanks to the open borders, illegal central americans are more than happy to become the plumbers and carpenters. Remittances increase tenfold. Everyone has access to healthcare but wait times have increased from days to months, and doctors, no longer fearful of malpractice due to new regulations, lower the quality and thoroughness of their care. Patients have no recourse. Private hospitals close by the hundreds after failing to reach adequate deals with the federal government health care system. Somethin somethin foreign policy. Wait, Bernie has a foreign policy? Who knew. Anyway the vaunted "coalition" of terror fighting middle eastern countries never materializes as it becomes clear that they all have wildly different goals and aims. As the US shrinks from a leadership role in the middle east, chaos continues to reign and each regional power pursues their interests with less caution. And after that there's always more and it's always worse. Feel the bern
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